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Post by davem on Dec 30, 2020 20:38:29 GMT -5
Don't try to steal my thunder! LOL
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 30, 2020 22:21:30 GMT -5
Well...I think it does matter somewhat in that if it is Dave, we can ignore every answer of his that was "I don't know, I didn't write it."
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Post by davem on Dec 30, 2020 22:29:11 GMT -5
Well...I think it does matter somewhat in that if it is Dave, we can ignore every answer of his that was "I don't know, I didn't write it." Agreed. He says it a little too much in the video too, I thought. But others have kinda pointed that out, too. He's feisty, strongly opinionated and cryptic. Perfect for a treasure hunt.
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Post by stones on Dec 31, 2020 1:26:12 GMT -5
Well...I think it does matter somewhat in that if it is Dave, we can ignore every answer of his that was "I don't know, I didn't write it." It doesn't matter. Not one bit. Read the book. Solve the riddles. Win the prizes.
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Post by susb8383 on Dec 31, 2020 12:43:16 GMT -5
In other words, don't watch any of his interviews and try to get some hints out of it. That's one tactic. Not mine.
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Post by LookAtThat on Jan 5, 2021 9:58:30 GMT -5
Remember he said there are lots of Anagrams everywhere Theco DeMaster = THE CODE MASTER...... he also wrote 2 other random books on Amazon.
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Post by pumalion on Jan 5, 2021 17:36:03 GMT -5
Remember he said there are lots of Anagrams everywhere Did he say this in one of his online interviews? Where did you hear it? The interview I watched, he was apologizing for saying in a previous interview that there were NO anagrams. He seemed to correct himself but the correction was hard to understand. My interpretation was that anagrams won't lead directly to a solution, but could help somehow. He gave an example of "stew = west," so I came away thinking there might be tiny clues to point us toward a solution but not the location/item solution itself. Also - how about Kangaroo Words? Do letters have to be in order? If "Theco Demaster" sets a precedent, can a kangaroo word jump a gap and be formed with letters from two words?
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Post by davem on Jan 5, 2021 20:35:31 GMT -5
Remember he said there are lots of Anagrams everywhere Did he say this in one of his online interviews? Where did you hear it? The interview I watched, he was apologizing for saying in a previous interview that there were NO anagrams. He seemed to correct himself but the correction was hard to understand. My interpretation was that anagrams won't lead directly to a solution, but could help somehow. He gave an example of "stew = west," so I came away thinking there might be tiny clues to point us toward a solution but not the location/item solution itself. Also - how about Kangaroo Words? Do letters have to be in order? If "Theco Demaster" sets a precedent, can a kangaroo word jump a gap and be formed with letters from two words? That's "Exactly" how I interpreted what Dave said in that interview, Puma. Paraphrasing -- "When you go to explain how you got to the Solve and the location of the item, using anagrams will NOT be used in your explanation of the method". Like you, I felt like the "stew = west" thing was a sneaky backtrack of apology but didn't really add anything of value to the conversation. Your question on kangaroo words, I feel, is maybe missing part of the question? Kangaroo words literally are what you asked they are ... right?
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Post by pumalion on Jan 6, 2021 10:22:43 GMT -5
Your question on kangaroo words, I feel, is maybe missing part of the question? Kangaroo words literally are what you asked they are ... right? The explanation of Kangaroo Words in the conversation between Alex and Patrick gives the examples of "f right" and "Kan garoo" with "right" and "gar" being the joey words inside of the pouch of the larger word. So those examples do not jump a gap - they are wholly contained within a single word and the letters are in order. If the "Theco DeMaster" example is valid wordplay for the hunt (or for the chapter where wordplay is discussed), this gives us one example of a word bridging the gap between words. In chapter 2, there is a joke name of a lawyer that creates a phrase when the first name and second name are read together. So maybe my question is answered by these examples. "Theco DeMaster" may not be a kangaroo word, but it could be wordplay. According to the rules laid out for us, though, it seems like they would have discussed an example like "Theco DeMaster" within the chapter if this was a valid path toward a clue. The chapter mentions "puns, plays on words, homophones" in addition to the discussion of kangaroo words. Those seem vague to me, though.
