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Post by goldilocks on Jun 16, 2020 19:46:35 GMT -5
It is incredibly striking to me that after 10 days of clue and solve "dumping" there doesn't appear to be any two solutions alike across all of the forums/blogs. How can so many people who have worked on this for so many years think so differently? With other hunts there is often some kind of consensus this many years in. Before the big announcement there wasn't much consensus. Now that it's been found and people are talking, still no consensus. The poem was purposefully ambiguous. If it was to be a personal quest for each and every one of us, how can there be one winner? It's a rhetorical question but as the days pass I am beginning to wonder.
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Post by badger on Jun 25, 2020 16:21:09 GMT -5
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Post by grapette79or80 on Jun 25, 2020 17:34:55 GMT -5
I’m actually happy it’s over - Was spending too much of my brain thinking about it.
Would be extremely surprised if it was not found in Carson National Forest, NM.
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Post by annie on Jun 26, 2020 5:48:18 GMT -5
I honestly can’t remember if i posted my solve - it is probably wrong and way too cryptic. My solve of the poem contained in the book The Thrill of the Chase by Forrest Fenn, is as follows: GOOGLE MAP LINKS BELOW No One (alone) My start point is at STAR LAKE in MONTANA, CUSTER GALLATIN NATIONAL FOREST on the STILLWATER and PARK BOUNDARY LINE Follow the path of WEST ROSEBUD down the canyon.. (with my treasures bold).. No Two. (No number two) Put in below the BROWN LAKE (seen on a good map) home of Brown trout. No Three /. Not here. No place. From there it's PHANTOM CREEK (an anagram of no place for the meek) The end is ever drawing nigh; (ENGRAVED SIGN to) Near, End and Grave PHANTOM CREEK TRAIL 17 No Four/ No F ‘ in oar! There’ll be no paddle up your creek. HUCKLEBERRY CREEK (anagram leaving - no paddle) Finn, is a paddle, PELTON is a turbine in hydro electricity power plants. HYDROELECTRIC STATION (heavy loads and water high) MYSTIC LAKE POWER PLANT No Five/ On Fire (a blaze) THE WILDERNESS BOUNDARY (a line on a good map) Look down to the end/cease to see AQUEDUCT (also Heavy Loads and Water High) But tarry scant with (anagram) TRIBUTARY with gravel maze. FISH CREEK “Just take the chest and go in peace” (anagram) ENDANGERED SPECIES CUTTHROAT (look at it from google earth) see the fish? No six/IS ON X How high is it that I must go? I sit on it. (Bench) BENCH MARK QUESTION MARK and MARK on quest. Marker No seven/ Mark E Vonseggern (MEMORIAL PLAQUE) No eight/Know height (answers i already know) KNOW LEDGE I've done it tired, and now I'm weak (i need to rest I’m Frail) FOR REST TRAIL 19 If you are brave and in the wood -IF UR and BOLD, wood =ELDER. = BOULDER FIELD No nine/ I give you title VIEW inherit/heir in here Need BOTG to see it. Put in below the home of Brown.. covered with an ‘ADOBE’ = Pubelo coating. ABODE = HOME *** From my work above (that’s only a glimpse of the analysis that I’ve done over the past 5 years!), my best estimate for the location of the Chest is somewhere in the first few hundred feet, as you go up Fish Creek, from Mystic Lake - see map below If we ever do find out the location where the chest was found, then I’ll know if I was close. Just be happy to be in the right state! Star Lake - goo.gl/maps/BBfiPx4n3mgssxqHABrown Lake - goo.gl/maps/HWgHXDy8Nqvtg7ow8Fish Creek - goo.gl/maps/LMYaHCnw3xYKcShE9
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Post by Jonny Blaze on Jun 26, 2020 11:10:46 GMT -5
Dollar Creek
Begin it where warm waters halt; where cold waters start. Follow the Wood River down the canyon; in the Wood. The famous unsinkable Molly Brown lived in Leadville CO, at 10,200 feet. Like a pilot, go to a spot along the Wood River, just below 10,200 feet; home of Brown. From there your creek flows around one side of a small island like an omega; the end. The creek flows year round, and is a visually perfect draw on the mountain; ever drawing. Dollar Creek is your creek. The omega is upstream and to the left of an interesting outcrop that looks a bit like a great horned owl; wise as an owl. At 10,199ft, within the void of the owl rock, I saw white man-made markings facing inward; the blaze. One must be brave to crawl out to the owl rock, to become wise, and look straight down into the void of the owl rock.
