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Post by heidini on Nov 11, 2018 22:36:49 GMT -5
Well... all I know is, I posted that... determining the poem, had an element of TIME involved in completing the solve... and I got laughed at. That's...in part...why you don't see me post much anymore.  No one is going to laugh at you. This is not the place for that. Post away! What YOUR thoughts on time? |
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Post by jdiggins on Nov 12, 2018 11:13:05 GMT -5
Well... all I know is, I posted that... determining the poem, had an element of TIME involved in completing the solve... and I got laughed at. That's...in part...why you don't see me post much anymore. Iron will, I really miss your posts. You always had clever and well thought out contributions. Please come back! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 11:26:28 GMT -5
Well... all I know is, I posted that... determining the poem, had an element of TIME involved in completing the solve... and I got laughed at. That's...in part...why you don't see me post much anymore. Iron will, I really miss your posts. You always had clever and well thought out contributions. Please come back! Iron I don't know you but fresh ideas would work. I don't think all of mine are out side box to much. So set back take a breather and get up a swinging. |
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 12, 2018 13:13:17 GMT -5
Iron Will has always been a little sensitive. Back in 2015, I posted my theory of time and an example about where the element of time is in the poem and how it is used. No one laughed, all the feedback I recieved really appreciated that part. The Omega connection is my latest reveal of time. The only time people laugh is when the theories are too far out there. I have a few of those, but it is part of the process of discovery.
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 12, 2018 13:42:27 GMT -5
The only astronaut to have walked on the moon with the Omega watch that was not a test pilot was a geologist. His name was Harrison Hagan Schmitt and was the 12th and second last to walk on the moon with Apollo 17. There are a few reasons I believe this to be important 1) The name "Harrison" has that Harrison Ford feel to it. ("There must be a few Indiana Jones types out there" and the multiple Ford references in TTOTC) 2) Hagan (his middle name) also appears in close resemblance in TTOTC in the aberration "Haagen Dazs" which is actually spelled HÄAGEN-DAZS. 3) Schmitt is subliminally close to Schmidt as in Schmidt–Cassegrain as type of telescope ( Cassegrian loosely hinted by "Come and see my shining palace (castle) built upon the sand!). The telescope is answer to "tight focus with a word that is key". See mysteriouswritings.proboards.com/thread/2547/follow-star-solution?page=1 (My follow the star/telescope connection) The one connection that I find the most interesting, is that Schmidt took the most downloaded photo of all time. "The Blue Marble" The Spanish Toy Factory and MR. Fenn's marble creation is an interesting link that I talked a lot about in my book Finding Forrest Fenn. There is much more to this hint/clue link that I have written of in my searcher's blog and the connection to Fenn's thumb and Apollo 8/13. |
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Post by goldwatch on Nov 12, 2018 15:00:03 GMT -5
Iron Will has always been a little sensitive. Back in 2015, I posted my theory of time and an example about where the element of time is in the poem and how it is used. No one laughed, all the feedback I recieved really appreciated that part. The Omega connection is my latest reveal of time. The only time people laugh is when the theories are too far out there. I have a few of those, but it is part of the process of discovery. No, he really hasn't. Considering that at the time people were making fun of him for saying something simple, he wasn't being too sensitive at all. He was just reacting like anyone else. And he does have some great ideas. Just like you do. The both of you are among the few who really put out some good stuff. |
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Post by goldwatch on Nov 12, 2018 15:12:37 GMT -5
Wolfie, the Blue Marble idea of yours is interesting to me because of the star map ideas and flyer navigation and similar stuff.
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 12, 2018 19:55:36 GMT -5
Wolfie, the Blue Marble idea of yours is interesting to me because of the star map ideas and flyer navigation and similar stuff. I initially used or linked it to Marble Co. as per my final story in my book. I have since linked it to Apollo 8, and the thumb Philadelphia incident. It has more of a follow the star theme for me now. Good to see others finding connections. |
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 12, 2018 20:30:28 GMT -5
Iron Will has always been a little sensitive. Back in 2015, I posted my theory of time and an example about where the element of time is in the poem and how it is used. No one laughed, all the feedback I recieved really appreciated that part. The Omega connection is my latest reveal of time. The only time people laugh is when the theories are too far out there. I have a few of those, but it is part of the process of discovery. No, he really hasn't. Considering that at the time people were making fun of him for saying something simple, he wasn't being too sensitive at all. He was just reacting like anyone else. And he does have some great ideas. Just like you do. The both of you are among the few who really put out some good stuff. I am just testifying that suggesting time is in the poem is an interesting concept. Many feel it is important and no one has ever laughed at "time", maybe other things but certainly not time. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Nov 12, 2018 22:28:42 GMT -5
I certainly don't laugh at unconventional thoughts regarding poem interpretation. Time as a factor is almost approaching the point of "conventional". Certainly Seeker is a fan of that possibility.
