dalby2020
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Post by dalby2020 on Nov 13, 2020 19:13:27 GMT -5
A collection of phrases I found interesting:
crossed paths open your eyes stay right on my tail in my time back down and sorted found a shape for it the eagle tailed me drop the goods and find a den blame my nose or feet looking at the sky tiny figures by my nose it nurtures a trace those inconsistencies of character can lead to trouble sniffed out a dwelling I'll just sit a spell past the timber line catching at the edge back through the journey line by line I could see the edge we were on top sliding past the curve folding for the plunge something pressed up underneath
I think there's enough pointing to following lines from some combinations of eyes - feet - tail. Perhaps something must also be traced (nurtures a trace; pressed up underneath). And, as per the other thread, folding might be involved (shape; edge; folding).
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dalby2020
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Post by dalby2020 on Nov 13, 2020 19:24:20 GMT -5
Random stuff from one of my notebook pages:
Switch U and I in some code. Plot paths and look for crossing points. Roll up or fold images. Look for something on the right side of the tail. Mean (average) of numbers. Sorted numbers or letters. Reoccurring shape. Circle - center - ray. Columns and rows (rose). Nose, feet, eyes, tail. Misspelling of words. Border letters that are inconsistent. Tiny numbers or letters somewhere. Colors, brown, red. Maze. Odd vs even numbers. Traces. Exponents, powers. Rounding up or down. Number or letter shifts; table. All directions. Highest point = highest total. Math: points, curve, intercept, scattered. Chance, probability, roll, dice. Edge, Bound.
Never got too far though!
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Post by willfish on Nov 13, 2020 19:37:21 GMT -5
Hey everyone....have been working on this hunt for years, but first time posting....we have to figure this out!!!!! Have been working on the start/end dates....wondering why Pel would so specifically put a start date...does it matter when the hunt started....i think it's significant....any thoughts? The start date is June 29 2007 ( 6-29) and end date Nov. 26 2020 (11-26) the difference between those dates is 497 which alpha numerically is DIG...even though we know we cant actually dig...or could they be significant because of a verbal clue such as "6 to 9" which is 3 and "11 to 6" which is 5... also, would anyone be interested in doing a zoom call next week so we could all share our ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 22:06:27 GMT -5
Hey everyone....have been working on this hunt for years, but first time posting....we have to figure this out!!!!! Have been working on the start/end dates....wondering why Pel would so specifically put a start date...does it matter when the hunt started....i think it's significant....any thoughts? The start date is June 29 2007 ( 6-29) and end date Nov. 26 2020 (11-26) the difference between those dates is 497 which alpha numerically is DIG...even though we know we cant actually dig...or could they be significant because of a verbal clue such as "6 to 9" which is 3 and "11 to 6" which is 5... also, would anyone be interested in doing a zoom call next week so we could all share our ideas? Hi Willfish- The fact that the start and end dates were precisely identified has been discussed in the past. At one point is was noted that exactly 4,900 days will elapse between them. If you want to verify, don't forget to take into account the leap years! 4,900 is a perfect square of course, and brings to mind the various grids seen in the images. Liz
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Post by samwise on Nov 14, 2020 21:49:46 GMT -5
Hi all,
I have been working on this hunt for many years, but alas, all good things must come to an end. The Location of the Golden Key is revealed in Fandango by means of clues both visual and verbal. I believe that fandango lost the key when he met the fairies. Visual Clue #1: It is (arguably) the same key that is around Neptune's neck on page 7. Visual Clue #2 "An old jewel on a chain of stone". Neptune's key is the only key on a chain (initially I thought this may be referring to a mountain chain). Visual clue #3 It is the only physical key in all the images aside from house key style keys. Verbal Clue #1 "My guard dropped~~because the way a fairy speaks can make you drop things". Right there is when he dropped the key. I have been unable to find the "master riddle", but this spot might still be worth checking out(or maybe 40 south of it and/or 2 West of it). Its coordinates are roughly “44.333, -68.2595”. If someone would check out this spot and let me know, that would be great.
Other things I have found:
One way to interpret the open treasure chest on page 7 (X*+C) is Intersect Stars and C. I believe this is a hint leading us to the star riddle.
If you read every other capitalized letter in the "Dear Reader" note (Read a second time for good measure) you get the word DIGIT. This could be a reference to fingers/Toes or to numerical digits.
Page 19 has a massive X going through it if you look at the lines where it is distorted (one of the lines goes through the roof, Fandango's eye, and the license plate)
Also, there is a five on the chimney on page 23.
Hope this helps,
~Sam
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Post by searcher1991 on Nov 15, 2020 1:06:35 GMT -5
I’ll add a few things.
On page 58 you have the message to the reader. There are exactly 58 words if you count out the dead reader and to Deicy, matching the worlds on the page to the page number. If this is a clue I think it’s just hinting that page number is important
I think doing something with the pages upside down or the border phrases that mirror each other will be important because there’s so many hints at reflection and an eye reflections and the eye reflects images upside down.
