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Post by sangre on Jun 14, 2020 14:09:21 GMT -5
Since the chase has ended, I've felt like I've been hit by a train, then pummeled by a gorilla and then ran over by a steam roller. Devastation mixed with intermittent feelings of nauseating confusion - at first I thought I was trapped in a bad dream. How many of us confidently believed in our solves? Many of us still do. It’s agonizing to not know if we were right or wrong.
I really wanted to see this puzzle solved. I'm the type of person who is constantly searching for answers. This search became an obsession for me. I had to let go of some attachments to the chase in hopes of someone responding and potentially progressing this relentless hunt looking for answers.
But I have come to realize that there was something more that Forrest has taught us. I think he called it higher knowledge, or maybe he didn't give a name to it. He wrote about it in TTOTC in the chapter My War For Me. It is the understanding that there exists in each one of us the ability to use our imaginations to intend our reality. He also teaches the overall message of peace existing in ourselves, our minds, between how we treat each other and peace between nations.
Moreover, there is another message to be seen within the concept of giving freely without attachment. And that is what Forrest has done. He gave away a treasure chest without any sort of attachments other than wanting his bracelet back. Shouldn't this message be payed forward somehow? What is left for the next generations of treasure hunters? The true treasures in life comes from within. If no further evidence comes out to show where the chest was found or who found it, then we can each continue to imagine different scenarios. Different timelines. We may even come to the realization that time is not linear and that we have the ability to intend multiple different scenarios occurring simultaneously and depending on how we intend that will determine our own reality right now. We each live in this void of potential, the ever-unfolding present moment that is now. And each one is as important as the all. We may not have found a physical treasure chest hidden in the Rockies, but we have each gained individual knowledge and guidance from how we interpreted the poem and if we continue to utilize our imagination, our thoughts will control our reality. Each one of us has the ability to manifest something positive from the outcome of this chase no matter what happens or what information is or isn’t revealed. So we can all take that moral message of positivity to be our guide and go in peace! ☮️
Ty
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 14, 2020 15:13:51 GMT -5
There were a few things I learned as I worked the hints.
One is that, as I read about peoples of the past, it became evident that we (people) really are all the same. The similarities between ancient peoples, the beginnings as it were, are all the same. That's where we came from, sameness. From every part of the world, every culture, every race.
Another is the quest for liberty and justice. Every culture went through this. Every culture is still trying to finish this quest. Which in my opinion is the prime reason that we are here. God is the greatest teacher of all. It bothers me that there's so much pain in the world, but there's no other way.
And that pain leads to another thing. Compassion. Without it, we are dead in the water.
There have also been many things that are related to the sciences that I learned more about.
Specifics, like astronomy, biology, etc.
And then there's history. There are lessons in that, which we must not forget or we are "doomed to repeat" our mistakes.
It's strange that we are here, at this point in time, with all that is going on, that this quest is seemingly ending. Right now. The lessons taught by this quest are so pertinent to our troubles of today.
