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Post by choice on Jun 6, 2021 21:17:52 GMT -5
If that tree is a birch then Google says they live average of 140 yrs, even over 300 yrs in ideal environment. So hopefully not much digging and maintaining was done there except occasional compost feeding. Here's another interesting feature in the image. I've been using the shadow of her nose as the destination marker. If you notice the shadow of her nose goes to her lip and then refracts to a different direction. If we follow the original direction it hits the dragon's head that is draped like a flag over her. The refracted direction hits the v planter right in the middle.  |
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Post by goldhunter on Jun 7, 2021 7:02:02 GMT -5
The shadow pointing at a "V" is pretty cool.
I was wondering about gardeners because they could prod and poke AND DIG with reckless abandon.
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Post by choice on Jun 7, 2021 12:32:01 GMT -5
The shadow dragon itself looks like a 5 surrounding the v planter. 5=V
I think the best way of involving the groundskeeper is for a local New Yorker get the hold of him and pass him a hundo to dig the spot or at least probe and get his input on the history of that spot i.e. tree movement/replacement or any major topsoil replacement.
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Post by goldhunter on Jun 7, 2021 14:51:12 GMT -5
I think the best way of involving the groundskeeper is for a local New Yorker get the hold of him and pass him a hundo to dig the spot or at least probe and get his input on the history of that spot i.e. tree movement/replacement or any major topsoil replacement. Exactly. |
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Post by SluggoZim on Aug 10, 2021 14:25:46 GMT -5
I started over again applying filters in a new way. Better results. working on the blur. Keep it small The most fascinating artifact is down in the bottom right corner. See the straight lines and hard corners in a sea of curves?  |
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Post by livrhp3 on Sept 2, 2021 17:40:59 GMT -5
hi guys, hopping on the thread, like you all i have been non stop consumed by this puzzle for a while now. i live here in the city and am anxious to get some feedback on my searching. i’ve had a couple different intense solves, One solve led me to george washington bridge / little red lighthouse area and the hamilton stuff holds up pretty well. alternately there’s a lot of info a lot of random pieces of history that have come up BK for me: brooklyn eagle the old newspaper of BK. i even thought herald square because it’s right under empire and then james gordon bennett statue (founded NY herald, print word/hard word). i am doing my BEST not to grasp at straws. but i have to say, my money is it being in brooklyn. specifically BAY RIDGE his daughters said you should be able to see all three things — i think that’s unintentionally misleading bc they don’t actually know where the thing is. if you think about it realistically, ft hamilton, anywhere near where his kids went to school/he himself went to school- then not only that but you have the russian connection, rushing water, gershwin, geography, narrows bridge, hundreds of churches, what else? Humming sound i suppose and… well … if you want my ridiculous theory that i have disproven a million times u can email me but it is totally wrong (as much as I wish it were right). humming is probably just cars or AC or something man made (helicopter?). Okay i’m done for now this is my big break into this community so please be kind very excited to talk to others about this! definitely a lot i forgot to include and i’m all over the place but i am here and willing to photograph locations etc
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Post by broncomemo on Oct 17, 2021 13:46:13 GMT -5
Battery Park next to the 1905 train depot is the dig spot!
The grey giant is the Alexander Hamilton US custom house.
The whirring sound is from the ventilation building for the underground tunnel and is on the north side of battery park.
The key to this solve is the “v” and what is “1 branch of the v”. The “v” refers to the v train and 1 depot of the v train!!! That is the 1905 train depot located west of the Alexander Hamilton US custom house. The clock in the painting is on one end of the depot.
From the dig spot looking north is the isle of B aka Britain. The building to the north and next to the ventilation building has plaques mounted on the side. 2 of these plaques refer to Britain ( Liverpool and North Hampton). From the dig spot you can see many other features from the painting. There is also a plaque with a burgandy and tan square also found in the painting.
East steps are different than steps east!!! An east wind blows west so from the center of the train depot you go 22 steps west which puts you in a planting area with Sycamore trees. Simple roots and rhapsodic soil refers to these tress and their soil. Sycamore trees are used in making musical instruments.
The lion in the waves is to the north on the Netherland Monument.
Happy Hunting!!!
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Post by choice on Oct 17, 2021 14:08:38 GMT -5
Looking forward to read your complete step by step solution and not the usual snipe and run stuff.
