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Post by npsbuilder on Jan 1, 2019 15:06:15 GMT -5
Forrest Fenn repeats often we need to follow the nine clues. Yet he has only confirmed clue one is Begin it where warm waters halt. It is really next to impossible without solving the poem to know what are the 9 clues and even if you are able to do it, why is it important to know there are 9 clues? He could have easily said follow the clues since most of the words in the poem are useful. I believe there is an outstanding reason for saying there are 9 clues. It defines the location of the chest and confirms one clue for sure. When the poem is solved, it will become obvious why he repeats there are 9 clues. What are your thoughts as to why he included 9 clues? Wolf, It seems you are finally coming to understand my way of thinking, as this is exactly what I have been saying for some time now. Here is a link to my video saying just this: "why does he then tell us nine clues, why not just say I wrote a poem that leads to my treasure" So yes the question then becomes why even say nine clues if it isn't important in some way. Now I only came to the conclusion that that line was important after I theorized that grammar, word meanings and yes punctuation may be important in solving this, not before. So that line just prior to the poem is not crucial in my solve, it only supports my thoughts, thus helpful. youtu.be/jxGXR3aOtmESeannm Seannm...from what I can figure and IMO the 9 clues are not necessarily the lines in the poem. There are 9 different solves you must make that build on each other to get to the tc. I currently think that I have figured out 5 of the clues to use to get the solve. I will say, I have never had a copy of the book and don't plan on using to, with the exception of the Preface in it and the 2 omega symbols on last page. I have found that 1 clue can also be used as another. For example, I have used the omegas having 2 totally different meanings and used each meaning to build on the others. There are 2 clues in the Preface I am using and so far 1 in ff's Blog. Sorry, I have 6 of the 9 (if my thinking is correct) clues. I have found 1 on the Resource Page at the Old Santa Fe's website. Again, for me, each clue has it's own solve to the poem and they each helps to get you to the tc. I hope this doesn't help too much...:-) |
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Post by heidini on Jan 1, 2019 15:11:09 GMT -5
Sean, lol As a point of order, you are the one that is coming around to my way of thinking. I have been thinking this stuff long before you entered the chase. There is much I have written that you have not read, safely tucked away from presumptuous eyes. ;-) Sorry, I don't have 10 minutes to watch a video. If you can summarize the info it in concrete point form, I may be able to discuss it. Also, Mr. Fenn has already ruled out punctuation as being important. I refuse to go down that confirmation bias fills rabbit hole, so I won't comment on that further as it is a waste of time. Wolf, Haha now you want to claim them as your own, that is laughable because it wasn't so long ago that you were claiming my theories as dead, and now they have become yours, Bwahahaha. What a EDIT XXXXXXXXXXXXX with WARNING to SEANNM! , PHD's better get their crutches out, LOL. Seannm I suggest a non-name calling route of disagreement. |
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Post by Jenny on Jan 1, 2019 15:20:06 GMT -5
I agree... Seannm, please no name calling or swearing....
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Post by npsbuilder on Jan 1, 2019 15:20:42 GMT -5
Sure can you share? if not do you know who Buddy the Helicopter is? Treasure hunts have hidden gems, if you know how to look for them. I have often suggested Mr. Fenn uses the magician's slight-of-hand to deliver his hints. Well it's just a idea about the kids. Forrest tells a redneck with 12,kids and lost his job. So this redneck ant going to have much money so he has to find a free camping sit. For them to stay. If this TC is around a camp ground the kids advantage is there looking around the camping area with the poem and the adults are sitting at camp.. Forrest can hide something in front of you and you won't even know it. What ff said about the family from Texas is 1 hint that needs another hint to understand what it means. The other hint was him saying we need to use a tighter/narrower focus. Focus on the numbers for the family and make an equation to help understand how to use 1 of the clues correctly. The hints/sprinkles builds on each other to understand what the 9 clues are and how to use them. THIS IS IMO... |
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Post by The Wolf on Jan 1, 2019 15:24:48 GMT -5
Wolf, Haha now you want to claim them as your own, that is laughable because it wasn't so long ago that you were claiming my theories as dead, and now they have become yours, Bwahahaha. WhatXXXXXXXEDIT with Warning to Seannm, PHD's better get their crutches out, LOL. Seannm I suggest a non-name calling route of disagreement. Yes Heidini, that is the Seannm I know and am used to. He has been following me around, taking pot shots at me and my book over the pst three years. He even went after my cancer awareness efforts, which eventually caused me to take my research private. I have tried to ignore him since, but I guess that was just some bait trick. Not going to fall for it. I am done responding to him. |
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Post by heidini on Jan 1, 2019 15:54:27 GMT -5
Everyone should remember that the forum is to be treated as if we are in Jenny’s living room. Respect her home. It’s ok to have a difference of opinion- just be mindful of how you express that opinion.
