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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 27, 2019 16:52:53 GMT -5
I'm still looking for a direct reference from Forrest, but here's a reliable secondary reference from Dal back in May 2013: dalneitzel.com/2012/08/10/clue-toledo/#comment-1298"Stephen- I call that a non-clue. By that I mean it doesn't mean anything. Forrest admitted he was just joking and he has also said it isn't the kind of clue that will help anybody. He also said he was talking about Toledo, OH. The Rocky Mountains don't start for well over 300 miles west of Toledo, OH no matter how you measure it."
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 27, 2019 17:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by nkown on Apr 27, 2019 17:42:33 GMT -5
again.... I rely solely on what FF says... and the original MountainWalk blog post... worth looking up. It does NOT say 8.25 miles north of Sante Fe New Mexico... and it was not written by Forrest Fenn it was written by Forrwst Fenn, though ff acknowledged it was he who wrote it.
I assure you that a spot can be found that is 66k links from Sante Fe and 300 miles from Toledo in the exactly opposite directions than indicated, putting it in the rockies at a permissible altitude. Further, that spot is significant to ff... and has a bronze cast by a good friend of his. I don't really want to say much more... but I think any clarification after was to prevent less sophisticated people from searching outside the rockies. And both are merely confirming an area... they don't help solve the poem (otherwise I'd have the chest)
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 27, 2019 19:34:55 GMT -5
nkown: I don't see that the distance north of Santa Fe matters, regardless what units it's expressed in. The important words are "more than" -- that's what makes the hint mostly useless. Same goes for Toledo: "more than 300 miles." All of the Rockies are more than 300 miles west of Toledo, and Forrest has admitted that the Toledo "clue" is absolutely useless.
The same logic is at work with "I walked less than a few miles" -- a millimeter is less than a few miles.
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 27, 2019 19:44:10 GMT -5
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Post by npsbuilder on Apr 27, 2019 20:16:31 GMT -5
It does appear to be strange. With our confusion here was it Ohio or not and may or may not be a clue - maybe the facts have been updated since we have basically determined that it may not be a fact. I have all confidence in Jenny and the staff here at MW trying to keep the facts correct.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 27, 2019 20:44:49 GMT -5
EIS Radio (8/8/2013): "I've given clues to everybody. I've never given a clue to an individual. The first clue that I gave that wasn't in my poem was because I made this guy mad and he demanded another clue. And I said, 'The treasure chest is hidden more than 300 miles west of Toledo.' I don't think he knew that I was pulling his leg."
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Post by lookinup on Apr 27, 2019 20:51:51 GMT -5
I also think that the "Toledo" mention made by F' was most likely made in jest. (Unless, of course, it's connected with a Railway System.)
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Post by goldwatch on Apr 28, 2019 11:55:35 GMT -5
EIS Radio (8/8/2013): "I've given clues to everybody. I've never given a clue to an individual. The first clue that I gave that wasn't in my poem was because I made this guy mad and he demanded another clue. And I said, 'The treasure chest is hidden more than 300 miles west of Toledo.' I don't think he knew that I was pulling his leg." Ha! Obviously that sounds exactly like FF was pulling his leg. So if he didn't know that FF was pulling his leg, that sounds like reverse logic to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 9:58:51 GMT -5
There are two images of Native American men with braided hair in Scrapbook 91 on Dal Neitzel's website.
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Post by goldilocks on May 8, 2019 10:58:08 GMT -5
Hi Ralph, Dorothy from WOO and Sally Colorado in The Codex had braids however braids don't necessarily involve hair, there are braided rugs, braided baskets, bracelets etc.
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Post by lookinup on May 8, 2019 11:08:56 GMT -5
Another possibility would be a braided fishing line.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 14:23:42 GMT -5
Hi Ralph, Dorothy from WOO and Sally Colorado in The Codex had braids however braids don't necessarily involve hair, there are braided rugs, braided baskets, bracelets etc. Of course. The ninth clue in my solve is "Our Woven Braid." The clue was derived from an anagram involving the sixth stanza. The reference to "brave hair" was simply a reassuring confirmer. The clue itself in no way implies that what one is looking for inside the owl nook is made of hair, just that is made of something that is in some sense braided.
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