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Post by dalby2020 on Jun 26, 2020 11:48:19 GMT -5
The Indiana Jones solve:
Alone = Solo = Han Solo = Harrison Ford = Indiana Jones
Canyon = Barranca (the guide in the opening scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark that tries to steal the map)
Hear me all = Hear Forrest all = Hear Forrestal = Dr. Forrestal (the impaled body they found in the treasure cave in Raiders of the Lost Ark).
Brave and in the wood = rave in wood = Ravenwood = Marion and Abner Ravenwood
End of my rainbow = end of my arc = Ark = Raiders of the Lost Ark
Tarry = stick around = round; scant = short; Tarry Scant = Short Round (the boy in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom)
Quest to cease = last quest = Last Crusade = Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
So why is it ... And leave ... The answer ... I've done ... SATI = Satipo (the guide that tries to steal the treasure and abandon Indiana in the opening scenes of Raiders of the Lost Ark).
Of these, Barranca is also a place name in the search area. The treasure was hidden at Barranca, NM.
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Post by findingitfun on Jun 26, 2020 13:47:08 GMT -5
I can't believe how deep you all have thought about the treasure. Makes me feel super inferior to some of your all brain power. To that I saw a new use for brain power. This looks brand new: www.rockymountaintreasure.com/Looks like this group is trying to create another treasure hunt. I like the twist as it is modern and has the potential to be incredibly valuable (assuming I understand it correctly.) I signed up to the email as it is just for more information. Take a look
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Post by thetruthisoutthere on Jun 26, 2020 15:10:22 GMT -5
I can't believe how deep you all have thought about the treasure. Makes me feel super inferior to some of your all brain power. To that I saw a new use for brain power. This looks brand new: www.rockymountaintreasure.com/Looks like this group is trying to create another treasure hunt. I like the twist as it is modern and has the potential to be incredibly valuable (assuming I understand it correctly.) I signed up to the email as it is just for more information. Take a look Kinda suspicious that a treasure of "digital riches" has a website that had its peer certificate revoked?
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jun 26, 2020 17:03:26 GMT -5
I can't believe how deep you all have thought about the treasure. Makes me feel super inferior to some of your all brain power. To that I saw a new use for brain power. This looks brand new: www.rockymountaintreasure.com/Looks like this group is trying to create another treasure hunt. I like the twist as it is modern and has the potential to be incredibly valuable (assuming I understand it correctly.) I signed up to the email as it is just for more information. Take a look Kinda suspicious that a treasure of "digital riches" has a website that had its peer certificate revoked? I like how they make $129,000 when it's funded...
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Post by badger on Jun 27, 2020 9:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by jakebrakes on Jun 27, 2020 16:37:57 GMT -5
I agree that it was in the Carson National Forest. My final hiding spot for the chest was off the High Road to Taos, Hwy 518, about 1/2 mile from the old US HILL MICA MINE, up on a ridge line that some maps call Borrego Mesa. My BLAZE was visible from Google Earth - the US HILL MINE itself - the outline of the mine forms the letter F in the landscape when viewed from above.
Heavy loads and water high was the MINE - it has water on site.. two ponds and a few creeks. Home of Brown was also on the mine site - an ancient clay mine where the pueblo people got micaceous clay to make brownware pottery. Brown clay, brown pottery = home of brown. It's famous in archaeology circles ... called "molo nan na" which translates to "the pot dirt place" WWWH was Ponce de Leon Springs about twelve miles north as a crow flies, then you take the old el Camino Real trail due South through Miranda Canyon and takes you all the way to the creek on your left, which is below the Home of Brown and leads you up to the Mine/BLAZE ...
