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Post by Jenny on Jun 10, 2020 18:06:21 GMT -5
In effort to come to some sort of consensus on a state, can we list 'reasons' for Why New Mexico? What makes it possible, etc.... (I'll be creating a Thread for each State)
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jun 11, 2020 1:07:25 GMT -5
Thanks Jenny, this is a sensible approach. Per my other post, noted searcher Shaun Whitehead found some aberrations in the scrapbooks (mostly) that I think cannot be coincidence. Whether they are hints, we are not certain: creationeer.co.uk/treasure/forrest-fenns-odyssey-odditiesAnother possible confirmer to the area of the enchanted circle is that Taos ski valley used to be called 'Twining' in the gold-rush days. Not only does this tie-in with the tea-coloured mountains theme (it is a brand of tea, Twining was the name of an early tea merchant), but also Forrest's bizarre ball of string in TTOTC (twine = string, twining is a verb to plait string together, see also the 'thick braids' of the girl in the bookstore, possibly also teachers with ropes and tangled phone lines in scrapbooks). A ski valley fits with the notion that the third stanza refers to a gondola lift ride (albeit you can use this for any ski area with a gondola lift). Finally, there is a building in the ski-valley with a spire, a definite rarity in the Rockies! This seems to fit with 'my church is in the mountains' and, strangely, from some elevations you can make a *very* good facsimile of the famous painting 'Starry Night'. A warning here - I never found out when that building was built. It might just be a really weird coincidence. These seem to hint at the general area in NM. |
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Post by Jenny on Jun 11, 2020 5:56:03 GMT -5
Map in the book shows only New Mexico....
The first articles on the Chase mentioned only the state of New Mexico....
Forrest is known to have flown over areas, and then later searched the canyons here... and initially Forrest mentioned 'walking out into the desert'...
It is the state he lived in....
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jun 11, 2020 6:15:24 GMT -5
Map in the book shows only New Mexico.... The first articles on the Chase mentioned only the state of New Mexico.... Forrest is known to have flown over areas, and then later searched the canyons here... and initially Forrest mentioned 'walking out into the desert'... It is the state he lived in.... There's the argument that originally TTOTC was only available from Collected Works plus the instructions that the chest was (sob) located 'in the Rocky Mountains North of Santa Fe'. You'd be a rather annoyed Santa Fe resident if you bought the book and the chest turns up on the Canadian border, wouldn't you? There's also the logistics involved in Forrest taking the planned journey to the final resting place, which might sway us to the Southern states. There's the tea coloured mountains... I don't think these are fantastically compelling, just worth considering. |
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Post by edgewalker on Jun 13, 2020 13:30:50 GMT -5
Map in the book shows only New Mexico.... The first articles on the Chase mentioned only the state of New Mexico.... Forrest is known to have flown over areas, and then later searched the canyons here... and initially Forrest mentioned 'walking out into the desert'... It is the state he lived in.... There's the argument that originally TTOTC was only available from Collected Works plus the instructions that the chest was (sob) located 'in the Rocky Mountains North of Santa Fe'. You'd be a rather annoyed Santa Fe resident if you bought the book and the chest turns up on the Canadian border, wouldn't you? There's also the logistics involved in Forrest taking the planned journey to the final resting place, which might sway us to the Southern states. There's the tea coloured mountains... I don't think these are fantastically compelling, just worth considering. Well, just to throw a curve ball. What if Santa Fe is to hide the meaning of two words, a puzzle in itself. Santa - fatman (think Wimpy's Diner reference). Fe -peiodic table symbol for iron. Santa Fe refereing to the atomic bomb Fatman. This leads you to WhiteSands site further south in New Mexico opening up some great fit ideas rarely mentioned. I like ideas outside of where everyone else seems to be looking. I think one of our commonly held beliefs about the rules will be wrong. Above 5000 feet could be above or north of a graveyard where 2500 people are buried. So many ways to interpret things Forrest said but we seem to have firm beliefs that have become laws to us about the search area. |
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Post by Timberwolf on Jun 13, 2020 20:15:47 GMT -5
NM all the way!
A dying person who has suffered enough to end their life, instead of going to a hospital to die slowly, would not travel far in a critically ill condition. They would want to get it done quickly before changing their mind.
His final resting place would be close to Peggy.
In the mountains north of Santa Fe is the original location given by Fenn. He changed that to the Rocky Mountains because many people were looking in NM and he wanted to increase the search area. Maybe to make it harder or take longer to find.
He ruled out Jellystone.
He talked too much about Jellystone in TTOTC for it to be a subtle hint.
Colorado was never even mentioned in TTOTC.
He knew northern NM very well. Ex. Local world class fly fishing, many local artists, lots business travel, maybe even some camping and or hiking(?).
The map in the TTOTC was northern NM.
He truly seemed to love northern New Mexico.
Northern NM is beautiful. Especially before all the big fires.
-TW
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Post by goldilocks on Jun 14, 2020 12:03:15 GMT -5
The most compelling and simplest reason for me is that it is closest to home. More often than not, the "scene of a crime" in a mystery is close to home, a very small perimeter actually. New Mexico is a place he could monitor the chest if he needed to.
other reasons:
-has an X in the name
-me in the middle
-state amphibian is a toad with bulging eyes
-state tree pinion pine
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Post by ILLUMINATINPS on Jun 14, 2020 12:41:19 GMT -5
Ill add to this the ever important chapter of tea with Olga, who seems parallel Fenn in terms of sickness, death and the final resting place. the colors of Tea could either be symbolic to life, death, and after life. They also could be literal hints as those 3 colors represent mountains around the eagle nest area, specifically Green Mountain which has a road the goes up that resembles flames when seen from Google maps.
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Post by nica on Jun 14, 2020 13:17:25 GMT -5
That road on GREEN Mtn. Was the blaze.
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Post by hoosierdaddy on Jun 14, 2020 14:39:46 GMT -5
In effort to come to some sort of consensus on a state, can we list 'reasons' for Why New Mexico? What makes it possible, etc.... (I'll be creating a Thread for each State)
The line "I can keep my secret where, and hint of riches new and old" anagrams to: "Wheeler Peak, Find chest hidden sweet Cimarron Canyon." What more proof do you need?
Jenny, I'm in the process of anagramming Fenn's, "The treasure has been found," statement. And I was wondering if you would forward these questions to him: What influence did Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, have on you life? Was he the primary influence on your work? Did you aspire to be a modern day Goethe?
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