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Post by oaktree on Jun 10, 2020 10:38:13 GMT -5
Does the reference to "canopy of stars" equate to "Big Sky" ie Montana? I only made a brief attempt at a solve a few years ago. WWWH= where cold waters start= the mountains = Montana; Take = steal= still; Canyon down = water/river, thus Stillwater River, Montana. Not far but too far to walk. = 24 to walk. A double entendre? Drive to forest trail 24 trailhead, then walk. Put in below the home of Brown = go off trail, but I had no idea what Brown was, and I got busy with other things. I did have a few other ideas, such as "wise= sage = sagebrush. It was an enjoyable intellectual exercise but I just had too many other things going to pursue it more. And somehow, the Stillwater River area didn't seem awesome enough to be the right place. But, in my mind I was always rooting for others seeking the treasure.
At this point, I'm hoping to see the initial email received from the finder; Date- stamped, geo-tagged photos; Forrest's story and description of the exact location where the chest was placed, etc; revelation of all nine clues and their meaning; and an indepedent narrative by the finder of how he deciphered the poem and foundvthe chest. Having done investigations for thirty years, I like to see things validated by evidence, and I'm a bit puzzled at the vagueness we're seeing so far. I'll be excited to see what details are coming. Maybe the finder wants to write a book? It might be a good read.
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Post by brianu on Jun 10, 2020 10:44:35 GMT -5
Maybe there's another treasure hunt and the first one is a lead up to that. What if how the treasure poem works is a part of it and stuff. It's have to be a secret then. Ttotc part two
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Post by casperjeff on Jun 10, 2020 10:55:07 GMT -5
At this point, I'm hoping to see the initial email received from the finder; Date- stamped, geo-tagged photos; Forrest's story and description of the exact location where the chest was placed, etc; revelation of all nine clues and their meaning; and an indepedent narrative by the finder of how he deciphered the poem and foundvthe chest. Having done investigations for thirty years, I like to see things validated by evidence, and I'm a bit puzzled at the vagueness we're seeing so far. Didn't we all know the 'rules' going in? Fenn TOLD us that he had washed his hands of the location, the TC and the solve once he secreted the treasure. He never promised a solution. He never promised any of the things you list above. The finder (once validated by Fenn) holds the cards at this point.
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Post by gnossos on Jun 10, 2020 10:58:17 GMT -5
Didn't we all know the 'rules' going in? Fenn TOLD us that he had washed his hands of the location, the TC and the solve once he secreted the treasure. He never promised a solution. He never promised any of the things you list above . The finder (once validated by Fenn) holds the cards at this point.I dunno... we can probably post THE solution if we all pull in the same direction.
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Post by oaktree on Jun 10, 2020 11:34:19 GMT -5
At this point, I'm hoping to see the initial email received from the finder; Date- stamped, geo-tagged photos; Forrest's story and description of the exact location where the chest was placed, etc; revelation of all nine clues and their meaning; and an indepedent narrative by the finder of how he deciphered the poem and foundvthe chest. Having done investigations for thirty years, I like to see things validated by evidence, and I'm a bit puzzled at the vagueness we're seeing so far. Didn't we all know the 'rules' going in? Fenn TOLD us that he had washed his hands of the location, the TC and the solve once he secreted the treasure. He never promised a solution. He never promised any of the things you list above. The finder (once validated by Fenn) holds the cards at this point.
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Post by oaktree on Jun 10, 2020 11:38:05 GMT -5
True. I guess I would feel obligated to satisfy the curiosity of so many people who invested time and energy and means into the search. But maybe Forrest feels no such obligation. I have no idea. Just hoping.
