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Post by astree on Apr 16, 2017 12:01:02 GMT -5
Worse yet, the "in-tuition" may be a play on words he's using.
for example, the M.I.T. that repeats in the book.
or, in tu ITI on
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Post by razorback on Apr 17, 2017 17:08:18 GMT -5
I think I found some hints or clues that indicate that the starting city or state may not be New Orleans or Louisiana. Clue #1: In Chap. 13, on Oct. 31st, QB climbs a basswood tree in his backyard to string lights, falls out of the tree, and a light snow falls that night. Snow rarely falls in New Orleans. The average low in Oct and Nov in New Orleans is lower to upper 50s. Clue #2: Basswood trees normal range is not in Louisiana. They grow south to northern Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Not Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, or Texas. Clue #3: in Chap. 7, the group goes on a picnic 40 minutes out of town. It is spring, the elderberry flowers are in full bloom, pre-berry. He said it was sunny but they still needed their jackets. Elderberry flowers from mid-May until July. If it was cool enough for them to need their jackets, Louisiana temperatures in May are a little too warm. The average lows are close to 70 degrees. I think these are clues to get us away from New Orleans and to get us to start looking in a more northerly location.
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Post by brambler on Apr 17, 2017 17:37:49 GMT -5
I think I found some hints or clues that indicate that the starting city or state may not be New Orleans or Louisiana. Clue #1: In Chap. 13, on Oct. 31st, QB climbs a basswood tree in his backyard to string lights, falls out of the tree, and a light snow falls that night. Snow rarely falls in New Orleans. The average low in Oct and Nov in New Orleans is lower to upper 50s. Clue #2: Basswood trees normal range is not in Louisiana. They grow south to northern Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Not Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, or Texas. Clue #3: in Chap. 7, the group goes on a picnic 40 minutes out of town. It is spring, the elderberry flowers are in full bloom, pre-berry. He said it was sunny but they still needed their jackets. Elderberry flowers from mid-May until July. If it was cool enough for them to need their jackets, Louisiana temperatures in May are a little too warm. The average lows are close to 70 degrees. I think these are clues to get us away from New Orleans and to get us to start looking in a more northerly location. I agree fully. I actually think New Orleans is the end point. I don't think the order in which they visit different locations matter but that just my logic. Could be wrong!
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Post by brambler on Apr 17, 2017 17:43:03 GMT -5
Oh, another thing to add.
There is a Pomme de Terre state park in Louisiana. It is also a park in Missouri.
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Post by astree on Apr 18, 2017 5:23:29 GMT -5
Oh, another thing to add. There is a Pomme de Terre state park in Louisiana. It is also a park in Missouri.
This is an interesting approach. The Pomme de Terre Dam at Hermitage has a Quarry Point.
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Post by astree on Apr 18, 2017 5:44:38 GMT -5
I think I found some hints or clues that indicate that the starting city or state may not be New Orleans or Louisiana. Clue #1: In Chap. 13, on Oct. 31st, QB climbs a basswood tree in his backyard to string lights, falls out of the tree, and a light snow falls that night. Snow rarely falls in New Orleans. The average low in Oct and Nov in New Orleans is lower to upper 50s. Clue #2: Basswood trees normal range is not in Louisiana. They grow south to northern Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Not Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, or Texas. Clue #3: in Chap. 7, the group goes on a picnic 40 minutes out of town. It is spring, the elderberry flowers are in full bloom, pre-berry. He said it was sunny but they still needed their jackets. Elderberry flowers from mid-May until July. If it was cool enough for them to need their jackets, Louisiana temperatures in May are a little too warm. The average lows are close to 70 degrees. I think these are clues to get us away from New Orleans and to get us to start looking in a more northerly location. These are good observations. This is one of the reasons I wonder how rigorous Pete was in putting this together - was he being careful about coordinating the story into something that is plausible in the real world, or should we just overlook these types of details and look for hidden information in the words?
The first line of Ch 16 "Station of the Frogs" (where "frog" is a derogatory for "French", the previous chapter ??)
"As we drifted down the river, Tom pointed out interesting trees, including a majestic evergreen he had in his backyard." ??
They were looking at a tree in Tom's backyard, or "including a majestic evergreen LIKE he had in his backyard", or we're just to use the words to find something, or it's just filler ?
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Post by brambler on Apr 18, 2017 10:28:26 GMT -5
I think I found some hints or clues that indicate that the starting city or state may not be New Orleans or Louisiana. Clue #1: In Chap. 13, on Oct. 31st, QB climbs a basswood tree in his backyard to string lights, falls out of the tree, and a light snow falls that night. Snow rarely falls in New Orleans. The average low in Oct and Nov in New Orleans is lower to upper 50s. Clue #2: Basswood trees normal range is not in Louisiana. They grow south to northern Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Not Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, or Texas. Clue #3: in Chap. 7, the group goes on a picnic 40 minutes out of town. It is spring, the elderberry flowers are in full bloom, pre-berry. He said it was sunny but they still needed their jackets. Elderberry flowers from mid-May until July. If it was cool enough for them to need their jackets, Louisiana temperatures in May are a little too warm. The average lows are close to 70 degrees. I think these are clues to get us away from New Orleans and to get us to start looking in a more northerly location. These are good observations. This is one of the reasons I wonder how rigorous Pete was in putting this together - was he being careful about coordinating the story into something that is plausible in the real world, or should we just overlook these types of details and look for hidden information in the words?