There's lots more.. my whole solve was historical and archaeological. And contiguous. Never got to check out my final solution for the hidey spot though... Don't know if I want to be correct or way way off.
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Post by mark on Jun 27, 2020 17:50:35 GMT -5
Jun 19, 2020 at 2:43am Quote Post Options Post by mark on Jun 19, 2020 at 2:43am My name is Mark Roberts and posted this 12;09 Pacific time 6/19/20/20
We worked on this for over 7 years, making our yearly pilgrimage to the Rockies, which included myself, my son, and brother in law. We started near Yellowstone and through the years we gradually worked our way east toward Montana. The big breakthrough came when I realized that the song Forrest's cohorts sang around the campfire. "Bolder and Bolder" was referring to the two Bolder Rivers that is also the area where, "And a River Ran Through It",was filmed and vaguely referenced to Robert Redford in Forrest book.The WWWH is a defunct hot springs at the resort near Mcgreagor. "Take It In the Canyon Down" is oriented north and south but the creek that flows out of the mountains actually flows from the north. The road out of the town of Big Timber takes you up into the mountains to the abandoned mining area and town of Independence, Montana. This is where it gets interesting...
The whole idea is Forrest trying to get you into the Independence mining area. Remember when the old wagon that Forrest featured front and center? One of his scrapbooks referenced that it traveled all the way from Independence, Missouri. Along the River you follow to Independence you pass a large protected beaver dam, which is the home of Brown (beavers). The campground is called. Big Beaver".The River was once called,"BIG B" River with a capital B. Remember when Fenn stained his, "Tail" brown when he came down the fire escape? Home of Brown. "Not far but to far to walk" means you are using mechanized transportation, it is quite a few miles going up into the mountains to Independence. There's also a Creek along the road named, "UPSIDE DOWN CREEK", remember Skippy's favorite desert? The sign actually hangs upside down!
I think , "no place for the meek" refers to a horse corral at the ranger station where the box canyon also is. A corral is no place for a meek horse. Also could refer to the extremely rough road from here on out. Lots of Jeeps and lifted vehicles.
Remember when Forrest took an absurd amount of photos of his bathroom? Especially his sink? That's also the name of the little trickle of a stream you drive up, and in no way you could paddle...SINK CREEK.
Forresrt had many ways to to hint at the same place. I found a mining site online that gives you a map and underlying names of Mines all over the states. Here are the names of some of the mines in the Independence area: Hidden Treasure, Daisy (remember the story on the Daisy BB gun?) and the Omega mine. My favorite is Blue Moon Mine, which is made famous with the old Greyhound Bus with the guy that gave Forrest change for his bus fare... with "BLUE MOON" in tiny letters on the front of the bus for the destination....all aboard!
There's so many layers Forrest put in his books and stories, I'll try to get to the directions to the treasure. I actually had this solution figured out last October but snow had come. This year we were going in August as we always did but heard the news too late that it was found.
Now the road that goes through Independence winds around and finally drops down to BLUE LAKE (Forrest's favorite color- blue jeans, blue shirt, blue bracelet, blue jeans and Hush Puppies There is a barrier at Blue Lake that is marked as going into wilderness, no vehicles allowed, hence the shadow picture of Forrest on the cover of the second book holding a staff, you're at the wilderness boundary, HALT". It's right by the parking lot for motorized vehicles. So this is Forrest's secret place, a place high in the mountains with lofty peaks all around and a green meadow leading down to the water, absolutely idyllic...
So where was the chest? Remember Forrest's scrapbook on the bombed out WW1 road where he said, "STAY ON THE ROAD" ? That is the road down to Blue Lake.
