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Post by goldilocks on Mar 4, 2019 13:19:15 GMT -5
...The Great Recession of 2007-2009? There's a thread under the Poem heading here at MW questioning if there might be any parallels with this Chase and The Wizard of Oz. While I personally don't think this hunt relates to The Wizard of Oz in particular, the premise behind possible symbolic themes might. We know that Forrest said one of his intentions with this treasure hunt was to get kids and their families outdoors. He also said he wanted to offer people hope at a time when the economy was suffering. What parallels can we draw from the economy during this time with the book/poem? The collapse of the real estate market, 2 or more consecutive quarters of negative growth (the mention of Quarters in TTOTC), subprime mortgage crisis (heavy loads) rising unemployment and people were broke…(waters high) etc. I'm sure this has been talked about before but perhaps this potential hidden double meaning is worth further exploration.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 13:45:25 GMT -5
...The Great Recession of 2007-2009? There's a thread under the Poem heading here at MW questioning if there might be any parallels with this Chase and The Wizard of Oz. While I personally don't think this hunt relates to The Wizard of Oz in particular, the premise behind possible symbolic themes might. We know that Forrest said one of his intentions with this treasure hunt was to get kids and their families outdoors. He also said he wanted to offer people hope at a time when the economy was suffering. What parallels can we draw from the economy during this time with the book/poem? The collapse of the real estate market, 2 or more consecutive quarters of negative growth (the mention of Quarters in TTOTC), subprime mortgage crisis (heavy loads) rising unemployment and people were broke…(waters high) etc. I'm sure this has been talked about before but perhaps this potential hidden double meaning is worth further exploration. That was some very big words to use. I'm going to take a back set to this one.
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 4, 2019 14:03:51 GMT -5
...The Great Recession of 2007-2009? There's a thread under the Poem heading here at MW questioning if there might be any parallels with this Chase and The Wizard of Oz. While I personally don't think this hunt relates to The Wizard of Oz in particular, the premise behind possible symbolic themes might. We know that Forrest said one of his intentions with this treasure hunt was to get kids and their families outdoors. He also said he wanted to offer people hope at a time when the economy was suffering. What parallels can we draw from the economy during this time with the book/poem? The collapse of the real estate market, 2 or more consecutive quarters of negative growth (the mention of Quarters in TTOTC), subprime mortgage crisis (heavy loads) rising unemployment and people were broke…(waters high) etc. I'm sure this has been talked about before but perhaps this potential hidden double meaning is worth further exploration. That was some very big words to use. I'm going to take a back set to this one. You're funny Mike! Those were big words for me too! My husband asked me the other day if I figured out wwwh yet. When I said no he laughed hysterically and said if I can't even figure out the State, then how am I going to find the treasure. It's true, to an outsider what little progress we've made thus far is pretty comical. I say 'we' loosely because I know many think they've got it. If I don't figure something out soon my head will explode with all of this knowledge I have acquired! Someone, anyone please find this chest and when you do be sure to tell us how you found it.
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Post by goldwatch on Mar 7, 2019 15:32:14 GMT -5
Hi Goldilocks. I thought that was an interesting question. So I did a very brief search on the Wizard of Oz. It seems that there may be something here. From my quick search, it seems that no one knows for sure what Baum had in mind, allegorically speaking. But many think that the Yellow Brick Road was symbolic to the "gold standard," a term that also relates to a silver standard for currency. That topic was in the forefront at that time. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article about this subject. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_OzThis is very interesting stuff.
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 7, 2019 15:37:49 GMT -5
Hi Goldilocks. I thought that was an interesting question. So I did a very brief search on the Wizard of Oz. It seems that there may be something here. From my quick search, it seems that no one knows for sure what Baum had in mind, allegorically speaking. But many think that the Yellow Brick Road was symbolic to the "gold standard," a term that also relates to a silver standard for currency. That topic was in the forefront at that time. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article about this subject. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_OzThis is very interesting stuff. Thanks. Did you see my post under the poem heading? A few more details over there...
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Post by goldwatch on Mar 7, 2019 15:52:03 GMT -5
Hi Goldilocks. I thought that was an interesting question. So I did a very brief search on the Wizard of Oz. It seems that there may be something here. From my quick search, it seems that no one knows for sure what Baum had in mind, allegorically speaking. But many think that the Yellow Brick Road was symbolic to the "gold standard," a term that also relates to a silver standard for currency. That topic was in the forefront at that time. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article about this subject. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_OzThis is very interesting stuff. Thanks. Did you see my post under the poem heading? A few more details over there... I saw it, but at the time I hadn't done a search so I didn't know quite what to say about it. I suppose I still don't. lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 15:28:02 GMT -5
Hi Goldilocks. I thought that was an interesting question. So I did a very brief search on the Wizard of Oz. It seems that there may be something here. From my quick search, it seems that no one knows for sure what Baum had in mind, allegorically speaking. But many think that the Yellow Brick Road was symbolic to the "gold standard," a term that also relates to a silver standard for currency. That topic was in the forefront at that time. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article about this subject. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_OzThis is very interesting stuff. In my honest opinion (well 95% certain) that FF is leading us on quite an Adventure. I know the TC contains alot of gold but I, myself, prefer silver. Wonder how I gotin such a mess???