I think the folding method will be important but I’m not sure how yet. I think each page should be folded in and then you might get a message from the red and blue letters still available. For example, when you fold in to create the compass rose on the first illustration you get DA. When you fold in to create a compass rose on the second illustration you get ET for the red letters. So maybe that spells date? The next is KY key? Didn’t get anywhere else with this method.
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Post by pumalion on Nov 16, 2020 8:52:15 GMT -5
One way to interpret the open treasure chest on page 7 (X*+C) is Intersect Stars and C. I believe this is a hint leading us to the star riddle. I think the lock on the treasure chest is a very worthwhile clue and you are getting at a good possible interpretation if the goal is to combine all of them into one approach. My thought was to take each symbol separately.
At one point, I was thinking that the four symbols on the lock could be telling us four approaches to different pages or illustrations. For instance, the X could be telling us to look at diagonal lines; the + could be telling us to make a cross shape. On the Nikon illustration (p. 19), for instance, a cross would pick out the letters R, O, S and E in the borders, which seems to fit with the compass rose motif we have found in other ways (such as folding pages to bring corner stars together).
The * could tell us to look at corner stars and the C could tell us to look for the letter C (or sea or see?) to find a clue on that page. For instance, Zodiose has a letter C or crescent moon on his belt buckle.
If the treasure chest is telling us to look for these four types of clues, we just have to figure out which of the four methods to apply to each page.
Maybe the second treasure chest (1653) provides a hint about looking for clues in the text. People have proposed that "1653" could represent "AFEC" which anagrams to FACE. That seems to bring us back to some of the illustrations, though. Except the fox says on p. 54 that he could recognize familiar faces in the clouds, so that might be a text clue relating to "face".
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Post by samwise on Nov 16, 2020 13:55:40 GMT -5
Maybe the second treasure chest (1653) provides a hint about looking for clues in the text. People have proposed that "1653" could represent "AFEC" which anagrams to FACE. That seems to bring us back to some of the illustrations, though. Except the fox says on p. 54 that he could recognize familiar faces in the clouds, so that might be a text clue relating to "face".
I agree that the most logical explanation for the letters "afec" is face, however it still bothers me that he made it an anagram when he could have just written "6135-face". I have run the letters afec through the masquerade squares, ceaser ciphers, and other codes, but to no avail. The numbers could also be "16 5 3" -pec (peace?) As for faces and C's their is a face on the moon (man on the moon) and another C on the Indian's pants. ~Sam
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Post by astree on Nov 16, 2020 15:03:50 GMT -5
"pec" is also another name for chest
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Post by novacula on Nov 17, 2020 8:19:46 GMT -5
I stabbed at this puzzle a while ago, but travel to Acadia seems unlikely any time soon. I will add everything I can think of here in the hopes that it helps us move toward a solution. This puzzle seems centered around constellations. Gods, stars, and earth meet in Mount Desert Island. For that reason I think directions in the story indicate where in the night sky the fox travels and are not meant as directions on land.
Starting with the picture on page 5 possibly gives us Vulpecula (Fandango) between Altair, Serpens Cauda, and Ursa Minor.
Page 7 shows us Neptune and Delphinus.
I though page 15 showed us Neptune disguised as Perseus with Algol for the mouth, but I'm not too sure of that one.
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Post by novacula on Nov 17, 2020 8:20:45 GMT -5
The pompous fellow on page 17 I strongly believe to be Fomalhaut.
The camera lens on 19 has 1927614. June 14th is Flag Day. June 14, 1927 was a lunar eclipse. DMS means degree-minute-second, a way of measuring direction.
The lobsterman on 23 could be Bootes. The boat is named Aeolus with a seagull telling us that it's a red herring.
The twins on 26 almost seduce Fandango while they speak of Orion stars, including Bellatrix (pg 25) and Betelgeuse (pg 27).
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Post by novacula on Nov 17, 2020 8:22:32 GMT -5
On page 30, Harley Quinn's real name is Figaro from The Barber of Seville as a nod to Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen.
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Post by novacula on Nov 17, 2020 8:28:18 GMT -5
It kind of fell apart around Chief Abnaki, but I think that could be Saturn in Capricorn.
For Lady of the Wind I wrote three names for her: Lacerta, Cassiopeia, Andromeda.
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Post by novacula on Nov 17, 2020 8:33:40 GMT -5
My solution: Back among the trees of St Jude's Episcopal Church there should be a realistic looking false rock. Covered now in dirt and moss, the bottom slides open to reveal a key.
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Post by novacula on Nov 17, 2020 8:38:57 GMT -5
This is my triple keystone solution. Atop St. Jude's is an Episcopal cross resembling a keystone symbol which is boxed by the Hercules Keystone quadrangle when viewing it from where the key stone sits among the trees. Right or wrong, this is my best and final solution for this treasure hunt.
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