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Post by rahrah on Mar 30, 2018 15:00:32 GMT -5
So far as the poem being a riddle, a series of riddles, or have a riddle within to solve....I think it's a series of riddles based on the definition: a question or statement intentionally phrased so as to require ingenuity in ascertaining its answer or meaning. It's figuring out how to interpret how Fenn is using the very simple words in his poem - none of the words are complicated, yet they're complex in depth of meanings one can use - how's that for a puzzle to figure out? There are few words in the poem that don't have 100+ options to choose from when considering synonyms or ways to use a word, so how do you tease out what he means? I came up with my method, but I don't know it's right...others have other methods, those could be right too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 17:59:23 GMT -5
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Post by nkown on Mar 30, 2018 20:44:21 GMT -5
I believe it -- I just think that's a data fit. You can come up with any infinite number of synonyms, homonyms, and anagrams and stuff them into a re-ordering machine and come out with anything you imagine to be the case.
what we need here are rules that apply over and over again - - that's a system and a puzzle solve.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 21:54:51 GMT -5
I believe it -- I just think that's a data fit. You can come up with any infinite number of synonyms, homonyms, and anagrams and stuff them into a re-ordering machine and come out with anything you imagine to be the case. what we need here are rules that apply over and over again - - that's a system and a puzzle solve. Dang it! I guess I have to go get the dog-gone chest, Arrg! I really don't want to! That number is 68..... Just Kiddin! |
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Post by deeepthkr on Mar 31, 2018 1:46:33 GMT -5
I believe it -- I just think that's a data fit. You can come up with any infinite number of synonyms, homonyms, and anagrams and stuff them into a re-ordering machine and come out with anything you imagine to be the case. what we need here are rules that apply over and over again - - that's a system and a puzzle solve. Exactly! Nkown you get it. The 9 clues are more like 9 rules and/or criteria. An example would be "hint of riches new and old", if your solve involves anagrams then this would support your theorem. Create new words. Another: the end is ever drawing nigh, if your a puzzler using curtailments then it supports you: the end I sever.. Combine methods and use a reversal, curtailment and a phonetic change: the end is reeves. Now put it all in a poem with some hints. Ex: Lost in a maze of hell, the only sound is the ringing of the sails. Breaking my chains on the rocks below, fortunes turn my only beau. Reeve means sails or a rope through a ring. "sound" triggers a phonetic piece, 'turn' tells you it's a reversal. These are solely examples and shouldn't be taken seriously before operating heavy machinery. Now Rah did you look up the meaning of name Alba? You'll smile. Have any of you looked up the term "woo"? |
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Post by mikemarcum879 on Mar 31, 2018 9:21:14 GMT -5
In this episode of Forrest Fenn Friday we consider the idea that Look Quickly Down implies Look Under. Blog: Forrest Fenn Friday: Look Quickly DownVideo: What do you think look quickly down implies exactly? Or what might you look quickly down from? How about this thinking, all IMO? Page 91 ttotc - "Helicopters make a lot of noise so we agreed to stay only five minutes." Page 94 ttotc - "I had to hurry." In other words, look quickly. Followed by the gravestone marker words. Page 94 ttotc - "Those words burned in my brain and I can see them just as clearly now as I did then, when I was so rushed." So my gift to the chase is that "Look quickly down is less than five minutes." Now, marry that to the poem. I really like the idea that the chest might be obscured by an overhanging ledge (on a banco?) or stone covering the spot. The picture of the little Indian girl lefting up a slate of rock this could be the way forrest hid the TC. Now it acutely is in a tomb. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 7:59:26 GMT -5
There are 24 lines in the poem and if each line represents an hour. This would mean that the blaze is viewed after noon. It would also put “look quickly down’ into effect because of it’s shining brightness. Hence the word “wyes” ( not wyse like my mistake below) Below is a blaze that is not feasible to remove! The water system is true with this blaze. (unless I just couldn't see the reflection) Is it the right blaze? Probably not but a neat one.   |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 3:31:43 GMT -5
If you've be wise(like clockwork) and found(SE1/4ofNE1/4{SENE}) the blaze(the view from here is 'over'whelming)look quickly down(beside you) your quest to cease.
