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Jan 18, 2020 18:53:07 GMT -5
Post by rahrah on Jan 18, 2020 18:53:07 GMT -5
I think you may have. So tell me what my point is then. This was your reply to my adding the quote to the thread: To your point , that is correct, but the reverse is also true don't oversimplify it either. As said Forrest said some of the nouns used had different meanings when he looked them up in the dictionary.Your point appears to be contrary, for whatever reason, and you're continuing. I added the quote, for you and anyone else reading, to have as reference. I was not engaging in discussion about it.
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Post by CJ on Jan 19, 2020 8:11:59 GMT -5
I was just looking at all of the nouns, verbs, actions, etc...
The whole thing makes sense generally, but isn't the second sentence of the first stanza suspect:
I have gone...."and with"....and with doesn't make sense to me....it should be a verb...maybe that's the key word.
The whole rest of the poem generally makes sense. Begin it and take it. Look but tarry. Take and go. Go and leave. I've done it and I'm weak.
"I have gone and with"....that's sticking out to me.
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Jan 19, 2020 15:26:59 GMT -5
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Post by CJ on Jan 19, 2020 15:26:59 GMT -5
I was just looking at all of the nouns, verbs, actions, etc... The whole thing makes sense generally, but isn't the second sentence of the first stanza suspect: I have gone...."and with"....and with doesn't make sense to me....it should be a verb...maybe that's the key word. The whole rest of the poem generally makes sense. Begin it and take it. Look but tarry. Take and go. Go and leave. I've done it and I'm weak. "I have gone and with"....that's sticking out to me. Upon more thinking, maybe "and" is the key word...."in there with" would have been fine, right? I always substitute "as" with "because" - meaning, the reason - but why would he need to include "and" at the end? And backward is also DNA - and I've often thought that this might mean something....Just thinking out loud on my keyboard, as usual.
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Post by blacksummerrain on Jan 20, 2020 2:45:59 GMT -5
I believe the keyword to be "halt." I don't think he's referring to warm water halting. Read the first clue as though there is a question mark after "where." I think he's talking about a halt where you will find warm water. A halt is a stop that travellers made such as on the Oregon Trail. The halts were made where there was water or satisfactory camping conditions. Therefore, one can greatly narrow down the warm waters choices by finding one that accompanies an old wagon trail, etc. Or, the first clue could have an understood "you" on the end of it and refers to a spot where warm waters stop you from continuing.
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Jan 20, 2020 11:16:55 GMT -5
Post by Jenny on Jan 20, 2020 11:16:55 GMT -5
Welcome blacksummerrain..... that is an interesting take.... thanks for sharing...
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Jan 20, 2020 22:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by lbkgoat on Jan 20, 2020 22:08:21 GMT -5
An eye focuses. It has been pointed out quite a few times, that the EYE KEY stack in th poem, was posted within a day or so before Forrest made the "tight focus with a word that is key" comment. While I think he may have been playing off the EYE KEY, Im not at all convinced that is THE key word he was referring to. The eye of the eye can keep me standing. This is part of my stuff. Can you use it? I don’t have any hidden riddles in my solve, but I do have an eye
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Jan 29, 2020 7:47:21 GMT -5
Post by thrillchaser on Jan 29, 2020 7:47:21 GMT -5
the key word is a word in the poem that helps more than others.
as posted earlier in the thread a key unlocks so it will help you begin.
I liked home but warm is warming up to me now.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:11:32 GMT -5
Post by dalby2020 on Jan 29, 2020 20:11:32 GMT -5
I'm going to go in the opposite direction and say the key word is COLD.
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Jan 30, 2020 11:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by fennzenn on Jan 30, 2020 11:05:52 GMT -5
It’s such a strange phrase...where warm waters HALT...such an abrupt word and I can’t think of any natural means of making water instantly stop or halt other than maybe a dam which he has already ruled out...like a hot spring creek or river...Any temp change is gradual I would think...it seems wherever it is and whatever causes it is more abrupt
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Jan 31, 2020 15:30:25 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 31, 2020 15:30:25 GMT -5
It’s such a strange phrase...where warm waters HALT...such an abrupt word and I can’t think of any natural means of making water instantly stop or halt other than maybe a dam which he has already ruled out...like a hot spring creek or river...Any temp change is gradual I would think...it seems wherever it is and whatever causes it is more abrupt Think about what water does at the top of a geyser. And think about what Old Faithful does for the hour after an eruption.
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Post by fennzenn on Jan 31, 2020 18:16:55 GMT -5
It’s such a strange phrase...where warm waters HALT...such an abrupt word and I can’t think of any natural means of making water instantly stop or halt other than maybe a dam which he has already ruled out...like a hot spring creek or river...Any temp change is gradual I would think...it seems wherever it is and whatever causes it is more abrupt Think about what water does at the top of a geyser. And think about what Old Faithful does for the hour after an eruption. So WWWH is at a geyser...Old faithful or...?
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jan 31, 2020 18:49:52 GMT -5
You would have to have a reliable indicator from the poem to pick one over another (just like all the searchers who pick specific hot/warm springs). That would be one solution. There are others.
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Post by fennzenn on Jan 31, 2020 19:00:04 GMT -5
I can kinda see that as a possible 'solve' maybe...Otoh, water coming out of a geyser is boiling hot and the running into creeks to eventually become warm then cool then cold is a gradual thing...Maybe it IS the convergence of the Firehole River with the Madison River if the temp dramatically changes there which you think it might, but hasn't that area had (probably hundreds if not thousands) of searchers over the years ?
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Feb 1, 2020 19:16:03 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 1, 2020 19:16:03 GMT -5
Madison Junction is probably one of the most popular choices for WWWH. At least it addresses the plurality of "waters", making it a better choice than some random and arbitrary "warm springs creek." Still, it's not unique geographically in the four-state area -- or even within YNP. Also, neither the Firehole nor the Gibbon are particularly "warm" at the place they join, so there is no abrupt cessation of warmth at Madison Junction.
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Feb 2, 2020 14:21:34 GMT -5
Post by woollybugger on Feb 2, 2020 14:21:34 GMT -5
Does anyone else think the keyword is I/eye? An eye focuses. It has been pointed out quite a few times, that the EYE KEY stack in th poem, was posted within a day or so before Forrest made the "tight focus with a word that is key" comment. While I think he may have been playing off the EYE KEY, Im not at all convinced that is THE key word he was referring to.
Of course it's possible, but in seventeen dollars a square inch, he "narrowed the discussion to a tight focus, 'That's more than 33 bucks a minute when you're painting, and in the length of time it takes you to change brushes, you've made 55 cents." If consistent with this context, it basically means reframing.
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