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Post by squirejames88 on Jun 19, 2019 9:22:17 GMT -5
just for fun, I converted the c4 f5 c6 e6 from hexadecimal to decimal. I got 196.245.198.230 It does look like an ip address when you add the dots. If you notice, none of the three digit numbers are over 255 which is true to ip addresses and the limit of "FF" which is decimal 255. This ip address is assigned to a location in Budapest Hungary.
ip addresses won't go to a specific website (correct me if I am wrong, I am sure there are exceptions) but to locations and devices. I don't think this fits to the clues,
but I am throwing it out there for thought. If anyone is bored or ambitious, this can easily be converted to binary also, but at this time I don't see a use for that.
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Post by efanton on Jun 19, 2019 13:30:36 GMT -5
just for fun, I converted the c4 f5 c6 e6 from hexadecimal to decimal. I got 196.245.198.230 It does look like an ip address when you add the dots. If you notice, none of the three digit numbers are over 255 which is true to ip addresses and the limit of "FF" which is decimal 255. This ip address is assigned to a location in Budapest Hungary. ip addresses won't go to a specific website (correct me if I am wrong, I am sure there are exceptions) but to locations and devices. I don't think this fits to the clues, but I am throwing it out there for thought. If anyone is bored or ambitious, this can easily be converted to binary also, but at this time I don't see a use for that. Tried that already. It doesnt work  There's also online NSLOOKUP tools that you can use to find out information about web address or the IP of a web server. I have managed to get my hands on a complete list of registered domains in the .TM .GE. TR. .XXX zones and have done text searches for anything that relates to the Author, his music or the songs that his band play. No Joy unfortunately. Cant post lists here, there are literally hundreds of thousands of entries. I am now pretty convinced that C4 F5 C6 E6 are musical notes, and somehow we have to identify a song that starts with them. How to do that has me completely stumped. I have found nothing on the internet despite searching for many hours. |
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Post by squirejames88 on Jun 19, 2019 13:37:11 GMT -5
You've really done your homework. The c4 f5 etc. so seems like hexadecimal to me, but it doesn't really fit anywhere.
As far as them being musical notes, I have a long musical background, and I can't make heads or tails out of those notes either.
The skip between c4 and f5 is not very typical for a common melody line.
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Post by Jenny on Jun 19, 2019 18:23:29 GMT -5
Maybe only the #'s are important... the 4 of C4, the 5 of F5.... and so on....
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Post by efanton on Jun 22, 2019 16:19:38 GMT -5
I have come to 2 conclusions as to how we can use C4 F5 C6 E6 The numbers do not represent pitch, but instead lengthI have a very basic knowledge of music theory. There are semitone,minims. crochets, quavers, semi-quaver each one half the length of the previous note Lukas claims that we do not need any advanced knowledge so this is probably too advanced to be a valid solution, but if there are any musicians here I wonder if you could have a play with your instrument and see if you can play those notes with the indicated lengths and see what happens. My second discovery for the day is that music can be written in .ABC format. Apparently this is commonly used in the US. Boiled down to basics C would be a octave below c which would be an octave below c'. C would indicate middle C or C on the fourth octave. That's the letters out of the way, how do the number come into it? Well the numbers actually do represent how long the note is. Why I think this is significant is that .ABC files are written in plain text. a browser, notepad, word, or any simple editor is capable of opening these files for viewing. In theory this should make finding a tune with a particular set of notes easy to find, but of course this is the interwebs so things are never as easy as they are supposed to be, unless your searching in the right place you will not find anything  There are loads of sites storing the .ABC files for download. There are even some search engines which I have tried to use using c4 f5 c6 e6 as a search string. Unfortunately I have yet to find a match, but this is possibly because we do not know whether we should be using uppercase letters or lower case letters, or a mixture of both. This is one search engine I have tried abcnotation.com/searchTunes?q=c5f5c6e6&f=c&o=a&s=0a basic guide to using ABC notation abcnotation.com/blog/2010/01/31/how-to-understand-abc-the-basics/again I am hoping there is a musician among us more familiar with this form of notation, who possibly could tell us an easy way to find tunes with the notes that we have |
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Post by squirejames88 on Jun 22, 2019 18:46:21 GMT -5
I have a lot of musical knowledge. I think these pointing to a melody is the wrong path, but I certainly could be wrong.
I also have some knowledge of binary etc. and lean towards these being hexadecimal numbers, however, we have been down
that path with no solution yet either. I very much appreciate all you are putting into this, and you have posted a lot
for us to think about it.
