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Post by searcher1991 on Oct 10, 2020 10:18:53 GMT -5
Need help.
On this page you can fold inwards to create a red and yellow compass rose similar to the back of the book. I don’t know how to add pictures to this post but it also creates what looks like an eye down in the middle of the page.
Also the seemingly random colored blocks seem to create numbers where they connect. They’re easy to see but hard to figure out what numbers exactly they want us to use because some of them overlap and can be 2s and 5s. The first 2 numbers to me are 2 and then 5. I feel like it might be 5 numbers above and below the eye.
So what to do with them?
When you fold the page you get a paragraph of text combined from page 20 and 21. I’m wondering if the numbers give you a word from each line because there’s about 10 combined sentences if you start with ‘I reached the south’, which now overlaps with ‘and bucket full of fish’ line because of the fold.
So the first number formed by the different colored blocks connecting seems clearly to be a 2. So would the first word of the puzzle be ‘reached’ since it’s the 2nd word in the sentence?
There’s also a possibly that we should be getting 11 numbers and the first number corresponds to the title. The picture would make it much easier.
It definitely seems important since it creates an eye and the combined blocks create numbers. Just not sure exactly how to use it.
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Post by thisjustin on Oct 10, 2020 15:53:20 GMT -5
Searcher1991,
The numbers reading top to bottom are 6 2 2 3. Or 62 above the lens and 23 below. One could argue there are a bunch of 5's and/or 2's, but 62 and 23 are the only numbers where a solid orange bar separates the two (i.e. between the 6 & 2 and between the 2 & 3).
If you want to pair p. 19 w/ p. 47 then turn it "UPSIDE DOWN" and you get E 2 2 9.
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Post by dalby2020 on Oct 11, 2020 10:06:19 GMT -5
Thank you for the comments. Now that we're so close to the end, I have no problem further destroying my book. I found that pages 5, 11, 19, 32, 40, and 47 could be folded in such a way as to form a four-pointed red-yellow star as per pg 56 map. imgbox.com/1Q1kba6ximgbox.com/juQOvftdimgbox.com/jD6edSjyimgbox.com/eY9j5kaNimgbox.com/VjJpO2xmimgbox.com/hzJvD5Viimgbox.com/QDs0GCX3Perhaps other pages can be overlapped to form such stars as well? 5 = FANDANGO FOR PLEASURE (GREEN BORDER; RED LETTERS = D, A 11 = HIDDEN AWAY A KEEPSAKE (BLUE BORDER; RED LETTERS = Y, K) 19 = COUNT TO THREE AN EYE REFLECTS (ORANGE BORDER; RED LETTERS = C,T,E,L; BLUE LETTERS = O, F) 32 = SMOKE SIGNALS SPIRITS SPEAK (BLUE BORDER; RED LETTER = E) 40 = AND PIE TEA FOR TWO (YELLOW BORDER; RED LETTERS = D, I; BLUE LETTER = O) 47 = TOPSY TURVY UPSIDE DOWN (ORANGE BORDER; RED LETTERS = R, O)
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Post by ssortabla on Oct 21, 2020 14:23:03 GMT -5
Just a quick observation... the last letter of each line on the folded pages anagrams to O EYES NOSE KEY.
The trailing O from the first line, “Fandango” is a little goofy, but the words still seem potentially relevant. Especially since lines from eyes to nose do cross through hidden keys in a number of pictures within the book.
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Post by stones on Oct 21, 2020 23:00:24 GMT -5
Just a quick observation... the last letter of each line on the folded pages anagrams to O EYES NOSE KEY. The trailing O from the first line, “Fandango” is a little goofy, but the words still seem potentially relevant. Especially since lines from eyes to nose do cross through hidden keys in a number of pictures within the book. What do you mean by "the folded pages"?
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Post by thedawailey on Oct 22, 2020 7:10:52 GMT -5
Just a quick observation... the last letter of each line on the folded pages anagrams to O EYES NOSE KEY. The trailing O from the first line, “Fandango” is a little goofy, but the words still seem potentially relevant. Especially since lines from eyes to nose do cross through hidden keys in a number of pictures within the book. What do you mean by "the folded pages"? When you fold pages 5, 11, 32, 40 & 47 top to bottom, a 4-pointed red and yellow 'compass rose' is formed from corner stars. Also side to side on page 19. See dalby's post above, where he shares images of all of them.
