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Post by cvsnipe05 on Sept 6, 2020 9:05:15 GMT -5
cvsnipe05 says "the audio"..."sounds much better when reversed" Does it sound like this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=evLz_f3C6Zc--------- Jenny said; "so how many feel we need additional text/lyrics to solve the 'code'" At this stage, It probably doesn't need extra explanation - except the opals, that's hard to understand - are they part of the puzzle or just colorful window dressing? Opals, during the time the 'New World' was called that, came from Slovakia, so opals don't have any apparent linkage to the 'New World'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opal Personally, no I don't think it sound like the song linked above but that doesn't mean it couldn't be as I have only tried to adjust for speed and not pitch or tone. I think it vaguely resembles Dvorak's From the New World; I've listened to the whole symphony a few times and, as efanton mentioned, the closest sounding part is Mvmt #2. I don't think it is an exact match but again, there are so many different combinations of speed and tone and pitch that I can't, with any air of confidence, completely rule it out. Sorting through all of the combinations will be somewhat of a large undertaking; having said that, I would have to get back to you on my findings.
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Post by elysethecat on Sept 6, 2020 21:13:06 GMT -5
I can try and help with the song identification if anyone with the proper computer tools to slow, reverse, and tweak the song wants to partner up. Just putting it out there! I have a theory about the cipher, but I don't have the recording studio-style skills to alter the music, and all of my professional musician/studio producer pals are ignoring my pleas for help!
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Post by tab on Oct 6, 2020 19:10:53 GMT -5
I am thinking that once the music is identified, you’ll be able to use song’s sheet music 🎼 and align the numbers to the musical notes. The sheet music might be the “text” of the cipher. Each music note has a letter that corresponds to it. But I cannot figure out how the symbols in the sixes and nine figure into this. I’m sending this thought out there for anyone to build on.
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Post by susb8383 on Oct 8, 2020 6:35:06 GMT -5
Personally I don’t think the music is anything that can be identified. I think the author created it. That’s just my theory.
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Post by tifftiff0101 on Oct 8, 2020 17:29:06 GMT -5
I can try and help with the song identification if anyone with the proper computer tools to slow, reverse, and tweak the song wants to partner up. Just putting it out there! I have a theory about the cipher, but I don't have the recording studio-style skills to alter the music, and all of my professional musician/studio producer pals are ignoring my pleas for help! I can do it!
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Post by tab on Oct 9, 2020 20:51:37 GMT -5
Someone clever with cryptics might be able to work out the message without the reference text. I doubt I’m that person, but I did notice a few things that might help. Near the end, 30 appears twice. If 30=o, then the first word might be “to” or “go”. You’d have to experiment with different words to see if anything works, like to discover, or to claim, etc. There are more than 26 unique numbers, so some letters will be represented by more than one number. And, according to the internet, “that” is the most common four-letter word, so the 32 45 17 32 sequence might be “that”.
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Post by tab on Oct 9, 2020 21:17:37 GMT -5
On the you tube clip, the author’s name is Niamo Speck. And author said on that platform the prize is so dear, no further clues will be given. Whoever needs it will win it. (paraphrased). I googled, but could not find anything on Niamo Speck, although perhaps the name is an anagram.
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Post by cat on Nov 4, 2020 21:37:51 GMT -5
I got something that wasn’t completely useless as a message using the Beale method. Was this ever solved? If so, what was the prize? Sorry I discovered it so late (if I got it right) but (if I didn’t) I have a useful way to design a puzzle of my own! 😁
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Post by cat on Nov 5, 2020 20:28:05 GMT -5
I tried with the Declaration of Independence — since the reference was assumed to be a Beale Cipher, but after letting things sit for a while don’t think that is the answer. I even wrote down the whole word — checking to see if it was the word itself, or the second to the last letter in. I also tested this to the second letter against the Periodic Table — but haven’t looked at the last letters yet.
Also, if the name is an anagram, I believe you can get “MAINE, SP” with “OCK” left over. If you are willing to reduce MAINE to “ME” you can get NSP (National State Park) at that point with “AI” leftover too. I do think this hunt may be in that way like those of the original “Treasure Trove.”
In closing, I think the “face” in the 9 may actually be a curly “x” as in “x marks the spot”. So, if you found the original text to put it against, the 9th word might be “exact” or “extra” — and also double as a map designation. (This was done for the Beale Papers’ Cipher 2.)
By the way, did we ever decide how to read the title itself?
Is it “A Piece of the New World” or “A Piece O(pal) of the New Wo(pal)rld (Opal)”?
Just thinking aloud ...
