Is the Blaze still there?

[Jenny]

Is the Blaze still there.......This is one of the things I would like to know.


Forrest once said that the Blaze was not feasible to remove, and so I feel it most likely remains (but confirmation of such would be great), because since I feel the Blaze is what indicated the location of the Treasure Chest, a 'solution', of a consensus, and made by Group Effort, could be found.

This is what might need to happen... if for whatever reason the full solution/location cannnot be shared.

[firesnake]

I understand that sentiment Jenny and I think many have realised in the last few days that sharing could have lead to much better outcomes all round. I removed my solution from the other thread fearing this might not yet be over, but yes I think the blaze is still there as it is not physical.

My solution is created by drawing the areas in West Yellowstone that matches the poem once you find WWWH - and hinted at throughout many of the Scrapbooks - into the shape of an arrow. Forrest’s ‘prized’ arrowhead.

It’s late here but I’m going to spend some time getting images ready to fully explain, tomorrow. Can’t stop thinking about it.

[nkown]

www2.usafa.org/Heritage/CarillonBells

It's not going anywhere.... the bells were an addition around the time the TC was hidden, made by the Verdin company (check HoD for reference to Verdin) and plays We Will Remember Them (mentioned by Dal on HoD). FF's home 100 years from now will be just off this portal, in a manner of speaking.

Topped by a Polaris... the north star... bound on one side by Parade Loop Rd., on another by Oldes' grave, by Deadman's Creek to the North, and just south is the golf course that Sneed and Demeret played a match at in 1966. You'll notice Falcon Stadium and Falcon trail nearby... and a statue of General Hap Arnold made by Glenna Goodacre... 411 drive is there (information please), pinion road, Stanley Canyon, Doolittle Hall, Woodmen Drive at the south gate used to be Gardiner's sanitarium.

The tallest carillon in the US is the Crean Carillon. That's an unusual word, hard to find these days except on this site!

The Bell Tower is quite an indulgence and will serenade Mr. Fenn for eternity under a canopy of stars... and stripes.

[goldhunter]

I believe I have solved the poem. I can see the blaze on Google but that doesn't mean it's still there. My theory is the blaze is made of tar painted onto the top of a rock.

Hmmm. I wonder if I could scrape up enough pieces of the blaze to sell and still come out ahead on this deal.

[Jenny]

Many of The Secret Casque's general locations (40 year old hunt for those unfamiliar- mysteriouswritings.com/the-secret-a-treasure-hunt/ ) were found and mostly agreed upon by pooling thoughts together.....unfortunately, in that hunt, many of the locations turned out be in places where digging is now prohibited or the landscapes have changed since they were buried, and so some are unable to be dug up and verified....

We still have the Blaze in the Chase....

So it's possible a group effort might help determine a solution for the Chase....

And then the first step in doing that is agreeing on a 'State'.... and that can't even be done...lol.... but there is still hope.... has anyone had similar or same WWWH? Maybe we start there?

[heidini]

Jun 10, 2020 17:46:54 GMT -5 Jenny said:

Many of The Secret Casque's general locations (40 year old hunt for those unfamiliar- mysteriouswritings.com/the-secret-a-treasure-hunt/ ) were found and mostly agreed upon by pooling thoughts together.....unfortunately, in that hunt, many of the locations turned out be in places where digging is now prohibited or the landscapes have changed since they were buried, and so some are unable to be dug up and verified....

We still have the Blaze in the Chase....

So it's possible a group effort might help determine a solution for the Chase....

And then the first step in doing that is agreeing on a 'State'.... and that can't even be done...lol.... but there is still hope.... has anyone had similar or same WWWH? Maybe we start there?

What do you mean still hope? Hope for what?

[Jenny]

Jun 10, 2020 17:51:52 GMT -5 heidini said:

Jun 10, 2020 17:46:54 GMT -5 Jenny said:

Many of The Secret Casque's general locations (40 year old hunt for those unfamiliar- mysteriouswritings.com/the-secret-a-treasure-hunt/ ) were found and mostly agreed upon by pooling thoughts together.....unfortunately, in that hunt, many of the locations turned out be in places where digging is now prohibited or the landscapes have changed since they were buried, and so some are unable to be dug up and verified....

