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Post by astree on Jun 8, 2020 8:32:26 GMT -5
Thank you, Poe. I sent you a message.
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Post by thisjustin on Jun 15, 2020 16:02:09 GMT -5
The temporary park closure got me thinking ...
Pel has said that the key can be found year round, 24/7. If that's the case doesn't that mean, by definition, the key cannot be located in the park since the park is always closed for part of the year?
Similarly, I know some have speculated the key may be located on Bar Island, but it is specifically stated that the key is somewhere on MDI - is Bar Island part of MDI or is it considered a separate island?
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Post by astree on Jun 16, 2020 7:46:04 GMT -5
The temporary park closure got me thinking ... Pel has said that the key can be found year round, 24/7. If that's the case doesn't that mean, by definition, the key cannot be located in the park since the park is always closed for part of the year? Before corona virus, was the entire park closed during certain winter times? Or only certain roads? I think anyplace a person could reasonably walk to at any time of the year would be a possible location .. came to this conclusion after asking myself your same question. There are statements in the Rules, and there are interview statements in which Stockwell may have mis spoke (accidentally). I think the Rules written statement is tricky, part of the puzzle. edit: www.followrgefox.com has a more explicit statememt, so looks like the key is on MDI, thisjustin.
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Post by poe67 on Jun 16, 2020 7:48:01 GMT -5
The temporary park closure got me thinking ... Pel has said that the key can be found year round, 24/7. If that's the case doesn't that mean, by definition, the key cannot be located in the park since the park is always closed for part of the year? Similarly, I know some have speculated the key may be located on Bar Island, but it is specifically stated that the key is somewhere on MDI - is Bar Island part of MDI or is it considered a separate island? Bar Island is part of MDI and is accessible only at low tide via the bar. This is technically part of the Acadia National Park, but one of the spots that is accessible all year round. Poe
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Post by poe67 on Jun 16, 2020 7:52:07 GMT -5
Before corona virus, was the entire park closed during certain winter times? Or only certain roads? I think anyplace a person could reasonably walk to at any time of the year would be a possible location .. came to this conclusion after asking myself your same question. Astree, BCV (before corona virus), only the park loop road by Ocean Drive was open during the winter months. The other parts of the park loop road were closed. If you were hiking, the park would be open to all, even the closed sections. Poe
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Post by astree on Jun 16, 2020 8:17:51 GMT -5
Before corona virus, was the entire park closed during certain winter times? Or only certain roads? I think anyplace a person could reasonably walk to at any time of the year would be a possible location .. came to this conclusion after asking myself your same question. Astree, BCV (before corona virus), only the park loop road by Ocean Drive was open during the winter months. The other parts of the park loop road were closed. If you were hiking, the park would be open to all, even the closed sections. Poe Thanks Poe.
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Post by thisjustin on Jun 16, 2020 9:38:14 GMT -5
Astree, BCV (before corona virus), only the park loop road by Ocean Drive was open during the winter months. The other parts of the park loop road were closed. If you were hiking, the park would be open to all, even the closed sections. Poe Thanks Poe. Yes, thank you. That does clarify things. I realize Bar Island is part of the park (now) and is accessible at low tide, but wasn't sure that meant it was actually part of Mount Desert Island. In my head, I was thinking one island cannot be part of another island.
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Post by thedawailey on Jun 19, 2020 6:08:02 GMT -5
The temporary park closure got me thinking ... Pel has said that the key can be found year round, 24/7. If that's the case doesn't that mean, by definition, the key cannot be located in the park since the park is always closed for part of the year? Similarly, I know some have speculated the key may be located on Bar Island, but it is specifically stated that the key is somewhere on MDI - is Bar Island part of MDI or is it considered a separate island? Bar Island is part of MDI and is accessible only at low tide via the bar. This is technically part of the Acadia National Park, but one of the spots that is accessible all year round. Poe Poe -
Can you explain where you found information that says Bar Island is part of Mount Desert Island? I know it is part of Acadia National Park, but Acadia spans many other islands as well as parts of Schoodic Penninsula, but none of them are part of Mount Desert Island.
According to wikipedia, "The town of Bar Harbor has repeatedly attempted to obtain jurisdiction over this island ... but a 1903 court decision confirmed that the distant town of Gouldsboro retains jurisdiction under its 1798 articles of incorporation," so it seems to be considered a separate island, not part of Bar Harbor or Mount Desert Island.
It doesn't seem logical that they would state specifically Mount Desert Island and then put the key on another island, even if it's nearby.
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Post by poe67 on Jun 19, 2020 9:02:45 GMT -5
Bar Island is part of MDI and is accessible only at low tide via the bar. This is technically part of the Acadia National Park, but one of the spots that is accessible all year round. Poe Poe -
Can you explain where you found information that says Bar Island is part of Mount Desert Island? I know it is part of Acadia National Park, but Acadia spans many other islands as well as parts of Schoodic Penninsula, but none of them are part of Mount Desert Island.
