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Post by The Wolf on Dec 30, 2018 14:16:17 GMT -5
Forrest Fenn repeats often we need to follow the nine clues. Yet he has only confirmed clue one is Begin it where warm waters halt. It is really next to impossible without solving the poem to know what are the 9 clues and even if you are able to do it, why is it important to know there are 9 clues?
He could have easily said follow the clues since most of the words in the poem are useful. I believe there is an outstanding reason for saying there are 9 clues. It defines the location of the chest and confirms one clue for sure. When the poem is solved, it will become obvious why he repeats there are 9 clues.
What are your thoughts as to why he included 9 clues?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 14:29:58 GMT -5
Forrest Fenn repeats often we need to follow the nine clues. Yet he has only confirmed clue one is Begin it where warm waters halt. It is really next to impossible without solving the poem to know what are the 9 clues and even if you are able to do it, why is it important to know there are 9 clues? He could have easily said follow the clues since most of the words in the poem are useful. I believe there is an outstanding reason for saying there are 9 clues. It defines the location of the chest and confirms one clue for sure. When the poem is solved, it will become obvious why he repeats there are 9 clues. What are your thoughts as to why he included 9 clues? Forrest said at the end of writing the poem he came,up with 9 clues. Does this mean it should only take the 9 clues that Forrest came up with to lead you to the TC. Maybe this is where the imagination Comes in how many more clues or hints in the poem can you come up with. |
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 30, 2018 14:54:20 GMT -5
Forrest Fenn repeats often we need to follow the nine clues. Yet he has only confirmed clue one is Begin it where warm waters halt. It is really next to impossible without solving the poem to know what are the 9 clues and even if you are able to do it, why is it important to know there are 9 clues? He could have easily said follow the clues since most of the words in the poem are useful. I believe there is an outstanding reason for saying there are 9 clues. It defines the location of the chest and confirms one clue for sure. When the poem is solved, it will become obvious why he repeats there are 9 clues. What are your thoughts as to why he included 9 clues? Forrest said at the end of writing the poem he came,up with 9 clues. Does this mean it should only take the 9 clues that Forrest came up with to lead you to the TC. Maybe this is where the imagination Comes in how many more clues or hints in the poem can you come up with. Yes it is an after thought, something that doesn't seem important, yet when asked: Forrest, Did you intend for there to be 9 clues, or did it work out to be just right with 9? ~ halo
Nice thinking halo, I didn’t count the clues until the poem had been finalized. Although I changed it a few times over the months I think the number stayed about the same.f
So why is this nice thinking? It confirms my suspicion, there are 9 clues for a reason. A very good reason. Too good of a reason to acknowledge other that to compliment the nice thinking. |
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Post by npsbuilder on Dec 30, 2018 15:07:11 GMT -5
Forrest said at the end of writing the poem he came,up with 9 clues. Does this mean it should only take the 9 clues that Forrest came up with to lead you to the TC. Maybe this is where the imagination Comes in how many more clues or hints in the poem can you come up with. Yes it is an after thought, something that doesn't seem important, yet when asked: Forrest, Did you intend for there to be 9 clues, or did it work out to be just right with 9? ~ halo
Nice thinking halo, I didn’t count the clues until the poem had been finalized. Although I changed it a few times over the months I think the number stayed about the same.f
So why is this nice thinking? It confirms my suspicion, there are 9 clues for a reason. A very good reason. Too good of a reason to acknowledge other that to compliment the nice thinking. My current thinking has 8 to 12 clues depending on how you want to count them and how you set up the game for play. Getting ready for play are most of the clues and ff is correct that there is no short-cut to the tc. The beginning and the end are basically the same distance apart. |
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Post by heidini on Dec 30, 2018 16:08:03 GMT -5