And yet, our answers must be carefully thought out. It does no good to destroy and tear down. The path is in building onto, advancing, not starting over. (My opinion, if you don't mind.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 17:48:59 GMT -5
There were a few things I learned as I worked the hints. One is that, as I read about peoples of the past, it became evident that we (people) really are all the same. The similarities between ancient peoples, the beginnings as it were, are all the same. That's where we came from, sameness. From every part of the world, every culture, every race. Another is the quest for liberty and justice. Every culture went through this. Every culture is still trying to finish this quest. Which in my opinion is the prime reason that we are here. God is the greatest teacher of all. It bothers me that there's so much pain in the world, but there's no other way. And that pain leads to another thing. Compassion. Without it, we are dead in the water. There have also been many things that are related to the sciences that I learned more about. Specifics, like astronomy, biology, etc. And then there's history. There are lessons in that, which we must not forget or we are "doomed to repeat" our mistakes. It's strange that we are here, at this point in time, with all that is going on, that this quest is seemingly ending. Right now. The lessons taught by this quest are so pertinent to our troubles of today. And yet, our answers must be carefully thought out. It does no good to destroy and tear down. The path is in building onto, advancing, not starting over. (My opinion, if you don't mind.) Ok so to summarize: treasure hunt > people are equal, compassion, pain in world, existentialism, be constructive, mistakes in history. Even though Fenn said no knowledge of history is required to solve it? You say you didnt know that before, but Forrest Fenns treasure hunt of all things made you realize that? I bet people told you you appeared pretentious when you told them that? I will be absolutely honest, I learned only special knowledge. History of Aldridge, Joseph Meek, Yellowstone, Old Yellowstone Highway markers. I am a minimalist so I think people are okay if they are just honest and polite. Don't need the tonality of an indian chief to achieve any of that. |
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 14, 2020 18:49:35 GMT -5
There were a few things I learned as I worked the hints. One is that, as I read about peoples of the past, it became evident that we (people) really are all the same. The similarities between ancient peoples, the beginnings as it were, are all the same. That's where we came from, sameness. From every part of the world, every culture, every race. Another is the quest for liberty and justice. Every culture went through this. Every culture is still trying to finish this quest. Which in my opinion is the prime reason that we are here. God is the greatest teacher of all. It bothers me that there's so much pain in the world, but there's no other way. And that pain leads to another thing. Compassion. Without it, we are dead in the water. There have also been many things that are related to the sciences that I learned more about. Specifics, like astronomy, biology, etc. And then there's history. There are lessons in that, which we must not forget or we are "doomed to repeat" our mistakes. It's strange that we are here, at this point in time, with all that is going on, that this quest is seemingly ending. Right now. The lessons taught by this quest are so pertinent to our troubles of today. And yet, our answers must be carefully thought out. It does no good to destroy and tear down. The path is in building onto, advancing, not starting over. (My opinion, if you don't mind.) Ok so to summarize: treasure hunt > people are equal, compassion, pain in world, existentialism, be constructive, mistakes in history. Even though Fenn said no knowledge of history is required to solve it? You say you didnt know that before, but Forrest Fenns treasure hunt of all things made you realize that? I bet people told you you appeared pretentious when you told them that? I will be absolutely honest, I learned only special knowledge. History of Aldridge, Joseph Meek, Yellowstone, Old Yellowstone Highway markers. I am a minimalist so I think people are okay if they are just honest and polite. Don't need the tonality of an indian chief to achieve any of that. No, I never said I learned those ideals in the chase. I said I learned that history shows those ideals to be valid. At least that's what I was trying to say. It obviously didn't work for you. Indian chief, eh? Thanks for the compliment. |
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Post by sangre on Jun 14, 2020 21:30:44 GMT -5
I never would have looked into Norse mythology or the runes if it weren’t for TTOTC. And that has been a life changing experience for me. I’m not sure what exactly sent me down that path but what comes to mind is “ ...praying thanks to Thor because he was holding my hand and smiling. My father I mean." Just because Forrest said “No specialized knowledge is required” doesn’t mean we can’t say we gained deeper appreciation for the esoteric things. But if you want to believe that, that’s perfectly fine with me. I appreciate and welcome your comments. And because history does have a tendency to repeat itself, I have a gut feeling that we have heard this story before.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 21:41:00 GMT -5