Now the key to cracking the puzzle is something that was right in front of our noses....eyes and eye glasses. Notice how many times he mentioned seeing, glasses, eyes, in all his writings. Check out the two books where one is full of people wearing glasses and the other having hardly any. He's trying to draw attention to eyes. Reference his father's hat that is full of eyes, check the books and scrapbooks, tons of attention to eyes. How does this apply to the solve? On Google Earth the road shows nicely going down to the lake...about over half way down, I think, is a figure in the road that looks like a pair of glasses (use your imagination) that was made by the peculiarity of vehicles making that turn. I know, it looks like it would wash out or change shape over time, but it lasted long enough for the finder to find it. THAT is the ever-loving and world famous BLAZE. When you stand on that blaze and look east toward a large juniper tree (Forrest mentions regularly). It's close to being the same distance from the road at that spot to the tree, about 200 feet which is also close to the distance that Forrest was lifted up in the helicopter, remember he felt "umbilically" attached to that area? So I believe if one took a metal detector and swept under that tree and/or climbed on your stomach (maybe as in the gypsy drawing when Forrest was on his belly under the wagon?
We had our time slot set for mid August but we didn't get out there first and lost the prize. There was so many things we found and not mentioned (or forgot about) in Fenn's puzzle, but our team had a famously good time and would do it again in a heart beat.
We showed the solve as we know many people would like to know where it was. This outline is just enough to get you to the spot with many side diversions but all roughly lead in the same direction.....from the town of Big Timber you can just turn on your GPS as the town of Independence shows up on GPS. Then it's through the mining area and over the hill to Blue Lake. Beautiful county, you'll see why it was Fenn's favorite spot.
Mark Roberts Benton City, WA
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 28, 2020 12:53:10 GMT -5
That's interesting, Mark. I wanted to get by son, and my brother-in-law and his (and my sister's) son, to get involved with me. But all of them were way too busy making their lives pan out to get involved in anything like a treasure hunt at this point in time. I envy those of you who could do this with family or friends. It wasn't in my cards, regrettably.
One thing I'd found, there are names that fit all over the place. I looked at about 8 different locals in my early days of the quest, and everywhere there were names that I could make something out of. I think the secret is to go beyond that, and find support of those places besides just the name. You did some of that, but I think it just needs to be a lot stronger in connecting the dots.
I hope you all had fun, and made some great memories to talk about for the rest of your lives.
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Post by omni on Jun 28, 2020 14:36:49 GMT -5
I've been away from here for some time, but I made a solve video and wanted to share it here. It's my first time making a video, so it's a bit rough around the edges. Thank you to everyone who watches it. youtu.be/-uDcy8LtzdUEdit: Now that people who want to watch the video have been able to, here is the post it notes version of the solve. All the reasoning is in the video if you want it. Warm waters halt, paradoxically, where they begin. The Gulf of Mexico (the gulf stream "waters") are the warm waters, and they "halt" at the headwaters of any major river or possibly tributary that eventually flows into the Gulf of Mexico. Specifically, the one we want is the Arkansas river. Take it in the canyon down, we take the "it" (the Arkansas river) into the canyon down, which means south in this case. Not far but too far to walk simply means to cross the river Put in (cross the river) below the Home of Brown. The clue that everyone missed for 10 years was simply right above them. Aspen Ridge is above you as you enter Browns Canyon, and it is the long sought Home of Brown. From there it's no place for the meek. Browns Canyon was/is a designated wilderness area, thus you are in no place for the meek from here out. The end is ever drawing nigh. There is a "draw" (geographic term) on your nigh or left side right when you cross the river and go left. They'll be no paddle up your creek. The draw is also the creek, hence the semicolon, and the creek itself (Cottonwood creek) is a dry creek. Just heavy loads...as in the bed load, otherwise know as the heavy load in a creek bed, which is what you are walking on. And water high. I believe water high is a cottonwood tree(s). The white fluff that comes down from a cottonwood tree that resembles snow when it falls is the water high. "Been wise" is possibly sagebrush, maybe someplace along the path you just walked, and the blaze is whatever FF's marker was that IMO only the finder will know for sure.
