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Post by locolobo on Dec 8, 2018 11:49:29 GMT -5
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Post by goldwatch on Dec 8, 2018 11:55:10 GMT -5
Actually, not so much a Cross of Lorraine as a Pueblo Cross (more relevant to someone with Forrest's interests). Note the similarity between a Pueblo Cross and a dragonfly: another favorite of Forrest's (as evidenced by its inclusion on some of his jars/bells). Yes. The dragonfly. "The dragonfly inspires spiritually and creatively and helps us on the path of discovery and enlightenment." -and- "It spiritually embodies the stripping away all negativity that holds us back, helping us to achieve our dreams and goals." -and- "Dragonfly is the keeper of dreams, the energy within that sees all of our true potential and ability. Dragonfly reminds us that anything is possible." Look at how similar that is to the picture on page 219, TFTW. It's only missing the dragonfly eyes/head. More at the link: nativeamericanjewelrytips.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/dragonfly-and-the-isleta-cross/The depth of this chase is about more than a treasure of gold.
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Post by goldwatch on Dec 8, 2018 11:58:43 GMT -5
Isn't Arizona State Museum (from that picture) the one mentioned by Forrest in the earlier days? I wasn't around then, so I'd have to dig around to find that. Maybe someone can save me some time.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Dec 8, 2018 17:52:50 GMT -5
For the record, and to assuage Loco, neither the Lorraine Cross nor the Pueblo Cross were my ideas. It may in fact have been Locolobo who originally and correctly identified that cross as being a Pueblo Cross.
What I think is important about that cross in TFTW (as with all the illustrations that made it into the end papers of the book) is that it points at the entombed pot and box-shaped basket.
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Post by heidini on Dec 8, 2018 18:07:53 GMT -5
Actually, not so much a Cross of Lorraine as a Pueblo Cross (more relevant to someone with Forrest's interests). Note the similarity between a Pueblo Cross and a dragonfly: another favorite of Forrest's (as evidenced by its inclusion on some of his jars/bells). Yes. The dragonfly. "The dragonfly inspires spiritually and creatively and helps us on the path of discovery and enlightenment." -and- "It spiritually embodies the stripping away all negativity that holds us back, helping us to achieve our dreams and goals." -and- "Dragonfly is the keeper of dreams, the energy within that sees all of our true potential and ability. Dragonfly reminds us that anything is possible." Look at how similar that is to the picture on page 219, TFTW. It's only missing the dragonfly eyes/head. More at the link: nativeamericanjewelrytips.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/dragonfly-and-the-isleta-cross/The depth of this chase is about more than a treasure of gold. “The depth of this chase is about more than a treasure of gold.” Yup.
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Post by goldwatch on Dec 8, 2018 20:41:36 GMT -5
For the record, and to assuage Loco, neither the Lorraine Cross nor the Pueblo Cross were my ideas. It may in fact have been Locolobo who originally and correctly identified that cross as being a Pueblo Cross. What I think is important about that cross in TFTW (as with all the illustrations that made it into the end papers of the book) is that it points at the entombed pot and box-shaped basket. That's the way I see it. I thought this was common knowledge and theory on how the chest might be hidden. I mean, it's such an obvious connection. I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes. Honestly, it takes so much more to get any real benefit from this that I didn't think this revelation alone would mean very much, except to point out that it does mean something, like everything else.
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Post by heidini on Dec 8, 2018 22:26:48 GMT -5
A while ago, Jenny put out a theory of a sunken pot. I think one of the definitions of genius is coming to a conclusion on your own that others have come to know previously or otherwise. I think there are a lot of geniuses on our same quest. Everyone is exposed to all the same stuff, but sometimes we understand it in our own time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 12:15:10 GMT -5
WWWH, Where = Location Warm = warm to the touch Waters = two bodies of water Halt = no longer warm to the touch maybe WWWH is a location where water that is warm to the touch meets another (cold) body of water and then is no longer warm to the touch. Seems simple. Then flows into a canyon, In one of my 4 solves in New Mexico and Colarodo at the border is a wwwh.