The first line of Ch 16 "Station of the Frogs" (where "frog" is a derogatory for "French", the previous chapter ??)
"As we drifted down the river, Tom pointed out interesting trees, including a majestic evergreen he had in his backyard." ??
They were looking at a tree in Tom's backyard, or "including a majestic evergreen LIKE he had in his backyard", or we're just to use the words to find something, or it's just filler ?
With the evergreen tree thing - it's so hard for me to tell what is intended as help vs just fluff within the text unless it's blatant or there are indicator words. Do we take this as the gnarled tree we are looking for is an evergreen? Or is it just fluff? I've been looking at the whole thing as if the actual story and the hidden meanings are two separate things. Mapping out each location seems not useful since a majority of the book hints at one state, and I've only found one other easily recognizable stop that could be a solid point on their journey. The quote where Pete says there are about 15 clues throughout the book that point to a city. I believe these are built into journey of the story, but it not the path of the journey itself. I do acknowledge that there are definitely references to other states but are they so frequent that we can get 15 clues pointing to them?
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Post by astree on Apr 18, 2017 10:41:34 GMT -5
The way it reads is like they're drifting down the river looking at Tom's backyard. So, are they circling back, or is the sentence just poorly written, and / or just fluff?
"I've been looking at the whole thing as if the actual story and the hidden meanings are two separate things.'
That's one of the approaches I'm taking. I'm getting indications on quite a few states, many of them in a certain region of the U.S.
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"majestic evergreen"
www.evergreennursery.com/rhaphiolepis-majestic-beauty-std
RHAPHIOLEPIS
HI LO SAPPHIRES
Nels speaks about the sapphires in Sues hair.
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Post by brambler on Apr 18, 2017 11:16:33 GMT -5
The way it reads is like they're drifting down the river looking at Tom's backyard. So, are they circling back, or is the sentence just poorly written, and / or just fluff?
"I've been looking at the whole thing as if the actual story and the hidden meanings are two separate things.'
That's one of the approaches I'm taking. I'm getting indications on quite a few states, many of them in a certain region of the U.S.
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"majestic evergreen"
www.evergreennursery.com/rhaphiolepis-majestic-beauty-std
RHAPHIOLEPIS
HI LO SAPPHIRES
Nels speaks about the sapphires in Sues hair.
Yeah I have a small list of states and a few towns/parts of a state. All are definitely in one part of the country, except for California. Hmm Hi lo sapphires The theme of Sapphires and Rubies is always interesting. Just did a quick search and it looks like Rubies and Sapphires can be mined in North Carolina. Louisiana's common gem is the Palm Opal made from petrified palm wood.
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Post by brambler on Apr 20, 2017 19:34:09 GMT -5
Another note about Pomme de Terre State Park, Missouri - there is an area nearby called Hermitage. Rabbit hole or intended Hermitage reference from the first chapter?
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Apr 20, 2017 21:45:00 GMT -5
Another note about Pomme de Terre State Park, Missouri - there is an area nearby called Hermitage. Rabbit hole or intended Hermitage reference from the first chapter? My brother lives literally across the street from the real The Hermitage and my wife and kids actually just took the tour again last summer. If you believe Hermitage is a clue, definitely look into Andrew Jackson. Well, that or the Oak Bar.
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Apr 20, 2017 21:48:42 GMT -5
The way it reads is like they're drifting down the river looking at Tom's backyard. So, are they circling back, or is the sentence just poorly written, and / or just fluff?
"I've been looking at the whole thing as if the actual story and the hidden meanings are two separate things.'
That's one of the approaches I'm taking. I'm getting indications on quite a few states, many of them in a certain region of the U.S.
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"majestic evergreen"
www.evergreennursery.com/rhaphiolepis-majestic-beauty-std
RHAPHIOLEPIS
HI LO SAPPHIRES
Nels speaks about the sapphires in Sues hair.
astree, now that's a slightly different take on a paraliminal universe... Does it happen to be pirate themed, as well? Yo-ho, Yo-ho...
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Post by brambler on Apr 20, 2017 21:57:41 GMT -5
Another note about Pomme de Terre State Park, Missouri - there is an area nearby called Hermitage. Rabbit hole or intended Hermitage reference from the first chapter? My brother lives literally across the street from the real The Hermitage and my wife and kids actually just took the tour again last summer. If you believe Hermitage is a clue, definitely look into Andrew Jackson. Well, that or the Oak Bar. So here's a quote from the website of the Oak Bar in the Hermitage Hotel, Nashville. It's relevance to the book is crazy. "The Hermitage Hotel's world-famous Oak Bar was originally opened as a private gentleman's club in 1910. Its illustrious history began during the onset of Tennessee’s prohibition era, and the bar achieved notoriety and fame when it was caught serving teapots filled with bourbon. Today, the Oak Bar is known for its extensive 180-bottle Bourbon Library, the largest collection of bourbons in Nashville" Teapots filled with bourbon?!?! How could that be any more perfect! Private gentleman's club too. Could be extreme coincidence, but how cool is that. Thank you for the suggestion, minotaur
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Post by minotaurmoreno on Apr 20, 2017 22:08:42 GMT -5
Happy hunting, Brambler.
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Post by kpro on Apr 20, 2017 22:09:22 GMT -5
Private gentlemens club?
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