Montreal..........NOT

[diceycat]

This was another thought I had. Looking closer at the Japanese clues is BP giving you deeper clues in the hints.?
When he says People in Japan think of their motorcycles as an Iron horse.
So you have “ Iron Horse”, and Joan of Arc is wearing her armour (iron) and riding a horse.

[alice]

Bonjour à vous! j'ai regardé vos discussions et c'est très intéressant. Je suis nouvelle donc pas trop au courant de toutes les cachettes, versets etc etc, mais comme je peux voir Montréal n'est pas définitivement le bon emplacement et hi hi j'en suis ravie parce que moi aussi je pense que le casque se trouve à Québec verset voie, ruelle si vous êtes déjà passé à la Citadelle de Québec il y a effectivement une ruelle ou route d'accès pour une auto de passage donc très étroit . verset 222 le Royal vingt deuxième régiment vous verrez un arc de lumière pour entrer à la Citadelle il y a une grande espace qui oui est illuminée le soir mais avec deux gardiens de chaque coté de la porte hi hi . sous le seul membre permanent= le Lieutenant Gouverneur cette personne représente la Reine d'Angleterre J'aurais bien aimé mettre des images mais bon je cherche la façon de faire hé! continuez votre beau travail et recherches c'est bien excitant bonne soirée

[choice]

C'est bon de vous avoir avec nous. Bienvenue dans la jungle! Puisque vous semblez connaître le quartier, connaissez-vous une connexion néerlandaise dans ce domaine ? Ce puzzle est censé être un puzzle d'immigration néerlandais.

[wbgrimesii]

Please translate

[diceycat]

Try Google translate. Copy and paste.

[diceycat]

Another interesting bit for Quebec City , maybe?
JJP did over a hundred book covers. Maybe some pertain to the Secret.

[diceycat]

Let’s visit the Japanese clues a bit closer.
I think BP is revealing a lot more when it comes to these clues.

In the Japanese translation we read that it mentions a small street or a narrow path as a possible lane. No where does he say it’s not a small street or narrow path. He only says ,this “Lane” is a proper noun. What he is saying is that the lane itself is a proper noun not the word “Lane” . If the word lane was the proper noun then the sentence would drop the word “this” and just state that the word lane is a proper noun.
Cote de la Citadelle would be that lane where it comes off of Rue Saint-Louis.

In the next line he is asking himself what could this be , a mountain, a river , a city… or? These are all clues.
Those three choices are telling me to look for a mountain, a city , a river. All three tie into the location
Now Montreal fits nicely with those three hints. ( St. Lawrence river, Mount Royal, and the city Montreal)
I still believe Quebec City also fits with this theory . You have the city , the St.Lawrence river and Montmorency falls being the mountain in name / Quebec City itself on the nappe of the Appalachian Mountains .
By definition a mountain is just a land mass that projects conspicuously above its surroundings and is higher than a hill or it could also be an elongated ridge.

Let’s look at those hands in the painting “clasping” together fingers forming a saintly cross and pointing between the two steps. Is there another possible clue here? The French word “Tache” could mean a blemish or stain but in the English Webster’s dictionary it could also mean clasp as in clasping hands. The road “ Av. Tache “ can be found on the southern boarder of the Joan of Arc gardens in Quebec City.

[choice]

If you choose to ignore the "legeater" then you either need to find another one in Q City or explain the legeater in the painting in a golden square.
The next best thing may be in Toronto!

[diceycat]

I’m not ignoring the legeater at all. I just think that it’s a representation of the Joan of Arc monument. The Wolf head ( General Wolfe) on the horses leg , that leg extends out of the square like the way the front hoof of the horse on the Joan of Arc monument extends above the garden or you could say the horse left rear leg is a close match .Could that be a wingless bird ascending? Think Boston pops and how obscure that was for a clue . You can’t ignore the person on the horse with a sword in the background of the painting. That horses mane in the painting is an exact match for the horses mane in the illustration that JJP did titled, “Hidden Warrior “.

Now I’m not saying it couldn’t be a representation of the base of the light stand by the mount Stephen club. It may, but how does that image from the painting fit in the verse? Like fence and fixture or seek the columns etc.
What line in the verse points to the legeater? Why would they use the legeater as a clue to the city. It’s not the only standing member in the forest ( there are 2 of them). That is unlike any other clue that was used for the other puzzles like a tall building/ structure as a city / park clue . Can we be 100% sure that there was never a legeater in Quebec City?
Lastly , on the reply from BP about St. Louis being correct but not the location. Was that not in response to the solve for verse 5 image 9. So where is your St. Louis in Montreal? and it has to be by or seen from or very close to the park. Usually when a street is referenced it boarders or is in the park.
I doubt it would be in Toronto. If anything it could be in Ottawa or John A. MacDonalds birth place ( Kingston). Too many things point to Quebec for it not to be there.

There is a May 1980 National Geographic article on the St.Lawrence river and cities along it that might be interesting to read.

[choice]

Oct 23, 2022 21:30:48 GMT -5 diceycat said:

but how does that image from the painting fit in the verse? Like fence and fixture or seek the columns etc.