We still have the Blaze in the Chase....

So it's possible a group effort might help determine a solution for the Chase....

And then the first step in doing that is agreeing on a 'State'.... and that can't even be done...lol.... but there is still hope.... has anyone had similar or same WWWH? Maybe we start there?

What do you mean still hope? Hope for what?

Still hope to come to some consensus on what the solution was.....if it is never released.....

[heidini]

It has to be boots on the ground for someone to discover it. Even if we put together a consensus, we probably wouldn’t be able to get past the fourth clue without going there.

[nkown]

I'm a bit confused why all of those obvious Fenn references do not pique anyone's interest. How can all of that exist in one place -- all the subject of Fenn's writings, Q&A's, SB's, etc. all in one place -- and no one comments on it at all?

Seems odd. What's the explanation that a Glenna statue of a 'General" solve exists with a bell tower (he writes about bell towers off his portal), next to Deadman's Creek (no paddle up a creek you're deadman), a falcon trail, a golf course that hosted exactly ONE public exhibition that happened to include the two golfers in the hiccup scrapbook, that has road names that are all mentioned by Fenn, and where his hero lies for eternity -- and where he is one of only a handful of living people eligible to be buried there.... and it's not of interest?

Or that SB107 gives the flight coordinates from Florence CO in a direct line the "Wright" way to Double Eagle waypoint at 192.1 heading or reciprocal heading of 12.1 hits the USAFA directly.

I have seen no other solve that lines up with so much FF lore... and this is about a quarter of it.

[Jenny]

Jun 10, 2020 17:56:17 GMT -5 heidini said:

It has to be boots on the ground for someone to discover it. Even if we put together a consensus, we probably wouldn’t be able to get past the fourth clue without going there.

If the solution isn't ever released, we'll all have time to work on it when we get a chance over the years...... go BOTG...(enjoy the scenery/mountains/etc).....while 'checking' ideas... and sharing...

That is what they did with The Secret.....

[firesnake]

nkown thanks for showing what a carillon is, your place actually is capped with the star Polaris. A lot makes sense but is it too urban?

[heidini]

Jun 10, 2020 18:00:00 GMT -5 headinthesand said:

Jun 10, 2020 17:56:17 GMT -5 heidini said:

It has to be boots on the ground for someone to discover it. Even if we put together a consensus, we probably wouldn’t be able to get past the fourth clue without going there.

You people don't read:

Jenny, here's the blaze but I know the whole solve:

If you've been WISE and found the BLAZE,

The Helen Hunt Jackson Memorial at Seven Falls – Quote: "I shall be found with 'Indians' engraved on my BRAIN when I am dead.—A FIRE has been kindled within me which will never go out.” There is also a large “F” carved in the tree in front of the memorial. Read: “My Spanish Toy Factory.”

You people? Lol.

[Deleted]

Jun 10, 2020 17:00:45 GMT -5 Jenny said:

Is the Blaze still there.......This is one of the things I would like to know.


Forrest once said that the Blaze was not feasible to remove, and so I feel it most likely remains (but confirmation of such would be great), because since I feel the Blaze is what indicated the location of the Treasure Chest, a 'solution', of a consensus, and made by Group Effort, could be found.

This is what might need to happen... if for whatever reason the full solution/location cannnot be shared.

Based on what we know, it is likely that the statement "it would not be feasable to remove the blaze" is true, even now after the chest was retrieved. Probably a streak of quartz on a mountain.

[nkown]

Jun 10, 2020 17:59:50 GMT -5 firesnake said:

nkown thanks for showing what a carillon is, your place actually is capped with the star Polaris. A lot makes sense but is it too urban?

The USAFA is not urban.... it's in Colorado Springs. It's a beautiful mountain setting... Stanley Canyon is there (Stanley Marcus) at 7,500 ft of elevation (the cost of that painting in that SB), right at the end of 411 Drive (information please SB). 

If you open it up on Google Maps every name should jump out at you... not one or two, dozens... if you've read the Q&A's on this site, SB's, etc.

Remember that comment about WWIII destroying the treasure site?  I doubt Yellowstone is a target of ICBM's. I'm 100% sure the USAFA is. Odd comment right?