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Post by deeepthkr on Aug 28, 2018 4:36:52 GMT -5
We offer a thought on that in the video..and the blog... you could look under the 'blaze' (perhaps it is on a flat rock on the ground (and the chest is in a hole there?) --- or what ever else the blaze might be. No one KNOWS what the blaze is or they would have the chest. It's a thought and could be correct. And yes, it could be wrong. I surely admit that. And respect everyone's thoughts and thank you for them. Please know, I keep all reasonable options open (those that don't blatantly contradict what Forrest has stated). Obviously, and I say this in the previous video, even though I like the idea of 'looking under 'the blaze'...if I follow all the clues and find the blaze, and see something else that needs done, I won't complain. I'm sure others who hate the above idea, but yet if they were to follow all the clues, find the blaze, and it suggests the possibility of 'looking under'-- I think they will...lol.... The more options the better.... I would hate for someone to be thinking so strongly that the 'blaze' or 'final location' of the chest must be 'as they think'--that they miss it or walk right by it, because they hadn't considered other options. I've done this actually, in other hunts. And so from experience I know how easy it is to be set in a way, or thought, and realize after the fact it was wrong. In some case's I think when some one see a blaze they go right to it meaning right up on the blaze what did they just miss by doing this. Imo, and I soft cell that comment, the word down is referring to feathers and birds. The blaze is a bird. It's that simple. No trickery. Read my thread I just started. Im hoping to leave in morning but may have to wait for more than a week. The snow will have fallen by then but hopefully not to deep. Chest high is how high the mark will be. Typical of a blazed tree done by survey teams. It wasn't a survey marker we sought though. Take the chest was just a hint to the height and type of mark at final spot. I avoid using the word blaze though, because that isn't the blaze. Imo of course and you only have to wait anywhere from 2 to 13 days to find out. Remember this, I say it was only A glove that was used, so why did he say best to bring gloves....? |
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Post by deeepthkr on Aug 28, 2018 4:43:35 GMT -5
We offer a thought on that in the video..and the blog... you could look under the 'blaze' (perhaps it is on a flat rock on the ground (and the chest is in a hole there?) --- or what ever else the blaze might be. No one KNOWS what the blaze is or they would have the chest. It's a thought and could be correct. And yes, it could be wrong. I surely admit that. And respect everyone's thoughts and thank you for them. Please know, I keep all reasonable options open (those that don't blatantly contradict what Forrest has stated). Obviously, and I say this in the previous video, even though I like the idea of 'looking under 'the blaze'...if I follow all the clues and find the blaze, and see something else that needs done, I won't complain. I'm sure others who hate the above idea, but yet if they were to follow all the clues, find the blaze, and it suggests the possibility of 'looking under'-- I think they will...lol.... The more options the better.... I would hate for someone to be thinking so strongly that the 'blaze' or 'final location' of the chest must be 'as they think'--that they miss it or walk right by it, because they hadn't considered other options. I've done this actually, in other hunts. And so from experience I know how easy it is to be set in a way, or thought, and realize after the fact it was wrong. In some case's I think when some one see a blaze they go right to it meaning right up on the blaze what did they just miss by doing this. The final trick was to look at how indicator words are used by setters. There are a fountain of indicators contained within the poem. Since we're discussing blaze: found is an indicator of something transformed, thus an anagram. At this point it's been found... Now, to look quickly down, the term down hints at a vertical movement or placement. Those that were using anagramming programs never stood a chance. They were cheating themselves of a couple letters. Total anagrams in what I feel is the complete solve, totals 1. Just 1. |
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Post by deeepthkr on Aug 28, 2018 4:49:23 GMT -5
In this episode of Forrest Fenn Friday we consider the idea that Look Quickly Down implies Look Under. Blog: Forrest Fenn Friday: Look Quickly DownVideo: What do you think look quickly down implies exactly? Or what might you look quickly down from? How about this thinking, all IMO? Page 91 ttotc - "Helicopters make a lot of noise so we agreed to stay only five minutes." Page 94 ttotc - "I had to hurry." In other words, look quickly. Followed by the gravestone marker words. Page 94 ttotc - "Those words burned in my brain and I can see them just as clearly now as I did then, when I was so rushed." So my gift to the chase is that "Look quickly down is less than five minutes." Now, marry that to the poem. I really like the idea that the chest might be obscured by an overhanging ledge (on a banco?) or stone covering the spot. You are actually dead on, very accurate as it applies to the location and why. Nice job. |
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Post by deeepthkr on Aug 28, 2018 4:55:38 GMT -5
I believe it -- I just think that's a data fit. You can come up with any infinite number of synonyms, homonyms, and anagrams and stuff them into a re-ordering machine and come out with anything you imagine to be the case. what we need here are rules that apply over and over again - - that's a system and a puzzle solve. Since we have the real go-getters here and the two searchers I respect the most, I will tell you this: last chapter of book, he says he looked him up on Google. Man I just can't really say any more in the open. I will send you two a very short message that will contain three things for you to read. You can follow it's path or not. I hopefully leave tomorrow but that's gonna depend on work cooperating. And the snow. |
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Post by deeepthkr on Aug 28, 2018 4:57:29 GMT -5
If you've be wise(like clockwork) and found(SE1/4ofNE1/4{SENE}) the blaze(the view from here is 'over'whelming)look quickly down(beside you) your quest to cease. nſB2ſ2W _ne___nw_ __\___/__ ___\_/___ ____X____ ___/_\___ __/___\__ _se___sw_ Also accurate. Nice Job |
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Post by mikemarcum879 on Aug 28, 2018 5:56:21 GMT -5
If you've be wise(like clockwork) and found(SE1/4ofNE1/4{SENE}) the blaze(the view from here is 'over'whelming)look quickly down(beside you) your quest to cease. nſB2ſ2W _ne___nw_ __\___/__ ___\_/___ ____X____ ___/_\___ __/___\__ _se___sw_ Also accurate. Nice Job /N. / W.-------©-------E. / /S. Below 10200ft not less then 10000ft. Imo |
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Post by mikemarcum879 on Aug 28, 2018 7:10:51 GMT -5
In this episode of Forrest Fenn Friday we consider the idea that Look Quickly Down implies Look Under. Blog: Forrest Fenn Friday: Look Quickly DownVideo: What do you think look quickly down implies exactly? Or what might you look quickly down from? Look quietly down. If your "UP." a creek with water high you could find the blaze at a higher elevation.Now look quietly down when you notes the blaze. When you are going up the creek. This will give us two boarders to be in between from the the blaze and where you are standing. The poem has lead us in between two boarders where the TC sits.IMO. This is how my area was. |
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