It obviously didn't work for you. What, exactly? I suspect it is an Ad Hominem but I will give you a chance. I suspect the conclusion you are drawing will prove to be hasty and incorrect once again. I am surprised the chase didn't also have to do with world peace, eternal wisdom and indian chiefs crying over human vanity. Or did it? And to think some people were looking for waters of a certain temperature and speed, and for a place which might be said to be a residence of a certain color! They are obviously not very sophisticated! Bah! |
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 14, 2020 22:15:37 GMT -5
It obviously didn't work for you. What, exactly? I suspect it is an Ad Hominem but I will give you a chance. I suspect the conclusion you are drawing will prove to be hasty and incorrect once again. I am surprised the chase didn't also have to do with world peace, eternal wisdom and indian chiefs crying over human vanity. Or did it? And to think some people were looking for waters of a certain temperature and speed, and for a place which might be said to be a residence of a certain color! They are obviously not very sophisticated! Bah! Skatt, you seem to be looking for a fight, and I'm not going to give you one. This is as far as I go with this particular conversation. I'll still read your other posts. They have been interesting. |
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Post by heidini on Jun 14, 2020 22:23:22 GMT -5
There were a few things I learned as I worked the hints. One is that, as I read about peoples of the past, it became evident that we (people) really are all the same. The similarities between ancient peoples, the beginnings as it were, are all the same. That's where we came from, sameness. From every part of the world, every culture, every race. Another is the quest for liberty and justice. Every culture went through this. Every culture is still trying to finish this quest. Which in my opinion is the prime reason that we are here. God is the greatest teacher of all. It bothers me that there's so much pain in the world, but there's no other way. And that pain leads to another thing. Compassion. Without it, we are dead in the water. There have also been many things that are related to the sciences that I learned more about. Specifics, like astronomy, biology, etc. And then there's history. There are lessons in that, which we must not forget or we are "doomed to repeat" our mistakes. It's strange that we are here, at this point in time, with all that is going on, that this quest is seemingly ending. Right now. The lessons taught by this quest are so pertinent to our troubles of today. And yet, our answers must be carefully thought out. It does no good to destroy and tear down. The path is in building onto, advancing, not starting over. (My opinion, if you don't mind.) Ok so to summarize: treasure hunt > people are equal, compassion, pain in world, existentialism, be constructive, mistakes in history. Even though Fenn said no knowledge of history is required to solve it? You say you didnt know that before, but Forrest Fenns treasure hunt of all things made you realize that? I bet people told you you appeared pretentious when you told them that? I will be absolutely honest, I learned only special knowledge. History of Aldridge, Joseph Meek, Yellowstone, Old Yellowstone Highway markers. I am a minimalist so I think people are okay if they are just honest and polite. Don't need the tonality of an indian chief to achieve any of that. don’t talk to people in that manner- “pretentious”, etc. It does sound like you are looking for a fight. Discussions are great but don’t try to insult anyone. |
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 14, 2020 22:29:28 GMT -5
I never would have looked into Norse mythology or the runes if it weren’t for TTOTC. And that has been a life changing experience for me. I’m not sure what exactly sent me down that path but what comes to mind is “ ...praying thanks to Thor because he was holding my hand and smiling. My father I mean." Just because Forrest said “No specialized knowledge is required” doesn’t mean we can’t say we gained deeper appreciation for the esoteric things. But if you want to believe that, that’s perfectly fine with me. I appreciate and welcome your comments. And because history does have a tendency to repeat itself, I have a gut feeling that we have heard this story before. There's also: - Minerva to ancient Rome, which is closely related to ancient Greek. - Moses to the ancient Hebrews. - Thoth to ancient Egypt. And others, but I don't remember the specifics right now. Some hints were of something other than a person or deity. The origins of a type of plant, or things like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 2:33:49 GMT -5
What, exactly? I suspect it is an Ad Hominem but I will give you a chance. I suspect the conclusion you are drawing will prove to be hasty and incorrect once again. I am surprised the chase didn't also have to do with world peace, eternal wisdom and indian chiefs crying over human vanity. Or did it? And to think some people were looking for waters of a certain temperature and speed, and for a place which might be said to be a residence of a certain color! They are obviously not very sophisticated! Bah! Skatt, you seem to be looking for a fight, and I'm not going to give you one. This is as far as I go with this particular conversation. I'll still read your other posts. They have been interesting. I dont know why you would assume that anyone would be looking for a fight with a stranger they dont even know. Even though there are indeed people exhibiting such dysfunctional behavior, it is usually obvious from the mere spelling and use of ShIFt!!!!!!!!! Isnt it more likely that my comment was made because I actually thought the post was made out of pretentiousness? I.e. that the poster appeared to have the intention to portray himself in a certain manner rather than to openly adress the actual topic? Which would actually constitute Ad Hominem, although not in the common way. I am sorry if this was not clear and I hope the issue is somewhat clearer now. |