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Post by drpepperwood on Dec 14, 2018 1:06:37 GMT -5
WWWH, Where = Location Warm = warm to the touch Waters = two bodies of water Halt = no longer warm to the touch maybe WWWH is a location where water that is warm to the touch meets another (cold) body of water and then is no longer warm to the touch. Seems simple. Then flows into a canyon, In one of my 4 solves in New Mexico and Colarodo at the border is a wwwh. Mike I finally found something in New Mexico that made since. I wonder if others have thought of it. Dal has a solve close to the location wwwh. I believe he was close. 2015 solve. Chilly New Mexico was is wwwh but I think he was close but had the wrong wwwh by mistake.
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Post by Dolfseal on Feb 1, 2019 11:29:46 GMT -5
I am guessing most people don't know this because I have not seen it posted anywhere (not that I have been on many boards), but there are two types of springs that come to my mind. There are the usual "hot springs", and there are "warm springs". If you look on Google Maps, there are at least 3 warm springs listed just below Brown's Canyon national monument along the Arkansas River (look for Wellville and you will see one of them) . FF is telling us to start there and follow the clues and river down. The rest of the clues line up nicely.
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Post by Dolfseal on Feb 1, 2019 12:02:39 GMT -5
I am guessing most people don't know this because I have not seen it posted anywhere (not that I have been on many boards), but there are two types of springs that come to my mind. There are the usual "hot springs", and there are "warm springs". If you look on Google Maps, there are at least 3 warm springs listed just below Brown's Canyon national monument along the Arkansas River (look for Wellville and you will see one of them) . FF is telling us to start there and follow the clues and river down. The rest of the clues line up nicely. My bad, look up Wellsville Warm Springs, I forgot the "s".
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Post by Dolfseal on Feb 1, 2019 12:10:23 GMT -5
I am guessing most people don't know this because I have not seen it posted anywhere (not that I have been on many boards), but there are two types of springs that come to my mind. There are the usual "hot springs", and there are "warm springs". If you look on Google Maps, there are at least 3 warm springs listed just below Brown's Canyon national monument along the Arkansas River (look for Wellville and you will see one of them) . FF is telling us to start there and follow the clues and river down. The rest of the clues line up nicely. My bad, look up Wellsville Warm Springs, I forgot the "s". Also see "Swissvale warm springs" and "Browns Canyon warm spring" on Google maps. From there you are close to the blaze and "wood". Heavy loads and water high was the tough one, but that is about the exact spot once you are standing in the wood. Is about a 2 hour drive for me, I'll let you know the next time i make it down there. I just figured out the heavy loads and water high, that's why i was unsuccessful the last time i was down there.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Feb 1, 2019 13:30:56 GMT -5
Hi Dolfseal: that area has been searched to death. Unfortunately, literally.
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Post by Dolfseal on Feb 2, 2019 9:58:29 GMT -5
Hi Dolfseal: that area has been searched to death. Unfortunately, literally. Thanks Zaphod73491, but that area is a point in route to the final destination, its not an area that should be searched. The clues are indeed landmarks along the map, it gets more specific as you go, with heavy loads and water high being exactly where it is within the wood. I will check it out, if I find nothing I will share my take on the clues in an effort to help the bigger collective. The way I am looking at the clues takes me to an exact spot, no searching necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 10:31:21 GMT -5
Hi Dolfseal: that area has been searched to death. Unfortunately, literally. Thanks Zaphod73491, but that area is a point in route to the final destination, its not an area that should be searched. The clues are indeed landmarks along the map, it gets more specific as you go, with heavy loads and water high being exactly where it is within the wood. I will check it out, if I find nothing I will share my take on the clues in an effort to help the bigger collective. The way I am looking at the clues takes me to an exact spot, no searching necessary. The clues takes me to the end of the 12ft that ends up in a crack in the hill with a small water fall.
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