The 222 could be the city indicator.  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_222s
A wingless bird ascended could be the "feel at home" phrase.
Lets suppose Mount Stephen is the location. How would BP turn that to a cryptic phrase? Mount part is easy. Just look up a synonym like ascend.
How about the Stephen part? Perhaps a famous Stephen that even American kids know? Stephen Hawking was/is famous. Hawking could explain the bird and wingless could describe the man or his disability.
The next line could confirm this since hawks are expert gliders.

[diceycat]

I never even heard of this punk band 222 . That punk band has nothing to do with the park or dig site . To use this punk band as a reference for Montreal would be beyond bacon. Remember no internet back then.

The Japanese hints are telling you that this wingless bird can be easily spotted in Japan . Read the definitions of a bird ( girl). When was the last time you easily spotted a Hawk and it ties somehow with an iron horse? Those Japanese hints are telling you “Iron Horse”. Joan of Arc is on her iron horse or Joan is wearing her iron armour while on her iron horse. Keep it simple.

Why take the Fleur de lis out of the painting ? Was this BPs idea and not JJPs? The fleur de lis on the horse harness , it’s on the monument stone , it’s the symbol for Quebec. Did BP think that was making the casque too easy to find? Why obscure the so called number 4 in the hair when the numbers were not that obscure in the other paintings? Or is that indiscernible number 4 just a red herring and we are to only focus on the 73 for Hwy 73.

Stephen Hawking has zero to do with the casque, dig site or park or city.
He only became famous after writing his book “ A Brief History in Time” published in 1988.

Each and every line in the verse has something to do with something in the park or can be seen from the park( dig site).
Again it’s all theory and if someone can show me a more simple logical explanation for the dig site then I’m all ears/ eyes.

You also have to use those clues that people walk there dogs there, lots of leaves to hide under and there is the park police close by . Get permission to dig.

If you still think it’s buried by the mount Stephen club then you have a close to zero chance of recovery with all the construction that went on there.

[choice]

Hawking was famous since 1974. In fact he wrote a book about time/space in 1973.
In 1979 he published General Relativity: an Einstein Centenary Survey to honour Einstein's hundredth birthday.
Picture of Einstein on cover of Variety Magazine is staged on the magazine stand picture in the Secret book.
"This wingless bird can be easily spotted in Japan." Since Japan is pretty much homogenous, he would be easily spotted.
Dissecting the legeater to it's components and then try to shoehorn a solve around it is like taking the fence picture in image 5 apart to an arch and posts and blocks and then come up with a solve in a different location.
Who knows, you can interpret wingless bird differently. Maybe it refers to "crow-stepped gable" which is very Dutch.
I seriously doubt he would've used bird, broad, chick, B-word to describe a girl!

[diceycat]

Bird was a fairly common term used back then when referring to a young girl , never a guy. It was hip terminology like far out, groovy , can you dig it, etc. You would have to have lived through that era to understand the slang and how common it was to use it.
I doubt that the jewel in the cap ( French beret),is an opal. I could show you a turquoise that looks close to that. Then again anyones guess.

Why not dissect the legeater. What was the definitive clue for Boston but a home plate (something that could be found in thousands of different cities and towns), stuck on a sleeve with a black foot / leg close by. Why not have a wolf head stuck on a horses leg. The final dig spot clue for the casque is tied to the negative space made by the fingers crossing which represents the exact shape of the flag stones( white stone closest), by the west steps.This would be your fence/ home plate/ columns analogy.
Now let’s see the line “12 paces, ( 30 feet approximately) from the west side “ , of the legeater would put you on the sidewalk of Drummond St. Bring out the Jackhammer.

Stephen Hawking is hardly a bird. I doubt anyone would call him a bird. His last name probably comes from the medieval time when Hawking bells were made for the gentry who would attach these small bells to the legs of their birds of prey.
I never heard of Stephen Hawking until his book “ a brief history in time “ came out. He was not a household name in 1980. No High school talked about him in 1980.
You have to stick with what was taught in school or what was the big event of the day ( JFK was in the news for years and years after his assassination), or what you could find in the dictionary/ encyclopedia/ geography text/ history text / English course or a park that one frequented. BP has told you already to look in a large dictionary/ book of quotes etc.
Stephen Hawking would only be easily spotted if he was standing in front of you. I doubt anyone on this forum has personally seen him . To take his first name and ascribe it to the bldg. is , well too much bacon for me. Keep it Simple.
I’ll give you another translation to the Japanese text below.
As you can see the translation is different. I doubt he would call Stephen Hawking a thing where as one might call a girl in general a thing.

Lets go back to the first Japanese translation that I posted . He likens the wingless bird to “ a bird without a wing “. Here he says “a wing” not wings ( plural). There is a saying “ on a wing and a prayer “ which means little chance of success . This term was used in WW2 for pilots in battle with little chance of success. Like Joan of Arc on her battle horse having little chance of success.

[choice]

Boston wasn't just the homeplate and the shadow foot pointer.
Next to JJP's initials is a reflective table that could represent water that is reflecting the bird's perch that looks like an old 'polo' stick.
Also layout of Langone Park with 3 ball fields is in her apron.

[canuck]

“You also have to use those clues that people walk there dogs there, lots of leaves to hide under and there is the park police close by .”

This was never tied to a specific city, this is an assumption of yours, not a fact!
Did Byron say this? Yes
Did Byron say this was a specific city? No, he just mentioned this experience in one of the 12 cities.

What is your Dutch connection to Quebec City again?