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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 2, 2017 11:35:37 GMT -5
I know that several searchers have been to one particular place to search. The clues led us there, and once there, it was obvious that this particular place was the place in the book.
No one has yet to report finding the treasure.
I searched that entire area. I will admit, that there were many numerous places that an object could easily be hidden. But after several group searches that we know about (there must be many more that we don't know about) that place must be very well searched by now.
I would like to know from other hunters who have searched this particular place:
#1 When did you go to search?
#2 How many days did you search this place?
#3 Once there, did you use the 4 feet triangle method used in the book to try to determine the location of the treasure? If so, can you describe the area you came up with?
#4 Did you try to use Mitchell and Timmy's method when there? If so, what did you come up with?
#5 Why do you think the treasure was not there?
I welcome any other comments about your search.
I realize some people who have searched may not want to answer. And I realize some people may feel this is sensitive material. I have tried not to give away the location, but I feel at this point, most already know.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 2, 2017 11:53:31 GMT -5
#1 I searched in May.
#2 I searched with my spouse for two full days. We would make several trips a day to the spot...in the morning, then go to town for lunch. Go back to search. Stop. Go eat dinner.
#3 Yes, we tried the triangle method. We even took a tape measure with us so that we could measure a four foot distance and be exact. We began our measurements from what I thought was the exit point of the "rock narrows". At this place, there was definitely a hill coming up, where I could picture the characters Judy and Nels almost intersecting.
#4 Yes, I also tried the Mitchell and Timmy method. The compass bearing took me into the woods. Close by was a tree stump, which I got excited about, but once I examined the stump, found nothing.
#5 I think that the treasure has been found already, and that whoever found it is just waiting until after August 9th to turn it in so they can receive the extra $5,000.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 2, 2017 15:06:35 GMT -5
GeneticBlend: since you told us your place in another thread, roughly how many clues (aside from Hodaddy) did you find for that city? Can you give us an example or two? Do the dots and grid on the book dust jacket (and on the book itself) tie in to your city? (If not, you should raise an eyebrow because those dots are an unambiguous clue for my city, and since they're on the cover of the book there is no doubt that if they ARE a clue, then it has to be for hunt #1, not #2 or #3.)
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Post by razorback on Jul 2, 2017 15:43:04 GMT -5
Are you talking about Balanced Rock or Goat Rock @ HSNP?
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jul 2, 2017 15:55:54 GMT -5
I wonder how many locations out there have these exact same 'steps' present. Check out Mr. Chappelear's hunt just a few days ago > www.facebook.com/groups/1655174334784219/permalink/1716509938650658/And several other of you, in completely different states, have found the exact same instructions work to the letter, landmark to landmark. It's uncanny.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 2, 2017 19:14:24 GMT -5
I wonder if people just say that the markers worked for them, even if it was a failed hunt, in order to save face, or just due to denial. There are people who will force the physical clues to fit their solve.
I find it very difficult to believe that these markers, with the paces, could be found somewhere else.
Zaphod, to answer your question about the dots on the book cover...Initially I was attempting to use the dots as a map that would go along with the mileage stated in the book. I think this was a very common idea among treasure hunters. My original solve was not the one we are discussing now, but in another area of the US. I have not totally abandoned that idea/solve. So obviously, I think the dots may be used for one of the other hunts. But I should say, that I have seen other hunters use the dots and/or the mileage to arrive at the same destination where I have searched. This however, could be a case of making the dots fit the solution.
To answer your other question, I do have plenty of clues and hints from the book that point to the city and area. I prefer to keep them to myself at this time. I think that some of the things I have found, have not been found by other hunters, and I don't wish to share them.
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Post by astree on Jul 3, 2017 9:00:16 GMT -5
At one of the main places, I was able to line up the 210 bearing (actually, about 212 bearing) from the spot looking as found in the hidden instructions. There are other STRONG confirmers in that general direction, but not as close to the 210 degrees.
I created a table listing the instructions that Mitchell and Timmy followed, and compared step-by-step with Nels' group.
I got Nels group taking the 930 + (undisclosed) + 140 paces (looks like Nels instruction to the boys to "follow the trail out back") to the rock ledge, which is where the two boys go 68 feet. This seems to be where Nels went down the hill.
