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Post by theo on Nov 22, 2020 13:20:12 GMT -5
imgbox.com/jMC2vyxSMaking some more progress. If you notice above the dolphins neck it connects the orange to the orange of the globe. I think you're definitely on the right track here, and it's very impressive work!
A few suggestions: - The crossed arrows on the camper's spare tire cover suggest that our axis should be tilted to align with the golden key. Based on page 11, I would assume that the circle of the key should be at the top (north) and the teeth should be at the bottom.
- The keystone of the bridge has a "W" that would seem to mean "West." If the key is hanging down, it seems like the curve of the bridge should be lined up so that the horizontal axis goes through the "W" to the left (unless, of course, the image is flipped). But that might mess up the alignment of the leaves.
- The numbers on the globe's vertical holder seem important, but they don't quite work with the real degrees of the circle. Maybe we're only supposed to use part of the arc? Hard to tell where that's going.
Keep up the good work!
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Post by theo on Nov 23, 2020 9:39:47 GMT -5
He whispered back. “Those inconsistencies Of character can lead to trouble. Watch, O Brother Fox, how she holds still so these
Small rings can rise beyond us, towards her touch.
To follow up on my thought from yesterday: If the stone bridge on page 32 is the western arc of the circle and the "W stone" points west, then we have rings of smoke in that same image moving off to the left in our layout, but we don't have any obvious page to attach in that area.
Maybe the line about "small rings rising toward her touch" is telling us to put a woman's hand along that left (western edge). The three candidates that come to mind are pages 26, 40, and 51, although there may be others. The positioning of those tree trunks at the top of page 32 seems very deliberate. If the smoke rings really do connect to a woman's hand, the trees may line up with something else in the same image.
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Post by searcher1991 on Nov 24, 2020 18:24:03 GMT -5
imgbox.com/ZEuu2iMLThis is where I got with it. Notice the woman’s shirt matching with the colors on the reflection page, the Bell being symmetrical to the fox’s face in Jordan pond picture with the Bell itself being the eye, the pillars of the fire matching up with the book, and then the blue shirt for the guy in the car ended up matching up with the faire tree along with his red steering wheel matching the triangles on the faire collar shirt. There’s a bunch more even with cutting out the key page finishing the circle in the middle. The only thing I couldn’t match was the rest of the key page or get a final message from the puzzle! I sent my final guess to Pel and he said it was just a coincidence so I guess this was all wrong! Although maybe he was talking about the spot I thought it led to not the pictures forming a puzzle.
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Post by rarbowen on Nov 24, 2020 19:03:35 GMT -5
At least you hear back from him. I personally would count that a success. I have sent 4 answers in the past 13 years and never heard from him at all, and yes, I used the fox site and included my email address. I am sorry your solution did not work. I thought it was the best I have seen submitted.
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Post by dalby2020 on Nov 24, 2020 19:20:27 GMT -5
Very cool. I went through the book again today and noticed that it practically screams out "folding is involved!"
The biggest clue is Harley's map. You can see how folded up it is, yet some of the roads and waterways line up perfectly across the folds. Plus all the other weird folds like Neptune's right arm, proud old fop's newspaper and tablecloth, lobsterman's hat and gloves, and Chief Abnaki's map and shirt. The question still remains - will such folding lead to a message or reveal some sequence that can be taken into another part of the solve? I can't wait to see.
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Post by searcher1991 on Nov 24, 2020 19:30:25 GMT -5
When I finished this, I thought the borders were going to spell out a location but then I thought maybe you had to do a method a la masquerade with the final image and the borders that surround it.
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Post by thisjustin on Nov 24, 2020 20:15:44 GMT -5
For those that like folding pages, this was one of my favorites. Specifically, look just above the bottom left of the lens and how it lines up perfectly with the triangle on Abnaki's pants and then just below that it completes his boot. The fold on p. 19 is along the line that runs through Fandango's eye were there is an obvious split. imgbox.com/siMtVvwQYou can also add p. 5. Fold it along the thin red line that runs along the bottom of the spring house. Note how the white of the spring house lines up with Abnaki's hair and the trees line up on both the bridge and the tree just to the left of the bridge. Also the tree trunk and leaves to the right of Abnaki's head. This works when you align the top of p.5 with the top of p. 32. imgbox.com/yGwNAloX
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Post by seamus on Nov 24, 2020 23:26:16 GMT -5
I just want to post somewhere that every image has a hidden zodiac sign that once you figure it out from the image the text starts making allot more sence when looking at the key page. I'm very surprised more people didn't catch on to that. Lobster man is Aquarius. The camera produces pisces, so on and so forth. Can't wait to hear the full solution
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Post by theo on Nov 25, 2020 8:54:02 GMT -5
The problem with the folding approach is that it only produces straight edges, and it would take a lot of very tiny straight edges to approximate the curves that seem important. For example, we've already seen that the globe holder on page 30 and the bridge on page 32 match up to the outer edge of the camera lens on page 19. And that fox dangling down on page 47 forms an arc that fits perfectly on the inside of the camera circle. There's just no way to fit all of those parts together with folding.
My guess is that page 11 is giving us a very strong hint about how the final layout should be. We're expected to get out our X-Acto knives and cut up the pages into pieces that can be reassembled into a quilt. Some of the pieces will have straight edges, but some of them will be curved to fit around a circle. The final result will be a map showing us how to get to the key.
And maybe that's why this whole puzzle has never been solved. None of us want to get out our knives and cut up our copies of the book.
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Post by pumalion on Nov 25, 2020 9:29:05 GMT -5
And maybe that's why this whole puzzle has never been solved. None of us want to get out our knives and cut up our copies of the book.
I made photocopies long ago and tried cutting them up to match pieces from different pages. But I was focused on the borders at that point. It hadn't crossed my mind to match pieces from illustrations. So many possible strategies! Too bad no one has hit on the right one.
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Post by willfish on Nov 25, 2020 9:50:42 GMT -5
has anyone tried folding the illustrations into 5 point stars? the thought occurred to me this morning, but havent tried it yet....lol, last day! maybe if we could make stars out of the pictures, they would fit together to tell us something??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 0:47:09 GMT -5
has anyone tried folding the illustrations into 5 point stars? the thought occurred to me this morning, but havent tried it yet....lol, last day! maybe if we could make stars out of the pictures, they would fit together to tell us something?? Or maybe even a four pointed one like the back of the book. I personally abandoned this hunt last year after on and off years of frustration and just not getting anywhere good/solid. The folding technique is very interesting and I was reading along as it progressed. But it made me think of something new - and it’s probably too late for it now anyway - but has anyone tried putting half the images into a compass shape (maybe without folding?). So lobsterman would be the North part of the compass/circle; Abenaki would be the Western direction of the compass; the dolphin picture is your Eastern side... and fill in the rest of the compass/circle somehow? Maybe then you could get a NEW star code by drawing lines across the pages when they are arranged this way? Again - probably too late for it now.
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Post by pumalion on Nov 26, 2020 9:18:58 GMT -5
has anyone tried folding the illustrations into 5 point stars? the thought occurred to me this morning, but havent tried it yet....lol, last day! maybe if we could make stars out of the pictures, they would fit together to tell us something?? Or maybe even a four pointed one like the back of the book. ...has anyone tried putting half the images into a compass shape The red / yellow compass strikes me as a likely part of the solution. I like the idea of using pieces from the illustrations to assemble a new compass. If only we had more time.
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