According to wikipedia, "The town of Bar Harbor has repeatedly attempted to obtain jurisdiction over this island ... but a 1903 court decision confirmed that the distant town of Gouldsboro retains jurisdiction under its 1798 articles of incorporation," so it seems to be considered a separate island, not part of Bar Harbor or Mount Desert Island.
It doesn't seem logical that they would state specifically Mount Desert Island and then put the key on another island, even if it's nearby.
Valid Points. It technically does fall under the town of Gouldsboro which is across the bay. It is attached to Bar Harbor via the bar at low tide. Most of the locals here, including myself, associate it with the town and Island because of that. Heck, Bar Harbor PD and Fire Department are on the first response for any issues there. Personally for me, I do not think the key is on Bar Island because it is a part of Acadia. Poe
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Post by thedawailey on Jun 20, 2020 6:14:11 GMT -5
Poe -
Can you explain where you found information that says Bar Island is part of Mount Desert Island? I know it is part of Acadia National Park, but Acadia spans many other islands as well as parts of Schoodic Penninsula, but none of them are part of Mount Desert Island.
According to wikipedia, "The town of Bar Harbor has repeatedly attempted to obtain jurisdiction over this island ... but a 1903 court decision confirmed that the distant town of Gouldsboro retains jurisdiction under its 1798 articles of incorporation," so it seems to be considered a separate island, not part of Bar Harbor or Mount Desert Island.
It doesn't seem logical that they would state specifically Mount Desert Island and then put the key on another island, even if it's nearby.
Valid Points. It technically does fall under the town of Gouldsboro which is across the bay. It is attached to Bar Harbor via the bar at low tide. Most of the locals here, including myself, associate it with the town and Island because of that. Heck, Bar Harbor PD and Fire Department are on the first response for any issues there. Personally for me, I do not think the key is on Bar Island because it is a part of Acadia. Poe Poe-
Thanks. I also don't feel it's on Bar Island because it's technically not part of MDI, because it is in Acadia, and because it really has limited access - you'd have to know the tides on any given day to know when to go and how long you could stay. But the entire island was not all Acadia when they placed the key. All over the island, things have changed the boundaries of Acadia have expanded. It's possible they put the key near Acadia in an area that has now been absorbed by the park. It's hard to know what location on MDI they would have had a good idea would not change in 13 years. Unless they had no intention of the hunt going on for 13 years and the end date is really just another clue.
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Post by astree on Jun 21, 2020 6:35:01 GMT -5
Poe,
Are you seeing many out of state visitors in the area? If so, are police or others turning them away?
Incidentally, i recently read that Maine may be one of the building virus hotspots. Im wondering if thats due to vacationers?
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Post by justaboutnormal on Jun 21, 2020 12:17:33 GMT -5
Poe, Are you seeing many out of state visitors in the area? If so, are police or others turning them away? Incidentally, i recently read that Maine may be one of the building virus hotspots. Im wondering if thats due to vacationers?
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Post by justaboutnormal on Jun 21, 2020 12:21:32 GMT -5
Poe, Are you seeing many out of state visitors in the area? If so, are police or others turning them away? Incidentally, i recently read that Maine may be one of the building virus hotspots. Im wondering if thats due to vacationers? You have 3 options get a test 72 before getting here. Take a test when you arrive or stay indoors for 14 days when you get here. Don't do one of these then no reservations!
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Post by poe67 on Jun 22, 2020 6:56:51 GMT -5
Poe, Are you seeing many out of state visitors in the area? If so, are police or others turning them away? Incidentally, i recently read that Maine may be one of the building virus hotspots. Im wondering if thats due to vacationers? Hi justaboutnotmal, We are starting to see an influx of out of state visitors. The numbers are still down, but they are coming and the police are not turning them away. If Maine is a building hot spot, I would say it is due to the people arriving from other areas. Poe
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Post by thedawailey on Jun 22, 2020 10:00:31 GMT -5
Hi justaboutnotmal, We are starting to see an influx of out of state visitors. The numbers are still down, but they are coming and the police are not turning them away. If Maine is a building hot spot, I would say it is due to the people arriving from other areas. Poe I also have seen a lot more out-of-state license plates and they just had a covid outbreak in Houlton (far north and very rural) where 8 ambulance workers became infected after transporting an asymptomatic patient who later tested positive. They are not saying whether this person was a local resident or a visitor, but Aroostook County has had virtually no cases up to now so I suspect it arrived with a visitor from southern Maine or from out of state. Although Maine is not considered a hot spot yet, that can change quickly as this outbreak shows. Right now Maine is a potential hot spot, especially areas where tourists go, and to be honest, they are not observing the 14-day quarantine as required. Some simply come for a day or a weekend.
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