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Post by kwendall on Sept 6, 2023 17:20:27 GMT -5
Hey folks, sorry if these ideas have already been hashed over, but I noticed your mention of the Buffalo on the Manhattan bridge arch, then I noticed the archer in the same arch. I have a strong feeling that a "hidden" animal + astrological symbol (eg. November is Sagittarius - the archer) are major clues to these riddles. (could this be the key to unlock all 12?!) I did a super quick survey and noticed a number of matches in the vicinity of the bridge. What do you think? also of note: 1. St Ann's wherehouse archways are a good match for the painting boarder 2. walk 2x East from the bridge looks feasible to land you at John Street park, (why is John so Rhapsodic??) a likely dig site. That park and path were likely not around there in 1981  3. As a side note, ive been working on the SF solution, and I like the cross references here, eg. "Giant" and "Pearl" street. food for thought. 4. could the archers be the natives in the verse? are there any good theories about who the natives are? 5. Charles Cary Rumsey sculpted the "Buffalo hunt" and.. While still a student at Harvard, he exhibited a sculpture of an Indian at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo in 1901. 6. The woman in the bridge arch has a likeness to the painting's woman, especially her robes etc. and 'arm that extends...' (we know the artist/author penchant for 'fairies secrets come in twos') artifactadventures.com/post/68293633990/manhattan-bridge-triumphal-arch7. the arch is in Chinatown.. another SF connection? 8. the Lion/Bear hidden in the left side of the waves has a likeness to the Lion on the Archway 9. The Spirit of Industry sculpture on the right 'sea monsters' have a likeness to the dragon (tail) of SF painting! - could that be a sea monster lurking below the waves in the painting? anamorphing? 10. The jewel shape matches the arch square pattern, eg. under the archway 11. The eagle's tail looks similar to the Port of Brooklyn (near the dig site) 12. Plymouth St is at the base of the bridge. Ties in with the 'natives' theme, who would likely speak 'hard words' of the pilgrims imo (the SF riddle has many potential street references hidden, another pattern here?) 13. John St./John Park - John Audubon is a Indies native! He drew pictures of American birds (eg. eagles!), which happens to be front and center of the painting. that's certainly something to be Rhapsodic about. 14. There are 4 bridges over the East River, the second from the left is Manhattan Br. Similarly with the water drops and jewel (second from left) below the woman's feet. (ok this one may have been a stretch  ) Hmm..this could be something... Update: the carousel wasn't there until 1984, and the waterfront around the bridge looked way different back then.. eg. no John St park... ok, back to the drawing board...  |
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Post by kwendall on Sept 7, 2023 0:16:31 GMT -5
History of Dumbo:
It's known for its history as a working-class area where immigrants from around the world lived in small apartments and worked in offices above them.
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Post by kwendall on Sept 7, 2023 11:00:52 GMT -5
One more quick observation that might be interesting
- That bird is really a seagull, but its wearing an eagle mask. (sign of American freedom, but also Government power)
- The woman's head doesn't seem to match her body somehow, Im inclined to see her as a peasant wearing a Statue of Liberty mask.
could this could tie into the immigrant theme?
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Post by choice on Sept 7, 2023 11:37:49 GMT -5
Im inclined to see her as a peasant wearing a Statue of Liberty mask. Or perhaps she's the "grey giant". Similar to "land near window" which is reference to the image. The arm that extends "over" (north of) the narrows would be her right arm, map of lower Manhattan. Her left arm is the map of Long Island flipped. |
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Post by kwendall on Sept 7, 2023 12:24:07 GMT -5
The statue's left arm is extended, would that mean Long Island is the direction?
What is "land near window"? I don't see that in the verse.
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Post by kwendall on Sept 7, 2023 12:37:39 GMT -5
I put all images from the Manhattan Bridge Arch next to the painting. To me these look like great matches... but honestly, NY has so much architecture and statues and history, is it naive to think these are correct?  |
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Post by choice on Sept 7, 2023 13:51:34 GMT -5
The statue's left arm is extended, would that mean Long Island is the direction? What is "land near window"? I don't see that in the verse. Left arm is not in the shadow of the woman. Do you see the dark shadow by the right arm showing 5?
5 as in V, peace.
Land near window is from Roanoke puzzle referring to the map of Roanoke Island by the window, image 3.. |
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