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Post by captnkush on Oct 10, 2019 16:49:39 GMT -5
Im also not sold 100% on 313 but im running it. Ive got a couple possibilities for stanza 3 . Thinking along the lines of Artemis, i know there's at least two u.s. cities with that name as well as maybe where shes from ideas from rp1 or greek or roman mythologies.
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Post by efanton on Oct 10, 2019 18:31:51 GMT -5
On the other side if we had a good solve for the prefix that would leave considerably less options for associated area code. As area codes cover much larger areas and not every prefix is necessarily used within each one. Unfortunately my solve for stanza 4 doesn't seem to work I took the 843 from here google map XWe are told The next plus two is found So I tried the three prefix's 843 841 845 These numbers ARE NOT valid solutions 3138434566 3138414566 3138454566 3138433244 3138413244 3138453244 will do as you are doing. Go through the whole lot (1264 possible solution). There's no harm at least two of us doing the same thing. Easy to miss a number or make a simple mistake. At least we can say for certain we have eliminated a lot of possibilities Will try get that done tomorrow sometime.
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Post by captnkush on Oct 10, 2019 19:01:56 GMT -5
On the other side if we had a good solve for the prefix that would leave considerably less options for associated area code. As area codes cover much larger areas and not every prefix is necessarily used within each one. Unfortunately my solve for stanza 4 doesn't seem to work I took the 843 from here google map XWe are told The next plus two is found So I tried the three prefix's 843 841 845 These numbers ARE NOT valid solutions 3138434566 3138414566 3138454566 3138433244 3138413244 3138453244 will do as you are doing. Go through the whole lot (1264 possible solution). There's no harm at least two of us doing the same thing. Easy to miss a number or make a simple mistake. At least we can say for certain we have eliminated a lot of possibilities Will try get that done tomorrow sometime. think thats great should definitely reduce margin of error.
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Post by jewelie on Oct 20, 2019 19:58:13 GMT -5
I just got home after a week in the Smoky Mountains. I was looking forward to reading a bunch of updates. No such luck. I have been with spotty cell service, so not a lot of breakthroughs, but I have looked at the country Turkey a bit, and there are a lot of "treasures". Now I need to research if anything is astride said treasures. Any news from anyone else?
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Post by susb8383 on Oct 21, 2019 16:02:57 GMT -5
I know the common thinking here is that the first three digits are 313 (Dearborn, MI). However, I am still not sure about that. It could well be 231 (Hart, MI). I am keeping both doors open... cityofhart.org/ Me too. Im not sold on an area code at all. Although i think the final number is a 10 digit number that can be called, im not convinced the solve for the first 3 is a specific area code. Mainly because an area code doesnt call a place like dearborn. Since 313 references more places than just dearborn, you cant call dearborn with just 313.
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Post by susb8383 on Oct 21, 2019 16:10:07 GMT -5
I dont think anyone answered efantons question about the way prefixes work. I believe it is by geographic location, for example a state may have an area code of 123 and the prefix of 456 is for certain towns within that state. But a totally different state with an area code of 789 may also have a prefix of 456 for some of its towns. Not sure if that answered the question.
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Post by efanton on Oct 22, 2019 10:42:13 GMT -5
I dont think anyone answered efantons question about the way prefixes work. I believe it is by geographic location, for example a state may have an area code of 123 and the prefix of 456 is for certain towns within that state. But a totally different state with an area code of 789 may also have a prefix of 456 for some of its towns. Not sure if that answered the question. That's exactly what I was trying to figure out. The 313 area code covers a huge area, and with so many prefixes, it might be possible to narrow down possible solutions.If we have a 10 digit number we are looking at 9,999,999,999 possible solutions If we have the first 3 digits correct (313) then we are looking at 9,999,999 solutions If we had the dial code (313) and the prefix correct we would only be looking at 9,999 possible solutions.