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 10, 2020 11:48:57 GMT -5
At this point, I'm hoping to see the initial email received from the finder; Date- stamped, geo-tagged photos; Forrest's story and description of the exact location where the chest was placed, etc; revelation of all nine clues and their meaning; and an indepedent narrative by the finder of how he deciphered the poem and foundvthe chest. Having done investigations for thirty years, I like to see things validated by evidence, and I'm a bit puzzled at the vagueness we're seeing so far. Didn't we all know the 'rules' going in? Fenn TOLD us that he had washed his hands of the location, the TC and the solve once he secreted the treasure. He never promised a solution. He never promised any of the things you list above. The finder (once validated by Fenn) holds the cards at this point. I agree completely. The rest of us are just going to have to respect the Finder's rights, whether we want to or not. Me, I think it's tacky in the extreme to tell someone else what to do with their time and money. I've seen many suggestions, that's ok. But don't have expectations, it's just not cool.
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Post by oaktree on Jun 10, 2020 14:54:23 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying. What would you like to see at this point?
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 10, 2020 16:55:02 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying. What would you like to see at this point? A bottle of Chivas Regal, which I plan to take care of tomorrow. (Getting it, not finishing it, lol.) The rest will take care of itself in it's own time.
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Post by goldenchild on Jun 11, 2020 13:46:17 GMT -5
I think it’s crazy when people say the finder and Forrest have no obligation to divulge a solve. If people have died, and spent their life savings looking for something I think they’d deserve proof that what they looked for all those years actually existed and was actually possible to find. I personally totally believe Forrest and know he is not a BS’er but for the sake of any doubters out there...proof it existed would go along ways. He could give the state up without any issue whatsoever for him or the finder. Or a single picture of the chest post find. It would take less time to type out the state then “give me time”. Imagine how much fun all the searchers could be having right now tearing thru the archives of post trying to still solve it before The actual solve is released. In the meantime we just have refreshing our browsers every hour to see if any news has been released yet
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Post by astree on Jun 11, 2020 14:30:44 GMT -5
I think it’s crazy when people say the finder and Forrest have no obligation to divulge a solve. If people have died, and spent their life savings looking for something I think they’d deserve proof that what they looked for all those years actually existed and was actually possible to find. There are two separate things... whether the treasure actually existed, and whether the poem lead to the location. If I didnt believe either was true, i wouldnt have invested time and emotion. So, by each of our very involvement, havent we demonstrated our belief? If i?, or anyone believed both were true enough to invest purselves in the hint, do we need proof? A picture proving its been found would fo a long way, I agree. That is different than posting the solve or a state. There would still be an overhanging question as to whether the find was up and up... that would be based on an accessment of forrests and the finders character, which may prove hard. If forrest had stated that the solution would be released after the treasure was found, i would expect him to honor it. But he didnt. Some hunt provide solutions, some dont. Some time ago, forrest said to the effect that he would leave it up to the finder.
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Post by luttleboy on Jun 11, 2020 15:21:15 GMT -5
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Post by grapette79or80 on Jun 11, 2020 17:51:05 GMT -5
I think it’s crazy when people say the finder and Forrest have no obligation to divulge a solve. If people have died, and spent their life savings looking for something I think they’d deserve proof that what they looked for all those years actually existed and was actually possible to find. There are two separate things... whether the treasure actually existed, and whether the poem lead to the location. If I didnt believe either was true, i wouldnt have invested time and emotion. So, by each of our very involvement, havent we demonstrated our belief? If i?, or anyone believed both were true enough to invest purselves in the hint, do we need proof? A picture proving its been found would fo a long way, I agree. That is different than posting the solve or a state. There would still be an overhanging question as to whether the find was up and up... that would be based on an accessment of forrests and the finders character, which may prove hard. If forrest had stated that the solution would be released after the treasure was found, i would expect him to honor it. But he didnt. Some hunt provide solutions, some dont. Some time ago, forrest said to the effect that he would leave it up to the finder. I just wonder if it was physically there or the solution brings finder to contact fenn with solve and then chest is handed over in person from a vault. Also, recall Fenn always said finder should wait 30 days.
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Post by woollybugger on Jun 12, 2020 12:29:46 GMT -5
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