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Post by ronemund on Nov 17, 2021 22:14:00 GMT -5
Is it heresy in treasure hunting to just ever call it a day? I mean, this hunt is moving up on 30(! like close to half the average lifetime in the Western World) years, the author is dead, and now this odd stuff. Maybe it's time to just open up the archives and reveal the solution. Of course the die hards will never accept a solution that isn't theirs. But maybe get the solution from the one guy that maybe was close to Max before he kicks the bucket as well?
I guess everybody's convinced they're always almost there. Every treasure hunt, everybody always has the solution or is Just Right There, just give me another couple weeks and I got it! Nobody has gotten it in 30 years but step back, I have it right here! I don't have it exactly, but I am so close!
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Post by tootingjo on Nov 19, 2021 7:33:58 GMT -5
This was a treasure hunt with clear rules, and one of those rules (strange as it seems!) was that there would be no end date, it ended when the bronze owl was found. I always liked the fact that this is the longest running unsolved hunt, and the romance of someone solving a thing that no one else could solve, and digging up a prize where no one living knew the location. Now it has taken a strange twist, and some of that romance is gone, but I'll still keep going... I am so close!
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Post by ronemund on Nov 19, 2021 9:22:15 GMT -5
>it ended when the bronze owl was found
But according to this, the bronze owl can no longer be found. It was replaced with an iron owl. So why does that not end/invalidate the hunt?
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Post by tootingjo on Nov 22, 2021 12:33:26 GMT -5
>it ended when the bronze owl was found But according to this, the bronze owl can no longer be found. It was replaced with an iron owl. So why does that not end/invalidate the hunt? There was a rusted iron bird found in the hole where the solutions led. It was replaced with a new bronze owl by Michel Becker who has taken over the running of the hunt and as part of his new role as organiser he read the solution and dug to see what he would find. He will give the golden owl to anyone who can solve the hunt and find the replacement bronze owl. It is quite a complicated story, and no one knows why the original bronze owl was gone. Possibly the original hunt organiser placed it there, but he died in 2009, so we may never know.
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Post by ronemund on Nov 23, 2021 8:39:23 GMT -5
I understand the sequence of events. I was just asking - on a hunt that's moving up on 30 years, where the author is long dead, and it's discovered that the owl was removed under mysterious circumstances - why not just finally call it quits? If they dug where the owl was supposed to be and there was nothing, would they just have said, "Oh well" and buried another one? If the hunt was to continue until the bronze owl was found, and it was discovered that the bronze owl was no longer where it was supposed to be, why does that not end the hunt?
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Post by montrapier on Apr 12, 2022 9:16:31 GMT -5
I understand the sequence of events. I was just asking - on a hunt that's moving up on 30 years, where the author is long dead, and it's discovered that the owl was removed under mysterious circumstances - why not just finally call it quits? If they dug where the owl was supposed to be and there was nothing, would they just have said, "Oh well" and buried another one? If the hunt was to continue until the bronze owl was found, and it was discovered that the bronze owl was no longer where it was supposed to be, why does that not end the hunt? I have read that Michel buried another owl, I imagine it is about closure for all the people who have worked on the hunt all these years and may still find it, also what happens to the prize if they close the hunt there is no provision for this in the legals as far as I have heard?
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Post by montrapier on Apr 12, 2022 9:18:08 GMT -5
I understand the sequence of events. I was just asking - on a hunt that's moving up on 30 years, where the author is long dead, and it's discovered that the owl was removed under mysterious circumstances - why not just finally call it quits? If they dug where the owl was supposed to be and there was nothing, would they just have said, "Oh well" and buried another one? If the hunt was to continue until the bronze owl was found, and it was discovered that the bronze owl was no longer where it was supposed to be, why does that not end the hunt? Thinking in broader context it does a lot for our hobby if someone solves everything and gets the owl, as this is a bit negative at present ie. taken so long, shenanigans with the treasure and not finished etc.
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Post by inspectoralbion on Aug 30, 2022 18:09:17 GMT -5
I've moved away from hunting for the owl because of this reason.
There is a slow takeover of the Golden Owl. This was Max's hunt who I believe played fairly, but if you read Beckers website he portrays having a hand in creating the game.
Becker is taking control of the narrative for his own benefit.
The owl community is fantastic, I'm just no longer in the hunt and will monitor from afar.
I made a comment elsewhere on MW (relating to another hunt) that Becker finding the owl validates the game. I didnt want to get into the details there, but my view is it may/or may not be the right location, but that action does keep the hunt alive as there is definitely something to find buried in the ground.
P.s I support just sharing the solution and ending the hunt so I can see how far away I was from the right solution 😀
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Post by adrienloridan on Sept 7, 2022 3:23:37 GMT -5
you are forgetting an important thing, Michel Becker has been the co-author for 30 years, he is in on the secret. Before 2021 the game was no longer legal, Michel Becker restored the game, by creating an organizing company. I advise you to listen to the recordings of discord discussions with the players on youtube www.youtube.com/channel/UCUuqpfcE6SrlxLqhxVNswFAIn the fifth edition of the book (aug 2022), he explains a lot of things that took place behind the scenes, and in particular that he went to the "cache" three times in total, with different cars each time. He tried to ensure the presence of the 1/8 countermark without digging using ground radar. ++
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