less than 10,000 possible solutions is something that we could brute force a solution to, if push came to shove and everything else failed. 5 people each trying 2000 solutions over a week would be easily achievable if we all pulled together, even easier if more people volunteered to help. If no one was prepared to help then I could do that all myself over a period of 2 to 3 weeks, but good luck to those who were not prepared to help, I simply would not share an answer with them if it was found, (that's not me being selfish, there too many lurkers on this site IMHO waiting to be fed and probably less than ten people willing to work together, share ideas, and share the workload, those ten being regular contributors and will know who they are). . It would be time consuming and tedious work, but if there is no break through in the next month or so, it might well be the only way to progress. The issue would be can we isolate specific prefixes as possible solutions and eliminate other prefixes as irrelevant. I have searched for a map that broke down prefix areas but failed to find one. If prefixes are geographically based you would have thought there would be a map somewhere If we cannot isolate specific prefixes then brute force is out of the question. I am hoping we get a break through on stanza 5, I have been playing with the K2 idea but so far nothing close to even be worthwhile sharing. It looks like we are dead in the water until the next question to Lukas at the moment.
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Post by mrpoirot on Oct 23, 2019 16:48:36 GMT -5
Yes, it indeed looks like we are stuck until Lukas answers the next question. That is too bad. I am not liking the fact that this is turning into a 20 questions game... I am sure Lukas does not like it either. But what can we do... Perhaps someone will stumble upon something soon. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by captnkush on Oct 24, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -5
www.twilio.com/docs/glossary/north-american-area-codes there are not 999 possibilities for a area code this site says there are only about 335 in the United States and when look on wikipedia including all countries on the north American numbering system i counted about 426 in use .https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_Numbering_Plan_area_codes. As you can see on this wiki page there are also gonna be rules to the numbering plan wich eliminate 0 and 1 as a first digit for a prefix or area code . As well as a few other rules wich will reduce overall possibilities. Anyone whos gonna try punch numbers should read up this thoroughly.
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Post by captnkush on Oct 24, 2019 17:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by captnkush on Oct 24, 2019 17:57:44 GMT -5
Also anyone thinking its a Michigan area code there are only 11
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Post by efanton on Oct 25, 2019 14:34:46 GMT -5
www.twilio.com/docs/glossary/north-american-area-codes there are not 999 possibilities for a area code this site says there are only about 335 in the United States and when look on wikipedia including all countries on the north American numbering system i counted about 426 in use .https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_Numbering_Plan_area_codes. As you can see on this wiki page there are also gonna be rules to the numbering plan wich eliminate 0 and 1 as a first digit for a prefix or area code . As well as a few other rules wich will reduce overall possibilities. Anyone whos gonna try punch numbers should read up this thoroughly. You misunderstood me. I was not talking about narrowing down the search using area codes, I was talking about narrowing down the search using the prefixes associated to the area code 313 Also if there was a map showing the areas covered by the prefixes used in the 313 area code. There might be a way to narrow down the prefixes before we start bashing numbers into the key checker, and maybe by seeing how the prefixes are assigned, and whether they are geographical, this might be possible.
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Post by susb8383 on Oct 25, 2019 15:54:39 GMT -5
You've also got the possibility that 'the place where alchemy's best is found will help you win this game' refers to the Mirror of Erised, and indicates that we should take the correct 10 digits and enter them in backwards.
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Post by efanton on Oct 25, 2019 19:25:07 GMT -5
You've also got the possibility that 'the place where alchemy's best is found will help you win this game' refers to the Mirror of Erised, and indicates that we should take the correct 10 digits and enter them in backwards. Yes, I know, and worse the clue 'TURN' which I assume applies to stanza 5. We know by now that Lukas doesnt have 'simple' in his vocabulary and it is likely that he has done what you have said or something similar to prevent a simple solve or a brute force solve. But at the moment we have very limited options. I'm not prepared to try punches numbers with just the 313 and variations of what we have for stanza 5. There's simply too many possibilities and these get multiplied if as you suggested the number is reversed or manipulated in some way. If we had the prefix, or limited it to a few prefixes, then maybe it would be worth a try. I also hate having to sit idle until the next clue, but without narrowing down the prefixes I guess that's what we will have to do unless someone gets comes up with a breakthrough.
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Post by white0gre on Oct 27, 2019 18:11:44 GMT -5
Im new and have read most of the forums, youtube comments, Reddits, and its a lot so excuse me if Ive missed where something came from. Im trying to take notes as I go but Im new to all this.
I was curious where the google maps x came from. I saw the posted link above, but how was the x found?
also to check the number are you guys simply calling the number? since he seemed to emphasize that one didn't HAVE to call a number what if it was texted instead? could be easier.
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