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Post by goldwatch on Mar 8, 2019 16:32:36 GMT -5
Hi Goldilocks. I thought that was an interesting question. So I did a very brief search on the Wizard of Oz. It seems that there may be something here. From my quick search, it seems that no one knows for sure what Baum had in mind, allegorically speaking. But many think that the Yellow Brick Road was symbolic to the "gold standard," a term that also relates to a silver standard for currency. That topic was in the forefront at that time. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article about this subject. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_interpretations_of_The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_OzThis is very interesting stuff. In my honest opinion (well 95% certain) that FF is leading us on quite an Adventure. I know the TC contains alot of gold but I, myself, prefer silver. Wonder how I gotin such a mess??? Silver's a little more affordable. And that's an important part of that whole U.S. debate of the gold standard. Yes, I agree that FF is leading us on quite a journey. Through history, sciences, humanology, literature, etc. And the strange thing is that every once in a while, it seems like there are answers to the hints and clues in all of that. That's why I call his books "works of art." I think it's intended.
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 8, 2019 18:20:44 GMT -5
History is surely at the top of the significance list for me when thinking of TTOTC and the poem. Just not sure which angle of history, so I'm still trying them on for size. Mr. Fenn's feelings towards the American involvement in the war in Vietnam, or any war for that matter, are significant. I believe he has a strong desire to make some kind of impact, so that we don't repeat past mistakes and consider the future of our children and our children's children.
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Post by dejoka on Mar 8, 2019 19:28:56 GMT -5
The poem an allegory? Only by, on the way to the TC, the realization that you are no longer in Kansas should become glaringly obvious, so to speak.
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Post by goldwatch on Mar 8, 2019 21:55:28 GMT -5
The poem an allegory? Only by, on the way to the TC, the realization that you are no longer in Kansas should become glaringly obvious, so to speak. I like that. This quest winds through so much, it's like a whirlwind twister.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 12:27:14 GMT -5
Silver threads among the gold? Silver coins among the gold ones? Hi-Yo, Silver - Away!
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Post by npsbuilder on Mar 22, 2019 2:00:11 GMT -5
In my honest opinion (well 95% certain) that FF is leading us on quite an Adventure. I know the TC contains alot of gold but I, myself, prefer silver. Wonder how I gotin such a mess??? Silver's a little more affordable. And that's an important part of that whole U.S. debate of the gold standard. Yes, I agree that FF is leading us on quite a journey. Through history, sciences, humanology, literature, etc. And the strange thing is that every once in a while, it seems like there are answers to the hints and clues in all of that. That's why I call his books "works of art." I think it's intended. Just my thinking here goldilocks - Wizard of Oz has so many connections and haven't given it any thought till now. This was one of the first full length that was in Technicolor - ff has attributed full color adds making his gallery a success. Story line is there is so much out there the world has to offer and the friends that are to be made that are ff's treasures. His treasures are his memories. Land of Oz was filled with wonders Dorothy had only dreamed about. Yellow Brick Road was not only the best double album ever released, Elton John was just like ff in the way of being that person that everyone talked about being so colorful and breaking all the rules. Judy Garland's biggest connection possibly from dying from an overdose and her ruby slippers. I could mention easily a dozen more connections. Aunt M's pies When everything is at its best and all is good suddenly everyone's world is turned upside down through no fault of their own. What you see isn't what you are really seeing. Check out link below. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Again just my thoughts after thinking about it for a few minutes. BTW...next time remind the husband that the "Honey do List" only gets longer and longer
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Post by goldwatch on Mar 22, 2019 12:47:51 GMT -5
Silver's a little more affordable. And that's an important part of that whole U.S. debate of the gold standard. Yes, I agree that FF is leading us on quite a journey. Through history, sciences, humanology, literature, etc. And the strange thing is that every once in a while, it seems like there are answers to the hints and clues in all of that. That's why I call his books "works of art." I think it's intended. Just my thinking here goldilocks - Wizard of Oz has so many connections and haven't given it any thought till now. This was one of the first full length that was in Technicolor - ff has attributed full color adds making his gallery a success. Story line is there is so much out there the world has to offer and the friends that are to be made that are ff's treasures. His treasures are his memories. Land of Oz was filled with wonders Dorothy had only dreamed about. Yellow Brick Road was not only the best double album ever released, Elton John was just like ff in the way of being that person that everyone talked about being so colorful and breaking all the rules. Judy Garland's biggest connection possibly from dying from an overdose and her ruby slippers. I could mention easily a dozen more connections. Aunt M's pies When everything is at its best and all is good suddenly everyone's world is turned upside down through no fault of their own. What you see isn't what you are really seeing. Check out link below. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Again just my thoughts after thinking about it for a few minutes. BTW...next time remind the husband that the "Honey do List" only gets longer and longer Which came first, the peak or the valley? I think if I can answer that, I may find a chicken coop.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 13:09:14 GMT -5
What if they happened at the same time? Can't have one without the other can you?
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