But ultimately I think 3 dimensions and not 4 is the domain. Within 2 years searchers got within 500 feet of the treasure, by luck or design. So I guess ask yourself if Forrest's self-described "redneck with 12 kids" would focus his or her efforts on geologic layers, plate tectonics, geomorphology, and so forth.
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Post by The Wolf on Nov 13, 2018 0:49:27 GMT -5
I certainly don't laugh at unconventional thoughts regarding poem interpretation. Time as a factor is almost approaching the point of "conventional". Certainly Seeker is a fan of that possibility. But ultimately I think 3 dimensions and not 4 is the domain. Within 2 years searchers got within 500 feet of the treasure, by luck or design. So I guess ask yourself if Forrest's self-described "redneck with 12 kids" would focus his or her efforts on geologic layers, plate tectonics, geomorphology, and so forth. Interesting comments Zap. You know as the game advanced for me, my understanding of this solution has changed a lot. I have learned to put myself in FF's shoes and considered his cryptic interaction and I feel this is more puzzle oriented. For instance there are things in that book TTOTC that are subtle. I think they are more subtle than he realized and he had to bring more attention to them over the years. So when I hear "redneck," "pickup" and "bedroll" repeated over and over, I think, what could he be emphasizing in the book? Here is the quote in the book that needs to be considered when he repeats redneck, pickup truck and bedroll, "There must be a few Indiana Jones types out there, like me, ready to throw a bedroll in the pickup and start searching, with a reasonable chance of discovering a treasure chest containing more than twenty troy pounds of gold."Notice my three bullets in my previous post consider Indiana Jones (Harrison as in Ford and now possible Schmitt)? It is all about pattern and purpose. It is intentionally kept below common sense as common sense is what keeps us from solving the clues. If common sense was the key ingredient, surely there is enough contained within those 350,000 searchers out there with enough to figure it out. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Nov 13, 2018 11:12:22 GMT -5
Hi Wolf: regarding that 350,000 searcher estimate of Fenn's, I wonder if it's a wee bit inflated? While I disagree with Toby's "order of magnitude" over-estimate, it seems high in light of book sales. I think the last figure I read on TTOTC sales was a bit over 40,000. That's a lot of searchers without a book, even if each book serves a family of 5 on average. For me, it's the book sales figure that matters, because I don't think a searcher without the book has any chance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 12:12:14 GMT -5
Hi Wolf: regarding that 350,000 searcher estimate of Fenn's, I wonder if it's a wee bit inflated? While I disagree with Toby's "order of magnitude" over-estimate, it seems high in light of book sales. I think the last figure I read on TTOTC sales was a bit over 40,000. That's a lot of searchers without a book, even if each book serves a family of 5 on average. For me, it's the book sales figure that matters, because I don't think a searcher without the book has any chance. I don't work from the book. I think you do have a chase😁. Forrest would never have said all you need is the poem and a good map or Google earth. All the noise coming from the book is noise There are Way to many RABBIT holes in the book. Keep it simple work with one hint and 9 clues. Coming up with 9 meaning and one meaning for the hint. Is much more easier to come up with then coming up with all the meanings from all the words in the books. Imo. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Nov 13, 2018 12:35:38 GMT -5
I agree that all poem clue solution ideas should come from the poem first and foremost, plus whatever map source(s) the solver prefers. But in my opinion, without TTOTC you will not have any *confidence* in your solution. The book provides many hints that will serve to validate correct solutions to some of the clues ... but the book can ALSO be a source of confirmation bias for incorrect solutions. This is why hint redundancy is critical.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 12:56:03 GMT -5
I agree that all poem clue solution ideas should come from the poem first and foremost, plus whatever map source(s) the solver prefers. But in my opinion, without TTOTC you will not have any *confidence* in your solution. The book provides many hints that will serve to validate correct solutions to some of the clues ... but the book can ALSO be a source of confirmation bias for incorrect solutions. This is why hint redundancy is critical. I see. |
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