meg
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Post by meg on Mar 5, 2018 19:16:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I know who the grandson is. I just wish I knew what the questions are!
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Grandson
Mar 6, 2018 12:55:26 GMT -5
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Mar 6, 2018 12:55:26 GMT -5
Once you make the connection with what was in Clue #1, your next step should reveal the grandson.
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Grandson
Mar 6, 2018 13:16:06 GMT -5
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Post by lavender on Mar 6, 2018 13:16:06 GMT -5
Hmmm I got clue #1 but I can’t find the connection
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Mar 6, 2018 19:55:55 GMT -5
There are other routes that will reveal the grandson, but finding the connection with Clue #1 is the most direct, and the least complicated. Perhaps someone on the forum may give a hint.
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Grandson
Mar 14, 2018 7:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by charlie32 on Mar 14, 2018 7:11:48 GMT -5
For me, the grandson was a series of steps to get to using Clue 1 and the clues in the art itself. But, I am confident in who it is as a result.
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Post by goldhunter on Mar 14, 2018 9:59:24 GMT -5
Any famous male is a famous grandson. I'm wondering if "A Famous Grandson" is an anagram.
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Grandson
Mar 14, 2018 10:56:35 GMT -5
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Mar 14, 2018 10:56:35 GMT -5
Don't waste your time on anagrams.
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Post by goldhunter on Mar 14, 2018 11:12:07 GMT -5
THANK YOU!
So, I guess "A Darn Famous Song" is useless.
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Grandson
Mar 14, 2018 12:04:38 GMT -5
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Mar 14, 2018 12:04:38 GMT -5
On the facebook page, I posted that in Clue #1 Helen Keller (I think most people figured out who she is) has one hand on a book and the other hand on a flower. You should have found a four letter word hidden in the art.
Once you find this word, you are not far from discovering the famous grandson.
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Grandson
Apr 12, 2018 8:29:27 GMT -5
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Apr 12, 2018 8:29:27 GMT -5
Can anyone reveal who the grandson is, and how they discovered him?
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Post by goldhunter on Apr 12, 2018 8:44:39 GMT -5
I actually had converted all the symbols to numbers using Clockwork Angels way before figuring out the "famous grandson." I had ran with Samuel Coleridge being the famous grandson and even looked into Orson Welles because of Citizen Kane- Xanadu and Rosebud (Helen Keller's rose picture).
One of your later clues spurred me onto figuring out who it was.
All the rabbit holes I've chase in the last few months really make me question how many researchers, scientists, investigators have put false information as fact because there was no one to rein them in.
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Post by roundabout on Apr 12, 2018 10:18:04 GMT -5
I made a very simple mistake with the grandson and went down a long rabbit hole when i first started the puzzle. I thought the musical instrument was a "koto" since the woman is wearing a kimono. The instrument looked just like the kotos I saw on the internet. (I didn't realize at the time that the kimono is a Rush reference.) Using "poem" and "koto" on Google,I found "Tale of Genji", which has a series of beautiful poems. In the very beginning first chapter, Genji's grandmother is a main character, and Genji is referred to as a grandson!!
I did try googling "zither" with "poem" and I did see Kubla Khan first thing, but I skipped it because I didn't think it fit with the puzzle's Japanese theme - LOL. Next time I work on a puzzle, I will keep my mind open in the beginning, and use a wider net. I should have checked "zither" also, because a koto is a type of zither. Zither is the broader term.
I did solve the musical notes right away and I did find the Rush Clockwork Angels symbols, so I was on the right path there. Then finally a few weeks ago, thanks to someone I started collaborating with, I finally realized I had the wrong grandson! LOL
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Post by rarbowen on Apr 12, 2018 11:16:34 GMT -5
Famous Grandson=Kublai Khan
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Post by razorback on Apr 12, 2018 13:13:03 GMT -5
The first equation, gives 9, 23, 1215, which is the birthdate of Kublai Khan. The second equation gives 2, 18, 1294, which is the death date of Kublai Khan. Then I looked up Kublai Khan and Poem. That gave me the poem by Coleridge, “Kubla Khan”.
That’s when I figured the famous grandson was Kublai Khan.
A confirmer was Clue #3, The famous grandson can tutor you in math. Khan Academy is a famous tutoring website,
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Grandson
Apr 12, 2018 14:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by artofhiddenmessages on Apr 12, 2018 14:31:17 GMT -5
People have arrived at the "grandson" in numerous ways. My intention however, was that once the braille clue, "poem", was discovered, if one would google elements in the art such as waning moon, dulcimer, floating hair, cave of ice, etc... you could discover the "Kubla Khan" poem. The word "dulcimer" along with "poem" especially produced hits.
I was hoping that next, one would fill in the numbers with the birth and death dates of Khan. If not, many of the puzzles worked together and overlapped, and acted as confirmers so you would know that you were on the right trail.
There was more to the math puzzle than just putting in Khan's birth and death dates...and that, I think, is where the fun began!
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