luna
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Post by luna on Jan 2, 2020 13:42:19 GMT -5
I would still personally love any sort of question that helps clarify stanza 4, but I’ll be happy with any question that’s asked.
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 14:03:16 GMT -5
Im 99% sure 4566 is not correct. Ive done extensive work this past month . Theres always margin of error but im most certain further manipulation is needed. My suggestion is to play a high low type question , that way a positive result can be reached either way. Yes or no = a result. Focus on the numbers for either stanza 4 or 5 maybe even the first digit of each .for stanza 4 1st digit is going to be btwn 2 and 9(maybe split the difference is the first digit higher or lower than x) . For stanza 5 maybe ask is the first digit of final answer for stanza 5 going to be 3,4,or 5(plus or minus 1 from 4). Just my suggestion but whoever's got the question ultimately its your choice ...good luck
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Post by Jenny on Jan 2, 2020 15:22:53 GMT -5
Thank you for the advice.... I did win the random drawing for the Q..... and need to send in a Q soon....
Please continue to offer suggestions until I do...
Would it be helpful to know if Key 2 can be found without knowing Key 1-- or another way to ask is- Is Key 1 needed to solve Key 2?
Seems we call a place, possibly get a recording, and is that recording 'assistance from a man?' Is a password needed to move on after calling the place, and other information given?
Seems like that is possible with 'your newfound knowledge'?
As mentioned, I'm open to suggestions....
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 16:56:13 GMT -5
I really think the first key may provide some insight on the second key but its likely that the second key could be solved without it .otherwise why have a key tester for both? Personally im thinking clarity on stanza 5 is most crucial. Maybe "does more than one alphanumeric answer need to be manipulated? " i think its possible that e6 is what throws this off. A song is really the only thing that can be played carefully out of the 4. Although i dont think you would play with c4 if you did you would probably play carefully. Also other things that make me think e6 is off: the next part is a( trick e1) (play it carfull e)also a song by d.d.e. seems to be the 1 thing that doesnt fit the rest. We got c4 explode, f5 the strongest wind, and c6 either high seas or sea sick .all three of those seem to have a element of danger but a song about a highway really doesnt. Anyway just a thought although i still think the most beneficial approach is dividing and conquering .we know 1st key is phone number if we use that to our advantage we can reduce tons of possibilities and clear a path to actually getting the key. I dont mean to sound like such a brute forcer but since there is no way to check each stanza the only way i can see to check things is to shrink the parameters of each. Its your call ill support whatever you decide. I would just ask that whatever you question try to ask in a way that y or n both produce a good result.
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Post by xodiak on Jan 2, 2020 17:07:07 GMT -5
Jenny - I'm very new to this hunt but it seems to me that there is very little guidance on how to find key 2. So i think it would be very useful to know if we must find key 1 first. But up to you.
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 17:13:50 GMT -5
Also most of us think 313 is the answer for stanza 3 but what if we're wrong. I think 3 of these possible area are for sure not it . The 2 codes that overlay are somewhat problematic if the solve is geographical in any way and the code that covers the upper peninsula really doesnt fit the "glove" reference. Maybe nominate your top 3 answers. If yes then great if no then thats 3 possibilities eliminated.
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Post by efanton on Jan 2, 2020 17:22:16 GMT -5
The question I would ask is
"Do any of the answers for the different stanza's require manipulation before entering a solution into the Key Checker?"
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 17:44:33 GMT -5
The answer would be yes...wouldnt it? We know stanza 5 needs manipulation.
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 18:04:21 GMT -5
Maybe what you're after is "does any stanza other than 5 need to be manipulated b4 entering it into to the key checker?"
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Post by captnkush on Jan 2, 2020 18:06:44 GMT -5
I think that going for a target range on the numbers would ultimately tell you the same thing..wouldn't it?
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Post by goldentoad on Jan 2, 2020 18:31:31 GMT -5
I think a solid question would be:
"Does each individual alphanumeric partial solution from stanza 5 encode a single digit from the last four digits of a phone number?"
If yes, we know to find a cipher, encryption algorithm (possibly novel such as the piano keyboard-related proposed solutions), or encoding that produces a single digit from an alphanumeric pair. At worst, different orderings of these would then need to be tested.
If no, we would know one or both of two things:
1) Stanza 5 does not produce the last 4 digits. This seems unlikely based on the format of the clues and the knowledge that stanza 3 produces a Michigan area code (implying that the phone number is broken up into its component parts). 2) The alphanumeric pairs need to be manipulated or combined before decoding, possibly yielding a single 4 digit number rather than 4 independent digits.
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Post by Jenny on Jan 2, 2020 18:44:46 GMT -5
Anyone feel asking -is the meaning to a bird rarely thrown a Turkey- beneficial?
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 2, 2020 18:49:12 GMT -5
My question would be one of the following:
Does "a bird that's rarely thrown" refer to a turkey?
Does the solution to stanza 4 have anything to do with a foreign country? (foreign to the U.S. that is).
Is the solution to piece 2 a three-digit number with no duplicate digits?
Does stanza 7 (..."You must travel through black flame. The place where alchemy’s best is found...") indicate some kind of manipulation that must be done to the answers of one or more of the previous stanzas?
Is there anything hidden in the poem other than the meaning of the words themselves, for example but not limited to: a cipher, an acrostic, etc.?
Would someone be able to solve this and find the treasure without stanzas 1, 8, 9, and 10?
I personally would not ask: Do we need to find key 1 in order to find key 2--because the answer really won't help us much. If we concentrate on solving key 1 first anyway, the answer won't matter.
Is the answer to piece 1 313--because to me it's very likely that it is. I would work on the rest of the pieces first.
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Post by Jenny on Jan 2, 2020 18:53:26 GMT -5
personally, and I'm glad to see others might agree, I would like to have Turkey confirmed or discounted..... I think I will ask that.. is that good with everyone?
There is always next month's question, if needed!
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 2, 2020 18:53:42 GMT -5
Anyone feel asking -is the meaning to a bird rarely thrown a Turkey- beneficial? I think we were typing at the same time. But yes, I think this is a good question. But I would NOT capitalize 'turkey' because that's implying a proper noun like a country. If the answer is a turkey like in bowling, which should not be capitalized, I'm not sure if he would answer yes or no if we're only asking about a proper noun.
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