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Post by seannm on Jan 1, 2019 17:11:07 GMT -5
I suggest a non-name calling route of disagreement. Yes Heidini, that is the Seannm I know and am used to. He has been following me around, taking pot shots at me and my book over the pst three years. He even went after my cancer awareness efforts, which eventually caused me to take my research private. I have tried to ignore him since, but I guess that was just some bait trick. Not going to fall for it. I am done responding to him. And you claim no responsibility for all the "pot shots" you have taken towards me? Have you forgotten the thread titled "why Poem purists got it wrong" and the insinuations in that thread? Have you forgotten stating that anyone who believes in the nine clues equaling the nine sentences is delusional? Have you forgotten all the times you have marginalized other theories and ideas I have discussed elsewhere? So when I come here and try and have a discussion with you, you immediately jump to marginalizing me by stating that it is I who am coming around to your way of thinking, and that discussing my ideas on the topic at hand is a waste of time. Why could you not have just preceded with a normal discussion? So yea you deserved the holier-than-thou donkey's butt comment. Seannm |
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Post by Jenny on Jan 1, 2019 17:18:03 GMT -5
This is NEW YEAR...leave the past in the past please...
everyone can have their own opinions, and if you disagree... move along... no need to try and force thoughts on others or get defensive or angry.... it never works and only causes tension...
There is also no need to have 'the last word'...
Please try a bit more to get along...
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Post by Jenny on Jan 1, 2019 17:39:57 GMT -5
WARNING:
Any more posts made just to point fingers at each other will be deleted and posters banned. There is no need and this is not the place for it. It's old and unnecessary......and disrespectful to MW.
Thanks for understanding...
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Post by The Wolf on Jan 2, 2019 9:59:18 GMT -5
On the previous page, seannm wrote: Thank you for at least getting this thread >>> back on topic. I had given up on it. I have gone into much more detail on my blog and in my Finding Forrest Fenn thread about why I believe there are 9 clues, where it is easier to stay on topic. Also in my book ( Finding Forrest Fenn), I suggested the introduction to the poem as being part of the poem because it ends with a ":" Thus technically the list starts, which is why I speculated initially the 9 clues are the 9 sentences. "So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure:" Many commented and considered this a break through four years ago when I first published this as no one had ever previously suggested that as possibility. I believe the rainbow connection is very important and is the centre of my theories on many of my solutions in my book. On my blog/private thread (of which all owners of my book can have access to), I provide an example of the rainbow and how imagination is important and more importantly why Mr. Fenn says "comprehensive" knowledge of geography is required. It is up to the reader to decide but it is a different way of looking at it. Many think comprehensive means just maps, but geography is also the study of weather. A special weather phenomenon produces rainbows, if you are within striking distance that is (wink). I think it is an interesting connection and I finally got around to publishing all my work over the last 3 years on my searchers blog for those to decide for themselves. |
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Post by Jenny on Jan 2, 2019 10:16:58 GMT -5
I think everyone needs to remember, until the chest is found AND in hand, much is a theory, and should be stated as such.
So many people feel they 'know' this or that, and yet, without the chest in their hands, which is the ONLY thing that can confirm anyone's final 'solution' (and many thoughts towards it), ideas remain speculative-- no matter how much you yourself may believe in the ideas/thoughts.