Yes it is an after thought, something that doesn't seem important, yet when asked: Forrest, Did you intend for there to be 9 clues, or did it work out to be just right with 9? ~ halo
Nice thinking halo, I didn’t count the clues until the poem had been finalized. Although I changed it a few times over the months I think the number stayed about the same.f
So why is this nice thinking? It confirms my suspicion, there are 9 clues for a reason. A very good reason. Too good of a reason to acknowledge other that to compliment the nice thinking. My current thinking has 8 to 12 clues depending on how you want to count them and how you set up the game for play. Getting ready for play are most of the clues and ff is correct that there is no short-cut to the tc. The beginning and the end are basically the same distance apart. Distance. That is a big word. Distance of time? Space? Emotion? Memory? Yes. I think. Almost as big as the word “if.” 😊 |
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Post by heidini on Dec 30, 2018 16:11:01 GMT -5
Forrest said at the end of writing the poem he came,up with 9 clues. Does this mean it should only take the 9 clues that Forrest came up with to lead you to the TC. Maybe this is where the imagination Comes in how many more clues or hints in the poem can you come up with. Yes it is an after thought, something that doesn't seem important, yet when asked: Forrest, Did you intend for there to be 9 clues, or did it work out to be just right with 9? ~ halo
Nice thinking halo, I didn’t count the clues until the poem had been finalized. Although I changed it a few times over the months I think the number stayed about the same.f
So why is this nice thinking? It confirms my suspicion, there are 9 clues for a reason. A very good reason. Too good of a reason to acknowledge other that to compliment the nice thinking. we keep falling onto the same wavelength. Although you just typed this out, yesterday I was reading it again. Rays of light are wavelengths, I believe. |
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 30, 2018 16:17:12 GMT -5
Yes it is an after thought, something that doesn't seem important, yet when asked: Forrest, Did you intend for there to be 9 clues, or did it work out to be just right with 9? ~ halo
Nice thinking halo, I didn’t count the clues until the poem had been finalized. Although I changed it a few times over the months I think the number stayed about the same.f
So why is this nice thinking? It confirms my suspicion, there are 9 clues for a reason. A very good reason. Too good of a reason to acknowledge other that to compliment the nice thinking. we keep falling onto the same wavelength. Although you just typed this out, yesterday I was reading it again. Rays of light are wavelengths, I believe. funny you should mention wavelength. The sin wave theory always have been on my mind www.findingfenn.com/single-post/2015/11/19/The-Sine-Wave-and-Ωtf2π |
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Post by npsbuilder on Dec 30, 2018 16:19:19 GMT -5
My last reply on the other thread to you, for some reason, didn't post. Go about 8.5 miles North of Santa Fe and go due East from there and zoom in on the lake (here in NC we call it a pond) and the gates (aerial and ground view) at both ends of the road to the lake and tell me what you think. Who knows, it may be across the highway in the public park near the historical marker or the right-of way for the road or train.
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Post by heidini on Dec 30, 2018 16:35:05 GMT -5
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Post by The Wolf on Dec 30, 2018 18:00:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 19:05:14 GMT -5
My last reply on the other thread to you, for some reason, didn't post. Go about 8.5 miles North of Santa Fe and go due East from there and zoom in on the lake (here in NC we call it a pond) and the gates (aerial and ground view) at both ends of the road to the lake and tell me what you think. Who knows, it may be across the highway in the public park near the historical marker or the right-of way for the road or train. Go south from the lake and you will find the big Brown rock. Ski Santa fe area Aspen peak holds every clue around it. |
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Post by van on Dec 31, 2018 1:40:29 GMT -5
In my current solve, I found 9 physical locations: wwwh, take it in, canyon, hob, creek, npfm, 2 associated with the blaze, chest.
Hint: After solving the poem, I was able to use anagrams to find the names of my mapped locations using six specific lines of the poem. Other anagrammed words in those lines also seem to confirm that I am at the correct location. I know I am not supposed to use anagrams, but if they work...