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Post by stones on Oct 22, 2020 13:52:48 GMT -5
Got it. In using the last letter in each side phrase for 6 pages, there's a lot of numbers left over. I did get EYES NOSE KEY O, but also many other letters. Can you clarify? What do you mean by "the folded pages"? When you fold pages 5, 11, 32, 40 & 47 top to bottom, a 4-pointed red and yellow 'compass rose' is formed from corner stars. Also side to side on page 19. See dalby's post above, where he shares images of all of them.
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Post by thedawailey on Oct 22, 2020 16:06:11 GMT -5
Got it. In using the last letter in each side phrase for 6 pages, there's a lot of numbers left over. I did get EYES NOSE KEY O, but also many other letters. Can you clarify? When you fold pages 5, 11, 32, 40 & 47 top to bottom, a 4-pointed red and yellow 'compass rose' is formed from corner stars. Also side to side on page 19. See dalby's post above, where he shares images of all of them. Use just the last letter of each line:
Fandang -------O For Pleasur------E Hidden Awa-----Y A Keepsak-------E An Eye Reflect---S Count To Thre---E Smoke Signal---S Spirits Spea-----K And Pi-----------E Tea For Tw------O Topsy Turv------Y Upside Dow----N Those 12 last letters anagram to O EYES NOSE KEY
I haven't been able to get much using the First letters of each line.
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Post by pumalion on Oct 22, 2020 17:30:48 GMT -5
dalby2020's super-helpful lineup of the compass pages also led me to try some anagrams. Of course, anagrams can go a lot of different ways, even if you get one solution that seems really fitting.
An alternative to ssortabla's and thedawailey's "O eyes nose key" solution leads me to think there could be a pattern, though, given one of my solutions. What if the anagram is actually, "One eye so keys"? Or "So one eye = keys," telling us that on pages showing only one of the fox's eyes, the keys in the illustration will reveal a clue or direction?
It dawned on me that the purpose of a compass is to give directions. So I tried to look for directions using the letters in each of the paired borders made when the pages are folded in to make a compass rose. This one seems like the best match for the "one eye" solution in the last letters of all lines:
"and pie + tea for two" = "rotated if one paw"
Other possibilities:
"fandango + for pleasure" = "on area under Fop's flag" "an eye reflects + count to three" = "references to a toy then a clue" (The only toy I could think of is a single reference to the time lady's kite. This might be confirmation, though: after the kite line, the fox mentions the four compass directions, then says he is out of time.)
But then the anagrams get murky. I found two equally good but still vague possibilities for "smoke signals + spirits speak".
And it's still not clear to me how these would all fit together, if they are correct. Maybe the point would be that there are different ways of finding information in each illustration or page of text, and these compass directions tell us the different approaches to each solution?
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Post by ssortabla on Oct 29, 2020 11:17:45 GMT -5
Got it. In using the last letter in each side phrase for 6 pages, there's a lot of numbers left over. I did get EYES NOSE KEY O, but also many other letters. Can you clarify? Use just the last letter of each line:
Fandang -------O For Pleasur------E Hidden Awa-----Y A Keepsak-------E An Eye Reflect---S Count To Thre---E Smoke Signal---S Spirits Spea-----K And Pi-----------E Tea For Tw------O Topsy Turv------Y Upside Dow----N Those 12 last letters anagram to O EYES NOSE KEY
I haven't been able to get much using the First letters of each line.
It does seem potentially interesting that... if you remove letters from the word “KEY” in order, you’re left with “EYES” reading left to right and “NOSE” reading right to left. The reflection page (and the only one folded left to right) so happens to be the point at which these two “reflected” words come together. I don’t know what to make of it yet or if this is really part of the puzzle... but would have to think the probability that relevant words showing up like this (and reflected at the eye on the reflection page) accidentally would be astronomical. Time to start drawing lines between all they eyes, noses, keys, and o’s I guess! No real idea on the preceding “O” yet.... potentially it refers to something else, maybe the hole in the key for example. Or, maybe this first letter is similar to the oddly placed “C” in the “CMASQUERADE...” puzzle and these rogue first letters will eventually be used in another part of the master puzzle?
