HOW

[banjo]

Does anyone have an inkling as to HOW it was hidden, derived from the poem alone? I guess this would be my biggest curiosity, if I could ask F one question.

[Jenny]

With the lines 'your quest to cease', it seemed to suggest that once the Blaze was found, you would at least do some looking/(questing) at the exact spot for the chest...... meaning it was 'hidden' in some way for sure and not just sitting some where. As for exactly 'how'.... probably only the finder and Forrest knows.... But it is a question that 'could' be answered.

[Deleted]

I've always seen "found" as meaning to establish or create. But I see the poem as multi-layered, and the layer where you would establish would be in the imagination or decoding later, then in the other layer it is of course physical. IOOW if there are billions of blazes we want the one we "found". Then, like you said once we arrive at the physical spot we need to do some more questing (which might involve the things we became wise to in-situ).

[annie]

Jul 18, 2020 18:17:09 GMT -5 banjo said:

Does anyone have an inkling as to HOW it was hidden, derived from the poem alone? I guess this would be my biggest curiosity, if I could ask F one question.

I always imagined the chest was hidden in some type of Adobe covering (natural materials, not man made structure). As in put in below the ‘home’ of Brown. A home is an abode. 
The ‘look quickly down ‘ line is referring to something else. I believe the hiding spot is told in the last stanza of the poem.

‘If you are brave and in the wood’ =  U R    B O L D  & ELDER. = Boulder Field

[dean]

I like the idea of "found the blaze" meaning you create the blaze. Maybe you roll a rock off a tempting looking pile and it completes a picture.

[kp]

“Found the blaze” could mean
“load/complete the boat”. A “found” ship is one that is fully ready to go to sea. In our solve, 2 poem clues led us to our blaze. First, “there’ll be no paddle up your creek” was the “riddle” that needed solved by a logical person in a logical way...with “paddle” being the word that is key. Answer: if you are up a creek WITHOUT a paddle, by association, you still are WITH your boat. So, in our solve, Boat Mountain was our blaze which you already found when you put in below Hebgen dam. As you walk up your creek (Madison tailwater) you have Boat Mountain at your back guiding you towards the heavy loads and water high of Hebgen Lake/dam. Our location was under a large 60’ pine tree On a 15 foot ledge part way up the left bank. It was surrounded by dozens of small rocks...probably from the Quake in ‘59. I flipped over lots of those rocks just before Memorial Day this year; but alas came home empty. Thoughts???

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2020 20:50:00 GMT -5 kp said:

“Found the blaze” could mean
“load/complete the boat”. A “found” ship is one that is fully ready to go to sea. In our solve, 2 poem clues led us to our blaze. First, “there’ll be no paddle up your creek” was the “riddle” that needed solved by a logical person in a logical way...with “paddle” being the word that is key. Answer: if you are up a creek WITHOUT a paddle, by association, you still are WITH your boat. So, in our solve, Boat Mountain was our blaze which you already found when you put in below Hebgen dam. As you walk up your creek (Madison tailwater) you have Boat Mountain at your back guiding you towards the heavy loads and water high of Hebgen Lake/dam. Our location was under a large 60’ pine tree On a 15 foot ledge part way up the left bank. It was surrounded by dozens of small rocks...probably from the Quake in ‘59. I flipped over lots of those rocks just before Memorial Day this year; but alas came home empty. Thoughts???

I've never agreed with any of the solves in West Yellowstone.  They are usually the ones new searchers come up with because he names those places, which to me rules them out.   If he would have hid it anywhere near Hebgen lake, it would have been found within days or weeks of when he hid it.  Thats the low hanging fruit everyone went for millions of times, same with anything near Eagles nest in NM or anything related to Molly Brown (or dino park/browns park) in CO.

[kp]

And many agree with you...but do recall that EARLY on several searchers were within 500 and 200 feet and those were just those very few people who communicated with ff with pictures. And as most who go BOTG know...you could walk 5’ from the TC and easily miss it anywhere in the Rockies. Without a blaze I would guess Dozens of searchers have walked within 10 or 20 feet of the TC over the past 10 years. It’s a place ff loved and cherished (I think he proposed to Peggy there) and he was surprised that no one was “around” “anywhere” when he hid the chest. So he was able to get into his hidey spot without anyone seeing him. Just IMO. If not Hebgen, it was still a well known general area...but still an isolated “hidey spot”. IMO

[Deleted]

Yeah but I can name a million places that fit the criteria. A solve needs to be built around the poem, not forced to fit areas based on speculation. This is why it wasn't found for 10 years.

[jdiggins]

Jul 21, 2020 7:37:10 GMT -5 hillbillyhound said:

I believe his use of the word “secret” in the poem tells us the chest was buried. He wrote a book entitled “The Secrets of San Lazaro” about the Pueblo he’s been excavating. San Lazaro’s secrets have been buried for 100s of years. I think he was trying to tell us in the poem that his “secret” was also buried.

Secret can mean 'set apart'. He did say the blaze was anything that stands out...

[indigojones]

Jul 22, 2020 11:04:57 GMT -5 jdiggins said:

Jul 21, 2020 7:37:10 GMT -5 hillbillyhound said:

I believe his use of the word “secret” in the poem tells us the chest was buried. He wrote a book entitled “The Secrets of San Lazaro” about the Pueblo he’s been excavating. San Lazaro’s secrets have been buried for 100s of years. I think he was trying to tell us in the poem that his “secret” was also buried.

Secret can mean 'set apart'. He did say the blaze was anything that stands out...

The Book of Revelation where the phrase Alpha and Omega comes from may be worth remembering.

Revelation means: to make something known that was secret. "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end". The two Omegas in the colophon relate to the two ends of the rainbow, the beginning and the end. My solution begins with the rainbow and ends with the rainbow, it is very clear cut IMO. As an aside the circular cistern at Adelaide really does stand out, you cannot miss it.