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Post by cat on Nov 6, 2020 9:52:00 GMT -5
Think I found the Music: it is from “The Lord of the Rings”. The reason I say this is because I looked up Speck with the possibility of the individual being a fictional character — but found 1) there was a “Naomi” who was an editor for Tolkien, and there is a fan-based, Pinterest site under the “Naomi Speck” name with a picture of the gemstone features in “The Hobbit” (among other photos). It was then I listened to the music, and thought they might be the same. I immediately tried the “One Ring” poem with a Caesar shift and then a Beale — but no luck on either (yet). I will continue to work even though I am not a “Boots on the Ground” hunter of much expertise.
Best blessings to everyone else in the hunt, and hope I am not sending people on a wild goose chase that I myself think legitimate...
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Post by cat on Nov 6, 2020 10:02:36 GMT -5
PS: The pictures were of the characters, and in afterthought I wondered if the first letters of their names might spell out anything (or some variation thereof ...)
Hopefully more to report soon!
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Post by DagobertKusanagi on Nov 11, 2020 17:32:45 GMT -5
Think I found the Music: it is from “The Lord of the Rings”. The reason I say this is because I looked up Speck with the possibility of the individual being a fictional character — but found 1) there was a “Naomi” who was an editor for Tolkien, and there is a fan-based, Pinterest site under the “Naomi Speck” name with a picture of the gemstone features in “The Hobbit” (among other photos). It was then I listened to the music, and thought they might be the same. I immediately tried the “One Ring” poem with a Caesar shift and then a Beale — but no luck on either (yet). I will continue to work even though I am not a “Boots on the Ground” hunter of much expertise. Best blessings to everyone else in the hunt, and hope I am not sending people on a wild goose chase that I myself think legitimate... — Cat The work here is great, the only problem I have is that the creators "name" is Niamo Speck, not Naomi. If we anagram to get Naomi, it would stand to reason to also anagram Speck (I assume it is a total anagram using both names, not individually). I have also listened to over 4 hours of LotR soundtracks and haven't found a match. I have isolated the video music and can confirm there is no soundwave encryption, and nothing else embedded in it. I will be working on manipulating the song (reverse playback, pitch, tone, speed, etc.). What I am most interested in now, though is that the linked image in the Google Doc is a PNG with a well over-sized transparent background. I am curious why the image (already large in itself) needed to be placed on such a huge invisible background. Perhaps the total dimensions are important?
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Post by Jenny on Nov 11, 2020 19:07:20 GMT -5
Edited title....
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Post by susb8383 on Nov 14, 2020 7:39:36 GMT -5
I noticed the name of Niamo too. Which is why I don’t think the name is an anagram. If you were going to anagram something into a name, why would you spell the real name of Naomi differently but use the same letters?
So...either Niamo is truly just a misspelling of Naomi in which case the full name probably is an anagram, or Niamo means something in itself.
In Googling I found that niamo is a word in the language spoken in parts of the Philippines which means our. Our Speck?
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Post by cvsnipe05 on Nov 14, 2020 10:36:54 GMT -5
I haven’t worked much on this one as it seems to be more in-depth than I have time for at the moment. That being said, I don’t think I’ve found anything of importance and some of the things listed are obviously/more than likely not relevant but ruling out things is always a good idea in my opinion so, I’ll drop the notes I do have in the event it sparks some thought: Anagrams: - MAKO SPINCE (no leftovers)- Character in Dark Empire, Star Wars Comic Series - AMOS PIKE (leftovers:EC) - CHARACTER ON LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE TV SHOW, MAYBE REFERENCE TO USE BOOK - I AM SPOCK (leftovers:NE) - LEONARD NIMOY'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY - A SPOKEN MIC (no leftovers) - ? Reversed audio in Audacity... still couldn't identify anything w/ Shazam but it sounded more uniform and smooth than the original audio in the video. Haven’t been able to find recognizable song or part of a song with attempts to speed up or slow down or change pitch. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speck_(cipher)Speck - is a family of lightweight block ciphers publicly released by the National Security Agency (NSA) in June 2013. Speck has been optimized for performance in software implementations, while its sister algorithm, Simon, has been optimized for hardware implementations. Speck is an add–rotate–xor (ARX) cipher. Possible texts to use: - Brave New World by Aldous Huxley - Dark Empire (Star Wars comic) [see anagram] - www.americanmusicpreservation.com/GoinHome.htm- Symphony No. 9, The New World Symphony - Dvorak - Ama Niamo - Our Father in Bicol/Tagalog - The Lord's Prayer in Bicol - Niamo - by us, of us - Our—exclusive of person spoken to. - music clip in hunt video doesn’t not match up to choral piece ‘Ama Niamo’ as far as I can tell... maybe different composers or versions? - Mundus Novus by Amerigo Vespucci - Famous first paragraph? - Text length: 740 - Word count: 177 - The novel “Anne of Geierstein” gave opal a reputation of being unlucky. - Anne of Geierstein by Sir Walter Scott
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