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Post by searcher1991 on Oct 29, 2020 12:43:38 GMT -5
Use just the last letter of each line:
Fandang -------O For Pleasur------E Hidden Awa-----Y A Keepsak-------E An Eye Reflect---S Count To Thre---E Smoke Signal---S Spirits Spea-----K And Pi-----------E Tea For Tw------O Topsy Turv------Y Upside Dow----N Those 12 last letters anagram to O EYES NOSE KEY
I haven't been able to get much using the First letters of each line.
It does seem potentially interesting that... if you remove letters from the word “KEY” in order, you’re left with “EYES” reading left to right and “NOSE” reading right to left. The reflection page (and the only one folded left to right) so happens to be the point at which these two “reflected” words come together. I don’t know what to make of it yet or if this is really part of the puzzle... but would have to think the probability that relevant words showing up like this (and reflected at the eye on the reflection page) accidentally would be astronomical. Time to start drawing lines between all they eyes, noses, keys, and o’s I guess! No real idea on the preceding “O” yet.... potentially it refers to something else, maybe the hole in the key for example. Or, maybe this first letter is similar to the oddly placed “C” in the “CMASQUERADE...” puzzle and these rogue first letters will eventually be used in another part of the master puzzle? This is definitely interesting. Also on the eye reflects page, the numbers that are above and below the folded eye Image might relate to these other pages that can also be folded in. Not sure how yet. I thought the Os might be the keyhole as well but I started to work with the eyes through the keyhole and didn’t get anywhere. Let me know if you make any progress. Going to look into it again myself.
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Post by pumalion on Nov 1, 2020 16:23:27 GMT -5
Thank you for the comments. Now that we're so close to the end, I have no problem further destroying my book. I found that pages 5, 11, 19, 32, 40, and 47 could be folded in such a way as to form a four-pointed red-yellow star as per pg 56 map. imgbox.com/1Q1kba6xI wonder whether the position of the compass rose matters? In your link with the six pages lined up, four have the compass rose on the east side of the page (5, 11, 32, 40). One has the compass rose on the north side of the page (19) and one has the compass rose on the west side (47).
As you point out, a red/yellow compass rose is part of the map on p. 56.
There is also a red/yellow compass rose on the back cover of the book.
Could there be other compass roses that provide clues?
When the fold-in secret was shared in this group, there was some discussion of four-pointed stars that were not yellow/red.
There is also a compass rose on Celestia's pink dress, just below her collar.
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Post by dalby2020 on Nov 3, 2020 20:20:26 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe that folding might yield the final answers. I found a couple more pages that could be folded into new stars - but don't know the significance. More importantly, I think each page (or at least some key pages) can be folded in such ways as to complete other pictures. For example, fold proud old fop along the flagpole line and you'll see the mansion in the background piece together perfectly. I'm thinking that once the pages are folded into certain configurations, the star code can be re-applied to yield a new message. At least that's my latest thought.
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Post by ronemund on Nov 5, 2020 9:01:06 GMT -5
Fold Op? What does that mean?
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Post by pumalion on Nov 13, 2020 15:21:40 GMT -5
When the fold-in secret was shared in this group, there was some discussion of four-pointed stars that were not yellow/red. The pages with four-pointed "fold-in" compass rose stars that are NOT red/yellow seem to be:
p. 7 Neptune - on the west side of the page, a four-pointed star can be formed with orange, red, blue and yellow points.
p. 30 Harley Quinn - on the south side of the page, a four-pointed star can be formed with orange, red, blue and yellow points.
p. 53 Turning Tide - on the west side of the page, a four-pointed star can be formed with three red and one blue point. p. 55 Two Together - on the west side of the page, a four-pointed star can be formed with yellow, red, brown and blue points.
In each case, the center of the stars aligns with the inner border (between the border phrases and the image), a feature that is also true for all of the red/yellow stars. This makes me think that these multi-colored stars are intentional.
Does it matter that they are not red / yellow, like the compass rose on the map and on the back cover of the book?
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