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Post by uxu on Jun 28, 2020 17:37:39 GMT -5
My Solve lead me to June Creek where it enters North Shoshone River at UXU Ranch between Yellowstone and Cody Wyoming but it started at Yellowstone Airport and went down Southfork road to the end first (thanks Forrest). I found the clues by rewriting each line of the poem using all of the letters from that line of the poem. Remember Forrest said to not mess with his poem so dont! Remember he speaks the truth but not the whole truth. You need his original and re-written version to solve for the clue. Each line of the poem has one word that is KEY. That word is common to one word in a named monumental location also somewhat near Cody but is only a hint to help find the Clue. Most of which are creeks and you will pass all of them in order! Along the way you will pass a Guest house for Rustlers ( Maybe Billy the Kidd) and a hidden waterfall resembling that of the one in Loas also wih an un-named cemetary below and a rock formation above resembling the skull ring of the Phantom. Only the Phantom knows.... A one room school house more than 50 miles round trip out of the way from Cody. I wonder what it says above the door?. A creek named Schoolhouse creek across the road ( no paddle up this creek). An Administrator of this forum can email me for the full solve and I will send a pdf with images of each location included.
The clues identify the following locations in the order of the poem and the order found along Southfork road Cody Wyoming.
1st line decoded indicates his wife does not know location of Chest
2nd Yellowstone Airport (the 2nd line of the poem rewritten is : I land where tombs dry fast)(tombs= yellow stones)
3rd Hayden Arches Bridge
4th Cedar Mountain
5th line re-writen; Begin it where warm waters halt and you get: the answer brew with a grim tale Brew = spirits The location is Spirit Mountain Cave (this is the solution to WWWH) and Clue 1 Look up history of Spirit Mountain Cave and the grim tale is Crystal Clear, and is on Cedar Mountain below Hayden Arches Bridge and west of Yellowstone Airport the rest of the clues you will come to in order down Southfork (291) road in the same order they are in the poem.
6th Irma Flats
7th Willow Creek
8th Timber Creek (we just passed Rustlers Roost Guest House) and Billy the kidd
9th Rock Creek
10th Houlihan Creek (there is a connection to Dr Who in the clue to this creek. Think Mash 4077)
11th Schoolhouse Creek (notice Valley Cemetary near by)
12th Legg Creek (see Brown Thomas Ranch)
13 look up in next pass zoom in with google maps and see waterfall. Go up a few hundred feet more and see the Phantom skull ring.
14 THE BLAZE the re- written line to If you've seen the blaze is If I hadn't seen blaze would've been you. f With one letter left over, he signed with the little f. Look down the road from Deer Creek and see "HAWKEYE" the cut in the mountain above in the shape of an eyebrow is THE BLAZE.
15 This line deciphered is Forrest simply telling you to watch out for snakes and offets no clue.
16 Tarry Scant line deciphered tells to go to end of road Where the cowboys or Gypsies for those familiar with The Thrill of the Chase will circle thier wagons. This is down past the cemetaey right!?
17 from here we will need to leave this valley and go to UXU ranch directly north to hwy 20 between Yellowstone and Cody (they perform weddings here too) and follow June Creek on this Ranch (the last clue and Boots on the ground) to the Chest in the Cottonwood trees near the bridge. UXU Ranch is on the National List of Historic Places and Forrest and His Family have passed this Ranch many times and his sisters name is June. Now if Southfork road is also the road his brother dropped him off so far away there were not even coyotes there. Forrest might be back in the middle between his brother and sister again. I believe Peggy might be waiting for him at this Ranch as well. You may want to go here "in June" Look at UXU upside down and you get the double omegas with X marks the Spot in between. See youtube videos on UXU Ranch, a magical place with a buffalo, horses and old a covered wagon just inside near June creek. This ranch has guided hunts that start from the end of Southfork road where the loop is. Your welcome, and Congrats to the other solver!! Whom has not been identified Yet. My wife and I could not have gone until and were planning the trip for after July 12th 2020.
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