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Post by scottk on Jan 14, 2021 9:35:07 GMT -5
Yes, in the link below, David Steele said the hunt is self contained.... at 2:26 (summary of what was said) If there is an error in story…… doesn’t matter….. only use info in the story…… self contained….. for example, if an one hit wonder in story- then they are one hit wonders if said so in chapter, even if in 'real life' they had 12 other hits... at 2:56 (summary and said multiple times) If a method is used, it HAS to be described in the chapter….. and so since the Caesar shift is described, that is within in realm of possibility as being used..…. HOWEVER, the Playfair was not described, so ABSOLUTELY not used…. video link: youtu.be/P9FOfWqZ80ADid you paste the wrong video link? The time stamps don't match up
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Post by davem on Jan 14, 2021 11:57:23 GMT -5
They can both be true if "Theco" gave Dave some general guidelines without actually telling him what the methods are. If, for instance, Theco told Dave that each chapter's solution is self contained, he hasn't really told him what any given method is (ciphers, anagrams, word play, etc...) So Dave can know that any given solution is contained in the pertinent chapter whilst not knowing what the correct method is. Don't kid yourself -- Theco IS Dave. Theco DeMaster = The Code Master = Dave Dave's just saying the stuff about not knowing the methods so he doesn't get (even more) inundated with questions about them all the time. (and he's a bit of a jester, too) It's the reasoning behind the pen name, too. Of course he knows the methods, he created them. He couldn't and wouldn't provide such specific "rule-like" answers if he really didn't know any of the methods... ... he would be afraid that he would get something wrong and steer people completely in the wrong way. Come on.
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Post by scottk on Jan 14, 2021 14:22:12 GMT -5
They can both be true if "Theco" gave Dave some general guidelines without actually telling him what the methods are. If, for instance, Theco told Dave that each chapter's solution is self contained, he hasn't really told him what any given method is (ciphers, anagrams, word play, etc...) So Dave can know that any given solution is contained in the pertinent chapter whilst not knowing what the correct method is. Don't kid yourself -- Theco IS Dave. Theco DeMaster = The Code Master = Dave Dave's just saying the stuff about not knowing the methods so he doesn't get (even more) inundated with questions about them all the time. (and he's a bit of a jester, too) It's the reasoning behind the pen name, too. Of course he knows the methods, he created them. He couldn't and wouldn't provide such specific "rule-like" answers if he really didn't know any of the methods... ... he would be afraid that he would get something wrong and steer people completely in the wrong way. Come on. Yeah I think that's likely too. Especially given how he seems to get a kick out of deprecating "Theco's" writing. I was just making the point that there's nothing incongruent about Dave knowing something about the methods while allegedly not knowing the actual methods. But I guess it's a rhetorical point, given the likelihood that Dave is Theco.
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Post by davem on Jan 14, 2021 14:53:52 GMT -5
Don't kid yourself -- Theco IS Dave. Theco DeMaster = The Code Master = Dave Dave's just saying the stuff about not knowing the methods so he doesn't get (even more) inundated with questions about them all the time. (and he's a bit of a jester, too) It's the reasoning behind the pen name, too. Of course he knows the methods, he created them. He couldn't and wouldn't provide such specific "rule-like" answers if he really didn't know any of the methods... ... he would be afraid that he would get something wrong and steer people completely in the wrong way. Come on. Yeah I think that's likely too. Especially given how he seems to get a kick out of deprecating "Theco's" writing. I was just making the point that there's nothing incongruent about Dave knowing something about the methods while allegedly not knowing the actual methods. But I guess it's a rhetorical point, given the likelihood that Dave is Theco. Yeah .. but I do see your point. Either way it's not really all that important compared to the "rules-of-the-game" that he has laid down for us. Saying that the 4 (and eventually 10) Chapters all have completely unique methodology in the solves is very valuable.
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 14, 2021 20:45:53 GMT -5
Ok last comment because this is all pure speculation... Dave said 1. If all you had was chapter x and no internet, you could solve chapter x. 2. He doesn't know any of the methods, only the locations. To me these two statements are mutually exclusive. I don’t see how they can both be true. So...if 2 is true and he has no idea of the methods, it seems to me that the method for chapter x could be in chapter y. Doesn’t it seem logical that the author would assume that if you’re reading chapter 4, you’ve already read 1, 2, and 3? They can both be true if "Theco" gave Dave some general guidelines without actually telling him what the methods are. If, for instance, Theco told Dave that each chapter's solution is self contained, he hasn't really told him what any given method is (ciphers, anagrams, word play, etc...) So Dave can know that any given solution is contained in the pertinent chapter whilst not knowing what the correct method is. As an analogy, if my brother hands me a box and says my mom's birthday present is inside, then I can say the following statements: 1. Here Mom, your birthday present is in this box 2. I have no idea what it is These statements are entirely compatible. Maybe...but...Dave also said that he read all four chapters and didn't know how to solve any of them. Since Chapter 4 has been solved and we now know the solution, I find that claim very hard to believe. Even if he didn't know the specifics of NORTH VEGAS ELDORADO BENCH etc., he did know that it was hidden under a bench in Eldorado Park near Las Vegas. Knowing that, it wouldn't have been hard to pick the correct letters out of the one-hit wonders. Also, to me, he answers those questions so forcefully, it doesn't sound like he's just repeating what he was told by "Theco." It sounds like he knows for certain (because he was the author). That's just my take on it. I could be totally wrong.
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Post by scottk on Jan 15, 2021 8:28:50 GMT -5
They can both be true if "Theco" gave Dave some general guidelines without actually telling him what the methods are. If, for instance, Theco told Dave that each chapter's solution is self contained, he hasn't really told him what any given method is (ciphers, anagrams, word play, etc...) So Dave can know that any given solution is contained in the pertinent chapter whilst not knowing what the correct method is. As an analogy, if my brother hands me a box and says my mom's birthday present is inside, then I can say the following statements: 1. Here Mom, your birthday present is in this box 2. I have no idea what it is These statements are entirely compatible. Maybe...but...Dave also said that he read all four chapters and didn't know how to solve any of them. Since Chapter 4 has been solved and we now know the solution, I find that claim very hard to believe. Even if he didn't know the specifics of NORTH VEGAS ELDORADO BENCH etc., he did know that it was hidden under a bench in Eldorado Park near Las Vegas. Knowing that, it wouldn't have been hard to pick the correct letters out of the one-hit wonders. Also, to me, he answers those questions so forcefully, it doesn't sound like he's just repeating what he was told by "Theco." It sounds like he knows for certain (because he was the author). That's just my take on it. I could be totally wrong. Your logic is valid. The more I watch interviews with him, and the more I see him struggle to decide when to elaborate on the chapters and when to pull the "I don't know the methods" card, the more I think it's just a ploy to avoid being harassed with questions. To me, the nail in the coffin for his claim that Theco was the writer is the fact that his cat is named "Darth Ravenous," implying that he's a major Star Wars geek. And Chapter two just so happens to be a highly-specific deep-dive rant about Star Wars. So obviously he was much more involved in the writing process than simply providing a general "screenplay" as he puts it. Unless "Theco" also just so happens to be a major Star Wars nerd.
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 15, 2021 12:33:09 GMT -5
Good point!
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