Only the FACTS Forrest has stated are KNOWN..... Interpretations made based off of what he says are NOT FACTS--- only beliefs.
Please keep the differences in mind when posting.
thank you...
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Post by lookinup on Jan 2, 2019 11:31:10 GMT -5
My offerings are "speculative" for the most part; kind of like life at times.
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Post by goldwatch on Jan 2, 2019 13:17:54 GMT -5
On the previous page, seannm wrote: Thank you for at least getting this thread >>> back on topic. I had given up on it. I have gone into much more detail on my blog and in my Finding Forrest Fenn thread about why I believe there are 9 clues, where it is easier to stay on topic. Also in my book ( Finding Forrest Fenn), I suggested the introduction to the poem as being part of the poem because it ends with a ":" Thus technically the list starts, which is why I speculated initially the 9 clues are the 9 sentences. "So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure:" Many commented and considered this a break through four years ago when I first published this as no one had ever previously suggested that as possibility. I believe the rainbow connection is very important and is the centre of my theories on many of my solutions in my book. On my blog/private thread (of which all owners of my book can have access to), I provide an example of the rainbow and how imagination is important and more importantly why Mr. Fenn says "comprehensive" knowledge of geography is required. It is up to the reader to decide but it is a different way of looking at it. Many think comprehensive means just maps, but geography is also the study of weather. A special weather phenomenon produces rainbows, if you are within striking distance that is (wink). I think it is an interesting connection and I finally got around to publishing all my work over the last 3 years on my searchers blog for those to decide for themselves. I don't know, wolfie. That sentence before the poem isn't included in any other published poem. Particularly the poem that's on the map in TFTW. But I do think it's a hint. With at least two meanings, off the top of my head. A question. You said that Forrest said that ""comprehensive" knowledge of geography is required." He said it could help, not that it was required, if memory serves me correctly. Are you interpreting something to get to that "required?" |
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Post by The Wolf on Jan 2, 2019 13:32:14 GMT -5
I have gone into much more detail on my blog and in my Finding Forrest Fenn thread about why I believe there are 9 clues, where it is easier to stay on topic. Also in my book ( Finding Forrest Fenn), I suggested the introduction to the poem as being part of the poem because it ends with a ":" Thus technically the list starts, which is why I speculated initially the 9 clues are the 9 sentences. "So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure:" Many commented and considered this a break through four years ago when I first published this as no one had ever previously suggested that as possibility. I believe the rainbow connection is very important and is the centre of my theories on many of my solutions in my book. On my blog/private thread (of which all owners of my book can have access to), I provide an example of the rainbow and how imagination is important and more importantly why Mr. Fenn says "comprehensive" knowledge of geography is required. It is up to the reader to decide but it is a different way of looking at it. Many think comprehensive means just maps, but geography is also the study of weather. A special weather phenomenon produces rainbows, if you are within striking distance that is (wink). I think it is an interesting connection and I finally got around to publishing all my work over the last 3 years on my searchers blog for those to decide for themselves. I don't know, wolfie. That sentence before the poem isn't included in any other published poem. Particularly the poem that's on the map in TFTW. But I do think it's a hint. With at least two meanings, off the top of my head. A question. You said that Forrest said that ""comprehensive" knowledge of geography is required." He said it could help, not that it was required, if memory serves me correctly. Are you interpreting something to get to that "required?" Goldwatch, very good questions. 1) What other published poem are you referring? The original is in TTOTC. I prefer to go with the original. 2) Geography, here is a quote: "Can hunters really get to the treasure location with just a good map, the poem, and a decent knowledge of words?FF: I wrote the book for everyone who feels a sense of wanderlust. In your last question if you change the last word to geography, my answer would be yes.""The only requirement is that you figure out what the clues mean. But a comprehensive knowledge of geography might help."We can decide for ourselves whether that is a requirement or not. His insistence on changing a word to geography is with purpose, so in my opinion it cannot be ignored and the example I have provide certainly makes sense of that statement. |
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Post by heidini on Jan 2, 2019 17:13:10 GMT -5
Why are people focused on the word geography and not “comprehensive?”
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