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Post by drpepperwood on Oct 27, 2018 11:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 12:08:04 GMT -5
What are you trying say friend it's going over my head.😁 can you help a redneck hillbilly out. Dorn teeth fail out of my mouth.lol
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Post by drpepperwood on Oct 27, 2018 12:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by drpepperwood on Oct 27, 2018 12:36:43 GMT -5
One thing that stood out was the word rosewater and spices like cloves. It was in the first link I posted.
Here's the exact wording. "rosewater, amber, camphor, cardamoms, cinnamon, cloves,
pomegranates, and all manner of flowers or spices that are
fragment to smell or fair to see/'"
Maybe hoB is referring to a name of a spice?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 12:57:33 GMT -5
drpepperwood. To many big words over there. Look I stay with the small words. Example.big words Sir your very intelligent. Small words. Man your smart. See how easy that was.😂
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Post by robjohnson on Nov 30, 2018 9:57:12 GMT -5
What I find interesting:
pg. 129 - An excited antique scholar said the chest was probably a Romanesque Lock Box that dated to about 1150 AD.
It seems the chest is of Gothic influence from a century later - another aberration.
The chest appears to be not as old, and the word excited seems to stand out a little.
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Post by lookinup on Nov 30, 2018 11:07:02 GMT -5
The word "embellish" is something else isn't it?
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Post by lookinup on Nov 30, 2018 12:27:43 GMT -5
One thing that stood out was the word rosewater and spices like cloves. It was in the first link I posted. Here's the exact wording. "rosewater, amber, camphor, cardamoms, cinnamon, cloves, pomegranates, and all manner of flowers or spices that are fragment to smell or fair to see/'" Maybe hoB is referring to a name of a spice?
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Post by lookinup on Nov 30, 2018 12:37:12 GMT -5
In keeping with what appears to be the trend of this AM; the story of "Manual of Gaul" has a curious connection with.....Clovis: "Most of Gaul was conquered by Clovis in the early 6th century and became the Kingdom of Franks."
In addition:
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Post by CJ on Nov 30, 2018 13:31:59 GMT -5
That has been posted before, but is certainly what is depicted on the chest. The question is whether or not THIS scene or THIS chest had any bearing on the chase, the riddle, the poem, the clues, the location, etc... or if FF just happened to find it, thought it was fantastic, and decided to use it (and it has nothing to do with the complete solve.
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Post by drpepperwood on Dec 1, 2018 14:32:47 GMT -5
That has been posted before, but is certainly what is depicted on the chest. The question is whether or not THIS scene or THIS chest had any bearing on the chase, the riddle, the poem, the clues, the location, etc... or if FF just happened to find it, thought it was fantastic, and decided to use it (and it has nothing to do with the complete solve. I think it depicts the war (seige). "And what I’ve learned that’s most important is that both countries and people should know enough to just leave other folks alone and do a better job of protection our planet." TTOTC Ladders War Fort Castle Church shields borders boundaries equality Maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 14:42:18 GMT -5
That has been posted before, but is certainly what is depicted on the chest. The question is whether or not THIS scene or THIS chest had any bearing on the chase, the riddle, the poem, the clues, the location, etc... or if FF just happened to find it, thought it was fantastic, and decided to use it (and it has nothing to do with the complete solve. I think it depicts the war (seige). "And what I’ve learned that’s most important is that both countries and people should know enough to just leave other folks alone and do a better job of protection our planet." TTOTC Ladders War Fort Castle Church shields borders boundaries equality Maybe? The ladders of war the fort within the castle the church is the shield borders within the boundaries for all to share equality.
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Post by CJ on Dec 1, 2018 14:55:18 GMT -5
Assuming that this "scene" has meaning in the search, consider that it's allegory (metaphor)....and that scene is "Attack on the Castle of the Church by the World".
It has deep meaning....this art...and could have meaning (meaning, but not anything to do with a solve) to FF and the search - in that, this scene (in my opinion) is about defending traditional values against the decay introduced by the ever changing world. This is something that FF has talked about often - about how "times were different" when he was a kid - and the worst thing kids did back then was to smoke cigarettes....
I still don't think that it has anything to do with the solve, but I DO think that FF researched this scene, knew what it meant, and thought that it fit well with the message that he was trying to send in creating the chase.
On a final note, I will say that one of my theories is that the "puzzle" is tied to "last stands" - The Alamo, Elfego Baca, Custer, etc.. - and that this art could potentially be considered a "last stand" by the church against the ravages of "the world". Trying not to stretch into confirmation bias land here - and again, I think it has meaning - and means something to FF - but doesn't help solve the puzzle.
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Post by astree on Dec 1, 2018 14:59:12 GMT -5
That has been posted before, but is certainly what is depicted on the chest. The question is whether or not THIS scene or THIS chest had any bearing on the chase, the riddle, the poem, the clues, the location, etc... or if FF just happened to find it, thought it was fantastic, and decided to use it (and it has nothing to do with the complete solve. Good question. We know it isnt exactly the same as the Indulgence chest, but theme looks the same. This theme was in use in that era for various item. the castle siege (war) was used in the symbolic way on chests, cases, etc to represent the battle for a womans heart. i had been told years ago that prior to the Middle Ages, romantic ideas were not used as a theme (as for example, Gueniviere and Lancelot). Not sure i buy into that, as proof was not cited, and much older texts (eg, song of Solomon) have romantic themes. Anyway, certain aspects, such as chivalry, do appear to have developed during that time along with the Siege on the Castle of Love.
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