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Post by susb8383 on Feb 27, 2020 18:04:13 GMT -5
Ok new tactic. After trying fruitlessly to relate black flame to James Marshall, now I’m just going to try to walk in findingthetruth’s footsteps. One day after the 11 miles hint came out, he posted that he had found something in a book hundreds of years old. Then the very next day he posted that he found the ciphertext. Which makes me think that the “assistance” is the book itself. So now I’m on the hunt for the book.
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Post by fishmini on Feb 27, 2020 18:12:12 GMT -5
It would also be helpful to know the same information about the chest. I have been wondering as well if the person who found the chest is 100% sure it is the correct location based on solid proof from the location they found it. As for the cipher text, there are multiple things at its location that prove without a doubt that it goes with this hunt.
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Post by treysure on Mar 1, 2020 22:26:53 GMT -5
To find the second key, You need assistance from a man, Whose fortune came as a surprise While clearing wood upon the land.
Something bothers me about James Marshall and this stanza. It said that his fortune came as a surprise...James Marshall or Johann Sutter never made any money from the discovery of gold at Sutter's Mill. Sutter emigrated from Switzerland to avoid debtor's prison...he wasn't a very good businessman.
Sutter owned the property and employed Marshall to build the mill. Upon the discovery of gold, nearly every able-bodied person up and left. The mill fell into disrepair and was not used as intended. In other words, the mill was a failure and neither Sutter or Marshall profited from the discovery (or the mill, really).
Marshall became a drifter after a vineyard failure as well as another prospecting venture failed. The state of California propped him up with a pension for a couple of years (they recognized him as the discoverer) but didn't renew it when they found out he was a drunk. He died as a gardener...his own.
Where is the fortune as a surprise (nevermind surprises...where is the fortune in all this?) Seems like Marshall and Sutter had misfortunes instead.
Just my thoughts, but figured to share them as a point of discussion.
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Post by susb8383 on Mar 1, 2020 23:05:39 GMT -5
How was the solution to piece 2 of Key 1 'astride?' It wasn't. One thing I've found about Lukas from some of the posted solutions is that his words aren't always totally accurate.
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Post by efanton on Mar 1, 2020 23:48:41 GMT -5
How was the solution to piece 2 of Key 1 'astride?' It wasn't. One thing I've found about Lukas from some of the posted solutions is that his words aren't always totally accurate. I agree, That's the only thing I do not like about this hunt. The clues are not solid enough and the answers can be vaguely related to the solution of a clue. Its better sometimes to think of the clues set by Lucas as associations. Who would have though a treasure on it own actually meant a Treasure Island. Yes it make sense now we know the answer, but if you think of that clue literally you would have never have go it. Then it gets worse. The bowling alley was NOT on the treasure Island but instead close by. If you had taken what was written and the solution to the clue literally you would never have found the bowling alley So I wouldn't get hung up on the exact detail. James Marshall found gold unexpectedly. It was a surprise, but he didn't make a fortune, maybe you could read that as he was fortunate to find the gold. It just means that you have to be a lot more flexible, consider more options and if an association or location roughly fits it could well be part of the solution
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Post by treysure on Mar 2, 2020 0:15:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. I can see the points of view on this stanza and I'll have to keep that reasoning in mind moving forward.
This is challenging to say the least, but entertaining too.
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Post by chipveres on Mar 7, 2020 12:39:22 GMT -5
Okay, after a week and a half of fruitless searching, I found a pdf called the Crypto Party Handbook. The James Marshall in it is a computer programmer, not a millwright. Can someone please tell me if I am warm or cold? Or have I located another rabbit hole?
Edit: Thank you Coy Wonder.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Mar 7, 2020 12:46:17 GMT -5
Cold
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Post by findingthetruth on Mar 9, 2020 7:29:34 GMT -5
does anyone think the telephone number that came with the cipher is a bit random? why not get a local number i think its a clue
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Post by goldenchild on Mar 9, 2020 8:16:05 GMT -5
Definitely a clue
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Post by treasurer on Mar 9, 2020 8:33:45 GMT -5
I wondered about that too. I'm the old guy on the board... is it possible these days for Lukas to arrange for an out of area number that targets a location? Or is he just for variety borrowing that number from somebody he knows?
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Post by chipveres on Mar 9, 2020 8:50:15 GMT -5
My understanding (?) is that you can rent a VoIP number from anyone anywhere that's willing to take your money. The first key is in Dearborn because we were looking for a place where a deer was born (groan).
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Post by findingthetruth on Mar 9, 2020 11:39:30 GMT -5
i have no idea how phone numbers work in usa but in the uk telephone numbers are linked to your landline you have to have an account at a physical address
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Post by goldenchild on Mar 9, 2020 18:00:29 GMT -5
You can just buy a pay as you go phone from that area and it would have that area code. Even if he just knew someone in Oregon they could go buy a “burner” and mail it to him.
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Post by findingthetruth on Mar 9, 2020 18:05:32 GMT -5
so yea then it must definitely be a clue
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