The Wolf
Finding Forrest Fenn
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Post by The Wolf on Oct 23, 2018 10:55:42 GMT -5
Many have asked why did Mr. Fenn choose a poem as a way to hide clues. Sure he like poetry, but imo that is a cover. Songs are just poetry put to music. I am about to release the musical connection to each clue and how they all connect to a common theme. I mentioned it a couple of years ago with my follow the Starr theory, but Heidini recently brought it up so why not talk about it.
I should start with clue one but that is too dangerous so I will keep that in the searcher's blog for now, but I would like to tie in Mr. Fenn's sleight-of-hand technique. When Forrest Fenn said,
"The most common mistake that I see searchers make is that they underestimate the importance of the first clue. If you don't have that one nailed down you might as well stay home and play Canasta."
Now with the card theme in "Fate deals you four cars and a joker and you play whether you like it or not" we assume that play Canasta means the card game and in a puzzle that is what the creator want us to think and it worked. But the critical mind has to tune into Fenn's thought mentality and decode it to another common theme which is key.
Heidini has picked up on this and has linked it to the song "I'm waiting for ships that never come in" by Kay Starr. So lets take the song theme a bit further; Fenn says "play" Canasta, but we can "play" a song too. Canasta is a Chicago based band, so we can play songs form the band Canasta. That is more puzzle like don't you think?
Chicago has a very important twist to this story if anyone has been following my writings.
Now this is where it gets really interesting, one of their more famous songs by Canasta is Just a Star. So follow the star is where you start, the nailed down concept is explained in compelling detail on my Searchers blog if anyone really is interested in solving clue one.
There are a couple of other songs by Canasta that have subtle hints, but one that links to the poem that others might find interesting is "Two If by Sea" Ever ask what if? It is a mighty big work for only two letters. Think quest two seas...
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Post by heidini on Oct 23, 2018 12:10:46 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf, for the shout out.
Joker, joker, joker!!! I remember an old television game show. Joker’s Wild? I feel joker is the link. Canasta is special for its use of 4 jokers. Joker was the lyric change in the Kay Starr song.
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Post by The Wolf on Oct 23, 2018 12:41:43 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf, for the shout out. Joker, joker, joker!!! I remember an old television game show. Joker’s Wild? I feel joker is the link. Canasta is special for its use of 4 jokers. Joker was the lyric change in the Kay Starr song. Sticking to the Song theme with your Joker concept. Steve Miller and "The Joker" Here is another writeup I posted a couple of years ago linking the poem to music. The Starr that unlocks the poem.
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Post by sacrosanct on Oct 24, 2018 14:03:15 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf, for the shout out. Joker, joker, joker!!! I remember an old television game show. Joker’s Wild? I feel joker is the link. Canasta is special for its use of 4 jokers. Joker was the lyric change in the Kay Starr song. Sticking to the Song theme with your Joker concept. Steve Miller and "The Joker" Here is another writeup I posted a couple of years ago linking the poem to music. The Starr that unlocks the poem. Wolf, does your brain feel like a blender? Cuz mine sure does after reading the post you linked. And what's amazing to me is that I followed everything you said, so it was like "Heck, this guy knows what he's talking about". But my brain hurt. I don't think my brain is supposed to hurt chasing this treasure. But I've been wrong before. Good one Wolf!
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Post by The Wolf on Oct 24, 2018 15:34:38 GMT -5
Sticking to the Song theme with your Joker concept. Steve Miller and "The Joker" Here is another writeup I posted a couple of years ago linking the poem to music. The Starr that unlocks the poem. Wolf, does your brain feel like a blender? Cuz mine sure does after reading the post you linked. And what's amazing to me is that I followed everything you said, so it was like "Heck, this guy knows what he's talking about". But my brain hurt. I don't think my brain is supposed to hurt chasing this treasure. But I've been wrong before. Good one Wolf! ha! Now you are a funny guy, yet you have pretty good incite as to how I feel. To answer your question. Yes at times my brain hurts a lot. I have written many comparable and equally painfully researched articles over the past 5 years. All on topics I feel are tangentially touching each clue answer yet missing something simple to connect it all together. That has been the most painful part, digging deep, working hard, yet finding something that simplifies it all. That has finally occurred, and I have managed to link all this research together and linked pretty much every single spoken Fenn word to a solution, but a solution that is riddle simple and theme based. As I am currently writing it out, I am sticking to poem only solution (now who would ever think I am a poem purist?! lol) but occasionally referring to these non-poem tangential solutions. IT all comes down to a very simple answer - follow the star using a contiguous clue technique. But here is the tricky part, can I get it down to such a simple solution that a redneck could follow, yet have a complex series of proofs that explains MR. Fenn's 15 years of creating this monster? So yah, my brain hurts, blender bad!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 16:40:28 GMT -5