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Post by sangre on Jun 15, 2020 13:57:22 GMT -5
I never would have looked into Norse mythology or the runes if it weren’t for TTOTC. And that has been a life changing experience for me. I’m not sure what exactly sent me down that path but what comes to mind is “ ...praying thanks to Thor because he was holding my hand and smiling. My father I mean." Just because Forrest said “No specialized knowledge is required” doesn’t mean we can’t say we gained deeper appreciation for the esoteric things. But if you want to believe that, that’s perfectly fine with me. I appreciate and welcome your comments. And because history does have a tendency to repeat itself, I have a gut feeling that we have heard this story before. There's also: - Minerva to ancient Rome, which is closely related to ancient Greek. - Moses to the ancient Hebrews. - Thoth to ancient Egypt. And others, but I don't remember the specifics right now. Some hints were of something other than a person or deity. The origins of a type of plant, or things like that. I see what you’re saying. It’s a theme represented in many ancient cultures that probably goes back to Paleolithic times. Wisdom passed along through generational inheritance. Eric Sloane wrote about the “seek no further” apple tree in his book A Reverence for Wood. Forrest continued to hint at this theme while watering his trees, placing leaves in books, or taking a stroll in his yard (Midgard - earth ) with his dog Willie (Vili in old Norse means “will”). I don’t know if any of this stuff really matters. It was just on my mind. What I found interesting was that the Norse had the same concept woven into their mythology- the Yew tree had meaning to them - it was the symbol for generational inheritance- the Yew tree would dig its branches into the earth to create new life. Much like the story Eric Sloane and Forrest were conveying through some of their writing. Does that not seem interesting to anyone? I don’t know. I wasn’t sure if anyone would even care about my ramblings. And it appears to me that my topic has caused more strife than it has been a catalyst for discussion. But anyways, wasn’t there supposed to be a mystery to unlock? Forrest said that there’s a story and it’s significant and that he will leave that up to the finder to tell that story. I’m just trying to put my mind at ease in believing that somehow this is part of that story. Who knows? As Forrest wrote in Seventeen Dollars A Square Inch: “Mighty oaks from little acorns slowly grow Then finally fall and wisp to naught, But those who plant a seed of words Live on in groves of human thought.” |
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Post by goldwatch on Jun 15, 2020 14:55:01 GMT -5
There's also: - Minerva to ancient Rome, which is closely related to ancient Greek. - Moses to the ancient Hebrews. - Thoth to ancient Egypt. And others, but I don't remember the specifics right now. Some hints were of something other than a person or deity. The origins of a type of plant, or things like that. I see what you’re saying. It’s a theme represented in many ancient cultures that probably goes back to Paleolithic times. Wisdom passed along through generational inheritance. Eric Sloane wrote about the “seek no further” apple tree in his book A Reverence for Wood. Forrest continued to hint at this theme while watering his trees, placing leaves in books, or taking a stroll in his yard (Midgard - earth ) with his dog Willie (Vili in old Norse means “will”). I don’t know if any of this stuff really matters. It was just on my mind. What I found interesting was that the Norse had the same concept woven into their mythology- the Yew tree had meaning to them - it was the symbol for generational inheritance- the Yew tree would dig its branches into the earth to create new life. Much like the story Eric Sloane and Forrest were conveying through some of their writing. Does that not seem interesting to anyone? I don’t know. I wasn’t sure if anyone would even care about my ramblings. And it appears to me that my topic has caused more strife than it has been a catalyst for discussion. But anyways, wasn’t there supposed to be a mystery to unlock? Forrest said that there’s a story and it’s significant and that he will leave that up to the finder to tell that story. I’m just trying to put my mind at ease in believing that somehow this is part of that story. Who knows? As Forrest wrote in Seventeen Dollars A Square Inch: “Mighty oaks from little acorns slowly grow Then finally fall and wisp to naught, But those who plant a seed of words Live on in groves of human thought.” Yes, I think this stuff offers a long trail that both reveals the origins of human thought and the sameness of mankind, and also solves to this fantastic quest. I think that's the story, basically, but also includes mankind's quest for liberty and justice for all as a part of that big picture, which in all is the main story of mankind's evolvement. The "fact" (in my opinion and solve) that these two aspects coincide within this quest for Indulgence says that's the reason for this story. Again, my opinion. This story, I believe, is well represented by our Native Americans and their history. And you could write this story, removes the names and places, and substitute any other from any part of the world, and it would work just as well. I could tell a lot of specifics, but then I'd have to give away parts of my solve. I'm not sure that I should do that yet. I'm just twisting in the winds for now, feeling a bit wrung out. |
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