Trying to convivence the wife to take a "search for the treasure" vacation this summer, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 5:34:53 GMT -5
The Wolf wrote: Reading through the various message boards these past several years I have run across many, many searchers who conclude that the 9 clues apply to a small geographic area, one that can be hiked; further, that the chest is within walking distance from WWH. It's difficult to persuade these people otherwise. There are more than a couple of clues because, in my opinion, FF wants to make the search difficult ... to last maybe a thousand years. The idea of having only one or two clues for such an expansive area from Santa Fe to the Canadian border, to lead you to a very small area associated with WWH, after which there are 7 additional clues for this small (hiking) area is illogical. I would have a low regard for FF if that absence of logic actually applied to this hunt. Why have only a couple of clues to go on, to find WWH in either NM, Colorado, Wyoming, or Montana, but then be given 7 additional clues (or even 5 or 6) for the WWH area? The entire puzzle would be dependent basically on solving WWH. Searcher doesn't need 7 clues for the hiking area; he or she could simply walk back and forth in a systematic way to cover the entire small area. After having found the correct WWH, no additional clues would be needed. The reason for more than a couple of clues is that some of those 9 clues are driving clues. The poem is applicable to a much larger geographic area. Searcher must have to first find WWH, on a map; they can do that at home. Then they find locations that match clues 2, 3, etc., also on a map at home. Searcher is subject to making a mistake on any of these driving clues and thus never correctly identifies the small (hiking) search area. Further, why would a searcher travel from Florida (or other distant location) to the Rockies if searcher can only find one or two clues on a map? Where is searcher "confidence" in that? No, the reason for having driving clues is that searcher can have more "confidence" in having solved 4 or 5 or 6 driving clues, using a map at home, thus justifying a lengthy, expensive trip, thereby reserving a handful of later clues for the small area reserved for hiking. I question just how much thought searchers give to this treasure hunt. As a recent poem solution posted elsewhere suggests, searchers assume incorrectly that this hunt is easy, and doesn't require much thought. Following the hunt crowd to Yellowstone or to the Taos area is really common, but requires no imagination, no analysis, and no critical thinking. Wolf, to answer your excellent question, FF specified a number, and that number was more than 2 or 3, specifically to make the hunt difficult but not impossible. Why the number is 9 instead of 8 or 14 probably relates to FF's own subjective preferences. The first clue (WWH) is the start point; if you mis-identify WWH, you don't have anything. If you do correctly identify WWH, then you must still solve all 8 subsequent clues that vector from WWH; some of these 8 are driving clues, some are hiking. Correct identification of WWH and all 8 vectors actually leads to the chest; hints do not. Imo we,drive to one place and that's to wwwh is. The next 8 clues will be done in walking |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 7:22:07 GMT -5
The Wolf wrote: Reading through the various message boards these past several years I have run across many, many searchers who conclude that the 9 clues apply to a small geographic area, one that can be hiked; further, that the chest is within walking distance from WWH. It's difficult to persuade these people otherwise. There are more than a couple of clues because, in my opinion, FF wants to make the search difficult ... to last maybe a thousand years. The idea of having only one or two clues for such an expansive area from Santa Fe to the Canadian border, to lead you to a very small area associated with WWH, after which there are 7 additional clues for this small (hiking) area is illogical. I would have a low regard for FF if that absence of logic actually applied to this hunt. Why have only a couple of clues to go on, to find WWH in either NM, Colorado, Wyoming, or Montana, but then be given 7 additional clues (or even 5 or 6) for the WWH area? The entire puzzle would be dependent basically on solving WWH. Searcher doesn't need 7 clues for the hiking area; he or she could simply walk back and forth in a systematic way to cover the entire small area. After having found the correct WWH, no additional clues would be needed. The reason for more than a couple of clues is that some of those 9 clues are driving clues. The poem is applicable to a much larger geographic area. Searcher must have to first find WWH, on a map; they can do that at home. Then they find locations that match clues 2, 3, etc., also on a map at home. Searcher is subject to making a mistake on any of these driving clues and thus never correctly identifies the small (hiking) search area. Further, why would a searcher travel from Florida (or other distant location) to the Rockies if searcher can only find one or two clues on a map? Where is searcher "confidence" in that? No, the reason for having driving clues is that searcher can have more "confidence" in having solved 4 or 5 or 6 driving clues, using a map at home, thus justifying a lengthy, expensive trip, thereby reserving a handful of later clues for the small area reserved for hiking. I question just how much thought searchers give to this treasure hunt. As a recent poem solution posted elsewhere suggests, searchers assume incorrectly that this hunt is easy, and doesn't require much thought. Following the hunt crowd to Yellowstone or to the Taos area is really common, but requires no imagination, no analysis, and no critical thinking. Wolf, to answer your excellent question, FF specified a number, and that number was more than 2 or 3, specifically to make the hunt difficult but not impossible. Why the number is 9 instead of 8 or 14 probably relates to FF's own subjective preferences. The first clue (WWH) is the start point; if you mis-identify WWH, you don't have anything. If you do correctly identify WWH, then you must still solve all 8 subsequent clues that vector from WWH; some of these 8 are driving clues, some are hiking. Correct identification of WWH and all 8 vectors actually leads to the chest; hints do not. Imo we,drive to one place and that's to wwwh is. The next 8 clues will be done in walking Now Forrest might of have hired a helicopter pilot. To drop him down in a canyon with a cable. To hid the chest. This is breaking news. |
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Post by heidini on Dec 31, 2018 12:06:36 GMT -5
Imo we,drive to one place and that's to wwwh is. The next 8 clues will be done in walking Now Forrest might of have hired a helicopter pilot. To drop him down in a canyon with a cable. To hid the chest. This is breaking news. No breaking news. Your fantastical claim should not be stated as fact. |
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