Wolf, does your brain feel like a blender? Cuz mine sure does after reading the post you linked. And what's amazing to me is that I followed everything you said, so it was like "Heck, this guy knows what he's talking about". But my brain hurt. I don't think my brain is supposed to hurt chasing this treasure. But I've been wrong before. Good one Wolf! ha! Now you are a funny guy, yet you have pretty good incite as to how I feel. To answer your question. Yes at times my brain hurts a lot. I have written many comparable and equally painfully researched articles over the past 5 years. All on topics I feel are tangentially touching each clue answer yet missing something simple to connect it all together. That has been the most painful part, digging deep, working hard, yet finding something that simplifies it all. That has finally occurred, and I have managed to link all this research together and linked pretty much every single spoken Fenn word to a solution, but a solution that is riddle simple and theme based. As I am currently writing it out, I am sticking to poem only solution (now who would ever think I am a poem purist?! lol) but occasionally referring to these non-poem tangential solutions. IT all comes down to a very simple answer - follow the star using a contiguous clue technique. But here is the tricky part, can I get it down to such a simple solution that a redneck could follow, yet have a complex series of proofs that explains MR. Fenn's 15 years of creating this monster? So yah, my brain hurts, blender bad! The "IT." Ties wwwh and canyon down together making it one clue.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Oct 24, 2018 21:09:04 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf, for the shout out. Joker, joker, joker!!! I remember an old television game show. Joker’s Wild? I feel joker is the link. Canasta is special for its use of 4 jokers. Joker was the lyric change in the Kay Starr song. Kay was what, the 7th person to cover the song? Why single her out? The lyric change is the main clue, and the original singer is a secondary clue, IMO.
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Post by heidini on Oct 24, 2018 21:35:41 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf, for the shout out. Joker, joker, joker!!! I remember an old television game show. Joker’s Wild? I feel joker is the link. Canasta is special for its use of 4 jokers. Joker was the lyric change in the Kay Starr song. Kay was what, the 7th person to cover the song? Why single her out? The lyric change is the main clue, and the original singer is a secondary clue, IMO. I’m not really singling out Kay Starr. I was just using the name “star“ because of wolf’s idea of “follow the star.” I was just using “the Kay Starr song“ as a reference to the actual lyrics And the associated change from Forrest. For me it’s easier to say “the kay starr song” rather than saying “the ship that may never come in” song. I don’t think it has anything to do with any of the singers of that song. I do think it has to do with the joker.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Oct 24, 2018 23:17:03 GMT -5
Hi Heidini: sorry, that came across wrong. I knew YOU weren't the one championing the Starr idea: you were just restating the situation. I don't completely dismiss the idea that Kay Starr was the intended hint, after all there are stars all over the cover of OUAW, plus all the asterisk references, Lone Star beer, etc.
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Post by sacrosanct on Oct 25, 2018 3:23:37 GMT -5
ha! Now you are a funny guy, yet you have pretty good incite as to how I feel. To answer your question. Yes at times my brain hurts a lot. I have written many comparable and equally painfully researched articles over the past 5 years. All on topics I feel are tangentially touching each clue answer yet missing something simple to connect it all together. That has been the most painful part, digging deep, working hard, yet finding something that simplifies it all. That has finally occurred, and I have managed to link all this research together and linked pretty much every single spoken Fenn word to a solution, but a solution that is riddle simple and theme based. As I am currently writing it out, I am sticking to poem only solution (now who would ever think I am a poem purist?! lol) but occasionally referring to these non-poem tangential solutions. IT all comes down to a very simple answer - follow the star using a contiguous clue technique. But here is the tricky part, can I get it down to such a simple solution that a redneck could follow, yet have a complex series of proofs that explains MR. Fenn's 15 years of creating this monster? So yah, my brain hurts, blender bad! Well, I'm a redneck if you need a test subject. Good Luck Wolf.
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Post by lookinup on Oct 25, 2018 9:29:52 GMT -5
Sill starry eyed after all these years - Yep, I sure am!
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Post by drpepperwood on Nov 5, 2018 1:13:19 GMT -5
Catch a falling star and put it in your pocket...
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Post by lookinup on Nov 13, 2018 12:14:59 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolf, for the shout out. Joker, joker, joker!!! I remember an old television game show. Joker’s Wild? I feel joker is the link. Canasta is special for its use of 4 jokers. Joker was the lyric change in the Kay Starr so Still get a kick out of this Joker!
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Post by heidini on Nov 13, 2018 17:19:33 GMT -5
Catch a falling star and put it in your pocket... A drip of inspiration from heaven.
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Post by heidini on Nov 13, 2018 18:36:29 GMT -5
Catch a falling star and put it in your pocket... A drip of inspiration from heaven. Hey, Wolf. Have you looked up mazel yet? Mazel tov. A drip from heaven. Constellation. Follow the star.
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