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Post by canuck on Dec 30, 2019 21:02:52 GMT -5
Likely not what you guys want to hear, but the verse 5 vs verse 6 debate just won't go away! I was reading more about Osceola and a couple more things stuck out to support the "ostrich feather" in Image 2 and Kinderguardians. First, there was a death mask made, which could be the reason for the mask in Image 2. If you look at the feature on the mask that we were curious about it resembles the overhead of Fort Moultrie...there is a large rectangular feature, then a couple semi-circles to the south and finally the couple Battery to the east (those 2 cylinders on the mask could be batteries?). Second, Osceola's head was cut off and placed in the coffin with the scarf he generally wore around his neck. This completely explains why Kinderguardians is wearing a scarf around it's neck! Add in the Dynamite Hole clue and the shape of Kinderguardian's head looking like Fort Moultrie and it gets harder to ignore.
Take a look at the "pear" in Image 2, notice the bottom isn't round and that it has a couple legs and a cylinder in the centre? Now go look at the buoyant mine right across the road from Fort Moultrie...same legs, same cylindrical feature in the centre!
Look at the wings in Image 2, right wing could be "18", left wing could be "38"...1838 was the year Osceola died at Fort Moultrie.
Every line in verse 5 can be explained in support of this and Sullivan's Island strongly supports the African immigration theme of this puzzle. Also doesn't it make sense that you would have to ask permission to retrieve the diamond? It's the most valuable gem, so logic would dictate you need to work a bit harder for it. Honestly the only thing NOT to like about an Image 2/Verse 5 match is that it forces other puzzles to shift pairings. Maybe that is not such a bad thing?
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Post by gabby on Dec 30, 2019 23:40:13 GMT -5
I posted this on FB a couple of months ago. I’m thrilled someone is seeing the merit in 8 S Battery. Even the architectural elements are in the image and I love the “butterfly” gardens there. BTW one very important place that I think wiki got wrong in the reference to the place in or around WPG is the "White House". The WH I believe is the William Washington's house; same last name as the 1st president and is catty corner to the location of the phone! tinyurl.com/ux5svae |
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Post by choice on Dec 31, 2019 0:50:17 GMT -5
The most prominent feature of the image is the lion. The best I could come up with is the King Street overlooking WPG. Since some of us don't use FB as I replied to your post before on Q4t last November perhaps you should re-post your FB solution here so we can benefit from your wisdom and experience. Nevertheless I'm thrilled that you're thrilled.  |
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Post by canuck on Dec 31, 2019 13:35:23 GMT -5
I found yet another Charleston match in Kinderguardians on page 118. Look behind the bumper of the car and you can clearly see "70". Then look at the branch or whatever that object is stuck under the bumper and you will clearly see a large "3" in the middle of it. Highway 703 leads to Sullivan's Island/Fort Moultrie!!!
The Verse 6 clues for Charleston has always been more subtle/abstract, could find things to make it fit, but not super obvious.
The Verse 5 clues for Charleston are right in our faces and seem way more simple and obvious if you know what to look for.
Guys, I tried to make Verse 6/White Point Gardens work, but the Verse 5/Fort Moultrie clues are just too compelling. Admittedly, a lot of them hinge on Kinderguardians, but the half-dozen clues from that image I've been able to link to Charleston and explain ALL go with Verse 5/Fort Moultrie.
Curious why others don't like Verse 5/Fort Moultrie, other than it forcing a shift in the image/verse pairings?
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Post by canuck on Jan 1, 2020 12:01:59 GMT -5
Happy New Year everyone!
All this discussion regarding Charleston and the Verse 5/Verse 6 debate has actually produced something meaningful and I'm ready to share. I figured it out yesterday, but thought a new decade was the perfect time for new information on The Secret.
We have been going back and forth on the Charleston verse, but finally the scales tipped toward Verse 5 quite definitively.
Now obviously this presents a problem for the "established" image/verse pairings and what the majority of people believe.
To tackle this problem I wrote down the cities and the number of the associated image, leaving the verse column blank. I started by filling in the 3 solved verse numbers, then moved on to ones for places like Milwaukee and Houston for which there is little to no debate. Finally I narrow it down and I'm sitting with 3 cities and 3 verses. Charleston, New Orleans, and Montreal along with Verses 2,5, and 6. Since Charleston is Verse 5, that left Verse 2 for Montreal and Verse 6 for New Orleans.
These are the correct pairings and they all work for those cities!!!
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 4, 2020 22:41:15 GMT -5
a little blur. arrow is pointing to a 2 ? plenty of other stuff. onward.  |
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Post by choice on Jan 5, 2020 0:54:34 GMT -5
The lower area flanked by the wire line is the White Point Garden (blue area). Follow that wire line around the curve down to Fort Sumter (green). Are those ships, 4 of them next to the fort? Slave, Confederate or Union ships? Isn't that how the civil war started? confederates attacking and burning Fort Sumter?  |
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 5, 2020 12:48:19 GMT -5
ok. i have had a good morning. tiny blur. this orientation looks good. you guys can see letters better than i can. also, before you zoom in, look at the prominence of the brown box with what looks like branches attached at the base of the box. then what looks like an L J to the right of the right branch. plenty more. bottom right is a scene, your view is slightly elevated to the scene. onward.  |
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 5, 2020 13:34:33 GMT -5
forgot this one. inside the small circle on the right with the arrows and star, is a post of some sort in three color bands top to bottom, red white blue, same as bands on pic on right. onward.   |
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Post by choice on Jan 5, 2020 14:16:33 GMT -5
Hey, is that a foot print? Little dancer has barefoot.  |
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 22, 2020 23:10:00 GMT -5
what do you see in the gemstone, bottom 2 facets. looks like a 75 on the left facet. flip both vertical and horizontal. taken together, looks like initials P. L. ?
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 22, 2020 23:10:42 GMT -5
that looks like a skunk ape footprint. 😋
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Post by canuck on Jan 22, 2020 23:27:39 GMT -5
what do you see in the gemstone, bottom 2 facets. looks like a 75 on the left facet. flip both vertical and horizontal. taken together, looks like initials P. L. ? I had them both as 7.3, same magnitude as the Charleston earthquake. Also thought the wide dark segment with narrow light segments on either side that can be seen in the bottom middle of the gem looked like the base of the Confederate Defenders monument. |
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Post by SluggoZim on Jan 23, 2020 9:26:33 GMT -5
i have been looking at those light segments as well. nothing yet.
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Post by flyjack on Feb 16, 2020 13:35:33 GMT -5
The Sgt Jasper statue in Madison Square Savannah matches the shape on the lion's head upside down,,, Madison Square has parking meters..
It is a clue for Sgt Jasper which takes us to the other Jasper statue in WPG..
I have an exact spot in WPG figured out.. if somebody can obtain permission to dig, let's go get it.
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