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Tangential question: Does Nels get the paces from another clue in the stack which we are not shown?
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Post by razorback on Jul 3, 2017 10:46:23 GMT -5
At one of the main places, I was able to line up the 210 bearing (actually, about 212 bearing) from the spot looking as found in the hidden instructions. There are other STRONG confirmers in that general direction, but not as close to the 210 degrees.
I created a table listing the instructions that Mitchell and Timmy followed, and compared step-by-step with Nels' group.
I got Nels group taking the 930 + (undisclosed) + 140 paces (looks like Nels instruction to the boys to "follow the trail out back") to the rock ledge, which is where the two boys go 68 feet. This seems to be where Nels went down the hill.
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Tangential question: Does Nels get the paces from another clue in the stack which we are not shown?
Oh no! No wonder I didn't find it. I paced off 840 + (undisclosed) + 190 paces, instead. I assumed Nels got the paces from the stack of clues he solved.
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Post by astree on Jul 3, 2017 12:59:15 GMT -5
You're right about the 840 paces. Thanks for the response, razorback.
Did you pace off (undisclosed) after the 840, and before the 190, using landmark or other feature to go the undiscosed?
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Post by razorback on Jul 3, 2017 13:17:47 GMT -5
No, once I paced off the 840, I was near an intersection to another trail. I tried both ways. Only one way had a wide rock formation that you had to cross. I didn't count the paces to the rock formation, but it was about 200 yards. The rock formation in the path was about 30-40 yards wide.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jul 3, 2017 14:09:08 GMT -5
I wonder if people just say that the markers worked for them, even if it was a failed hunt, in order to save face, or just due to denial. There are people who will force the physical clues to fit their solve. I find it very difficult to believe that these markers, with the paces, could be found somewhere else. Zaphod, to answer your question about the dots on the book cover...Initially I was attempting to use the dots as a map that would go along with the mileage stated in the book. I think this was a very common idea among treasure hunters. My original solve was not the one we are discussing now, but in another area of the US. I have not totally abandoned that idea/solve. So obviously, I think the dots may be used for one of the other hunts. But I should say, that I have seen other hunters use the dots and/or the mileage to arrive at the same destination where I have searched. This however, could be a case of making the dots fit the solution. To answer your other question, I do have plenty of clues and hints from the book that point to the city and area. I prefer to keep them to myself at this time. I think that some of the things I have found, have not been found by other hunters, and I don't wish to share them. Hi GB -- everyone uses the dots to try to line up with a map. While this is understandable, this is not what they're for. They are a clue to the city. And I believe there is no doubt they go with the current hunt -- otherwise why put them on the cover of the book? What many searchers may not be aware of is that in the pre-release version of the book, the dots and diagonal line were mirror-reversed from what you see on your copy (though the Butterscotch Clipper and characters were not).
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Post by astree on Jul 4, 2017 7:07:55 GMT -5
No, once I paced off the 840, I was near an intersection to another trail. I tried both ways. Only one way had a wide rock formation that you had to cross. I didn't count the paces to the rock formation, but it was about 200 yards. The rock formation in the path was about 30-40 yards wide. Got it. Seems we're looking at same place. Did you figure why the group wsnted to take a picture before continuing? (Look at map ) GB may be correct about the object already being found. Disheartening. zaphod, interesting about lining up the cover dots at the place. Pete did say in long Mdc777 interview that dots would change for each hunt. If I recall.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 4, 2017 8:22:51 GMT -5
Razorback, it sounds as though you were at the same place too. I didn't realize you had made the trip also. When did you go?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jul 4, 2017 8:27:22 GMT -5
Astree, I think the group wanted to take a picture because of the rock-eating tree. I know I did. It was unusual, and funny when you think about it in the context of the poem...not wanting to eat sunshine, but eating a rock instead.
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Post by qigongbaby on Jul 4, 2017 14:53:02 GMT -5
That's NOT what is 'funny' about the location. There's a famous point of interest with the word 'knee' in it right on the trail. Hence, the fun-knee. But treasure is 'probably' found already so save your time.
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