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Post by davem on Jan 6, 2021 11:40:16 GMT -5
Your question on kangaroo words, I feel, is maybe missing part of the question? Kangaroo words literally are what you asked they are ... right? The explanation of Kangaroo Words in the conversation between Alex and Patrick gives the examples of "f right" and "Kan garoo" with "right" and "gar" being the joey words inside of the pouch of the larger word. So those examples do not jump a gap - they are wholly contained within a single word and the letters are in order. If the "Theco DeMaster" example is valid wordplay for the hunt (or for the chapter where wordplay is discussed), this gives us one example of a word bridging the gap between words. In chapter 2, there is a joke name of a lawyer that creates a phrase when the first name and second name are read together. So maybe my question is answered by these examples. "Theco DeMaster" may not be a kangaroo word, but it could be wordplay. According to the rules laid out for us, though, it seems like they would have discussed an example like "Theco DeMaster" within the chapter if this was a valid path toward a clue. The chapter mentions "puns, plays on words, homophones" in addition to the discussion of kangaroo words. Those seem vague to me, though. Yeah you're right. Theco DeMaster isn't a kangaroo word example (no jumping gaps according to Wiki either even though I know we're not supposed to have to look things up). Here's the tricky part -- Wiki says that the joey word "can" be scattered throughout the original word and doesn't have to be spelled out with letters that are sitting next to each other. But that's not what the story's examples show. I'm going to continue to look for both ways. Good catch. (the funny lawyer name is in Chapter 3)
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Post by scottk on Jan 17, 2021 7:21:14 GMT -5
Just another little nugget that suggests Dave knows more than he lets on: In this AGK video at 34:22, when describing a hypothetical solution using Zilker Park, he says that you probably don't even need "park" in the solution; if you have Zilker, "Park" can be assumed. Which of course is the case with the chapter four solution that uses "Eldorado" instead of "Eldorado Park." If Dave didn't know the solutions, this would not only be an odd thing for him to mention randomly, but also highly coincidental that it accurately describes at least one of the solutions. youtu.be/CtzcIkPDycg?t=2061
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Post by susb8383 on Jan 17, 2021 7:40:41 GMT -5
Just another little nugget that suggests Dave knows more than he lets on: In this AGK video at 34:22, when describing a hypothetical solution using Zilker Park, he says that you probably don't even need "park" in the solution; if you have Zilker, "Park" can be assumed. Which of course is the case with the chapter four solution that uses "Eldorado" instead of "Eldorado Park." If Dave didn't know the solutions, this would not only be an odd thing for him to mention randomly, but also highly coincidental that it accurately describes at least one of the solutions. youtu.be/CtzcIkPDycg?t=2061HA! Good catch.
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Post by pumalion on Jan 17, 2021 12:19:19 GMT -5
Just another little nugget that suggests Dave knows more than he lets on: In this AGK video at 34:22, when describing a hypothetical solution using Zilker Park, he says that you probably don't even need "park" in the solution; if you have Zilker, "Park" can be assumed. Which of course is the case with the chapter four solution that uses "Eldorado" instead of "Eldorado Park." If Dave didn't know the solutions, this would not only be an odd thing for him to mention randomly, but also highly coincidental that it accurately describes at least one of the solutions. youtu.be/CtzcIkPDycg?t=2061In the online interviews I watched, Dave says he knows the solutions but not the methods for finding the solutions. So he has been open about the fact that he knows the solutions. For me, the most persuasive thing that convinced me Dave is not the author is that he said in one interview that anagrams are not used. In a subsequent interview, he said that there could be meaningful anagrams (he gave "west" and "stew" as an example) but that you will not use an anagram to spell out the location/item solution for any of the chapters. The change in Dave's information about anagrams tells me that the author of the puzzle ("Theco") had to tell Dave that his initial advice about anagrams was incorrect and that he should put out a public correction.
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Post by scottk on Jan 17, 2021 12:58:04 GMT -5
Just another little nugget that suggests Dave knows more than he lets on: In this AGK video at 34:22, when describing a hypothetical solution using Zilker Park, he says that you probably don't even need "park" in the solution; if you have Zilker, "Park" can be assumed. Which of course is the case with the chapter four solution that uses "Eldorado" instead of "Eldorado Park." If Dave didn't know the solutions, this would not only be an odd thing for him to mention randomly, but also highly coincidental that it accurately describes at least one of the solutions. youtu.be/CtzcIkPDycg?t=2061In the online interviews I watched, Dave says he knows the solutions but not the methods for finding the solutions. So he has been open about the fact that he knows the solutions. For me, the most persuasive thing that convinced me Dave is not the author is that he said in one interview that anagrams are not used. In a subsequent interview, he said that there could be meaningful anagrams (he gave "west" and "stew" as an example) but that you will not use an anagram to spell out the location/item solution for any of the chapters. The change in Dave's information about anagrams tells me that the author of the puzzle ("Theco") had to tell Dave that his initial advice about anagrams was incorrect and that he should put out a public correction. But in those interviews was he announcing that he "knows the solutions" merely in the sense that he knows where the proxy items are? Or does he "know the solutions" in the sense that he knows exactly what the code spells out? Obviously he knows the former, but has be specifically stated that he knows the latter? For instance, obviously he knew the silver Z was under a bench at Eldorado Park. But did he know that the code was "North Vegas Eldorado Bench Silver Z?" I see those two anagram statements as entirely consistent. They both state that anagrams are not used to solve the puzzle. And as far as I've seen, he's never implied that any anagrams could be "meaningful." In fact, he seemed to be using the west/stew example to state the exact opposite; that while there may be words in the solution that could create anagrams, the anagrams would be meaningless. As in, if "West" is part of the solution, the fact that it is an anagram of "stew" is meaningless.
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Post by davem on Jan 17, 2021 14:31:45 GMT -5
Just another little nugget that suggests Dave knows more than he lets on: In this AGK video at 34:22, when describing a hypothetical solution using Zilker Park, he says that you probably don't even need "park" in the solution; if you have Zilker, "Park" can be assumed. Which of course is the case with the chapter four solution that uses "Eldorado" instead of "Eldorado Park." If Dave didn't know the solutions, this would not only be an odd thing for him to mention randomly, but also highly coincidental that it accurately describes at least one of the solutions. youtu.be/CtzcIkPDycg?t=2061I thought he said that he did know the solutions.... just not the methodology..??
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