Google the USAFA Cornerstone + Waymarking and you'll see that President Kennedy gave a talk there that was released by JBB Enterprises... (Joe Billy Bob).  That Esmerelda is the name of Dal's car on HoD, and of course she was Quasimodo's friend and he guarded a bell tower.  She, btw, was a gypsy.  The bell tower plays music. Gypsy music.

Remember when Skippy blows himself up because he 'discharged' some fireworks and he said a lot in those 515 words?  Form 515 is the 'discharge' papers from the USAFA hospital.  

Ursa Major is the big bear (bears all over the SB's).  Ursa Minor is the little bear.  Polaris is the north star around which everything turns.  The carillon is positioned in such a way that on the fall solstice (which is intentionally mis-dated in a scrapbook) the shadow lines up perfectly east to west... only on that date. I figured that out using an app called the Photographers Ephemerus... and I found that app?  In a comment on HoD from an account that knew a bit too much.

This carillon is a bell tower...  Fenn mentions bells and bell towers throughout... but never the word Carillon. Never the state of Colorado.  But he does mention that a certain college in Colorado should have given him an honorary degree.  The USAFA is a college.

Once anyone starts looking at names you'll see that they are all right there... I've been reluctant to share this for quite a long time as I then turned to deciphering the poem with these places in mind.  I have many thoughts on how to do this... mirrored, skip-pi, phonically, solfege.  But I have yet to see any other place with exact word and name references:

•  Doolittle (hall)
•  Amelia Erhardt (statue) 
•  Falcon -- stadium and trail (not a human trail)
•  Parade Rd -- my hit parade
•  Pinion
•  411 Drive -- information please
•  Stanley Canyon
•  Deadman's Creek
•  Heavy Loads -- armaments everywhere, including his exact plane type
•  Waters High -- look above the USAFA and above Stanley Canyon
•  Polaris
•  Bell tower
•  Sneed and Demeret -- Match at the golf course
•  Oldes -- resting place
•  We Will Remember Them -- cited by Dal, plays on the carillon
•  Verdin castings -- google Fenn + Verdin.. that's who made the bells donated around the TC time
•  8.25 miles exactly from the Glenna Goodacre statue of Hap Arnold (General Solve, literally) to the Sante Fe trailhead -- 66k links
•  Gardiner's island... the whole place was Charles Gardiner's sanitarium, not Ahab's.
•  Woodmen road -- google benevolent society of Woodmen who owned the property -- Axe, Dove, Stump logo. Familiar?
•  When Fenn was asked if somewhere in WY rang any bells he replies, "What do you mean by ringing bells?"
•  Etc.

I've read a LOT of solves... I've never seen a single one that resolves to a place like all of these mentions from FF... and about 20 more.

What's more -- it makes sense.  It is literally guarded 24/7 from everything -- fires, vagrants, onlookers, etc... while being completely open to the public for much of it's space.  You can go out there and see no one for hours.  And it's a very, very special place... quiet, serene, and beautiful.

Remember that old Spanish lock mechanism video on this site that Jenny posted?  I believe that somewhere near that carillon there was a bronze commissioned that had a simple hidden mechanism.  FF flew from his one favorite spot to his final spot... the last flight of forrest fenn, alone... went the canyon down, not far but too far to walk (he flew) and landed at an FBO nearby.  Drove a sedan to the parking area of the USAFA cemetery where he shall return someday... and opened the hidden compartment, placed the chest in, and got the only food you can buy there publicly... oddly, a Subway sandwich.

He would know the chest is wet because bronze is cold to the touch, just like the statue of the Indian in Teachers with Ropes.  But inside it would condensate... cool nights, sunny days... and rain down on the chest.  Because of physics.

You would have to brave the cold... touch the bronze... just like those students in order to retrieve the chest.

Alas, I never did complete the whole poem... and never found that bronze.  But it's under a canopy of stars alright... a giant US flag right nearby.

[firesnake]

That is very impressive, I really do like it nkown. I imagined a base like that being scoured daily but perhaps it’s outside away from it, towards the western hills.

I’m take some time to look over what you’ve said because it ties in with so much of what Fenn wrote. Thank you for sharing that, appreciated.