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Post by efanton on Jun 22, 2019 19:11:38 GMT -5
I have a lot of musical knowledge. I think these pointing to a melody is the wrong path, but I certainly could be wrong. I also have some knowledge of binary etc. and lean towards these being hexadecimal numbers, however, we have been down that path with no solution yet either. I very much appreciate all you are putting into this, and you have posted a lot for us to think about it. I have gone through so many theories and rabbit holes in the past week I am at a loss as to which is the right path. So many of the theories have a good logical basis and yet, when you start searching the internet for the detail to prove or disprove that particular theory you find nothing or a couple of maybe's. Its extremely frustrating. you dont expect the answer to rank no. 1 in google listings, that would be a pointless treasure hunt, but at the same time if you search the right site, or find the correct method to solve the puzzle, you would at least expect things to become more obvious. sadly that has not been the case. I dont know whether it is Lukas deliberately over complicating the hunt, or that we simply have not seen the obvious. The melody theory is just such a case, identifying the musical notes should have been the hardest part and elsethecat did a fantastic job of working them out. It seems that if it is a melody then its a perfect case of someone setting a puzzle and over-complicating it or expecting you to land on just one particular website out of the millions that are there for a pointer to solve the riddle. The notes C4 F5 C6 E6 convert so simply into an IP address that its hard to see how it could not be an IP address that we are looking for. But we have tried accessing those servers with no result. Unless Lukas is expecting us to access them via telnet or some other weird protocol I see no progress being made. If they are not a IP address its hard to see what else they could be other than something related to music. At the moment until someone make a break-through I think we have to assume all theories are valid and keep working at them until we can either prove them or eliminate them. |
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Post by elysethecat on Jun 22, 2019 23:16:00 GMT -5
User tcdad said (I believe on the stanza #3 thread) he found some promising websites, including a nonsense bakery with random text in Norwegian. Sounds like the best web discovery so far. No idea how he did it! I'm going to mull over it today (I'm on GMT+2 time) and hope for a Eureka moment. I think we've got to be close. |
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Post by efanton on Jun 24, 2019 10:09:28 GMT -5
If the answer to key 1 is a website in the form XXX.YYYYY.ZZZZ then logically there is limited answers for stanza 5, it must be a zone or top level domain (the .ZZZZ) A complete list can be found here tld-list.com/tlds-from-a-zIt also follows that if the C4 F5 C6 E6 are not musical notes somehow we must " TURN" C4 F5 C6 E6 into one of these. Currently I am working on Caesar ciphers and ROT ciphers, but even with a limited list its going to take a while If each note (C4 F6 C6 E6) represents a character then that means we can eliminate all top level domains that do no use 4 characters. That still leaves a lot of possible domains (over 400). Having a hour to waste I took the full list and reduced it to top level domains that contain 4 characters only. Many can be disregarded I think because they are brand names (FORD, AMEX, etc) but I have left them in for completeness. link to the list here (alphabetical order, not country order) drive.google.com/file/d/1gyD0QOpVfDBD6G-zHESlDWDNEWsoVsXR/view?usp=sharing |
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Post by efanton on Jun 25, 2019 7:30:19 GMT -5
no progress with using codes or ciphers to decrypt C4 F5 C6 E6
BUT.....
TURN is the same as flip
if you flip 4 you can get a h
if you flip F you can get a t
Im sure there are many ways to flip letters and numbers to convert to other letter.
Once you have flipped or mirrored C4F5C6E6 in various way you do not get another word, or anything that matches a top level domain. However thats not the end of the world because what you might get is an ANAGRAM
going to play with this idea for a bit, but if you can all make suggestions for how the letters and numbers C 4 F 5 C 6 E 6 can be converted to letters or other letters we might make progress using anagrams
Here's is a list of possibilities for the letters and numbers I have found
C = C, U
4 = A, h
F = F, t
5 = s, 2
E = E, 3
6 = a, b. p, q, 9
Some letters such as C look the same when you flip them so dont discount them.
If you have others let me know and I will update this list
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Post by elysethecat on Jun 25, 2019 17:19:02 GMT -5
I've been playing around with the notes as numbers. Specifically: 1. Their value in midi - C4=60, F5=77, C6=84, E6=88. 2. Their value as positions on a standard 88-key piano keyboard - C4=40, F5=57, C6=64, E6=88. I've been trying IPv6 and IPv4 formats, mixing up the order of the parts as well. I still don't think I've properly figured out the Fourth Stanza. XXX makes the most sense to me personally, but it doesn't work as an IPv6 element. I tried turning that into 30, still no dice. But this thread is about the Fifth Stanza - so getting back onto topic, any other brainstorm ideas on how to interpret the musical notes? What if they've just been squares on a chessboard all along! LOL  (sigh). |
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Post by efanton on Jun 26, 2019 7:33:43 GMT -5
if stanza 5 is a top lvl domain AND has 8 characters it must be one of the following ABUDHABI AIRFORCE ALLSTATE ATTORNEY BARCLAYS BAREFOOT BARGAINS BASEBALL BOUTIQUE BRADESCO BROADWAY BRUSSELS BUDAPEST BUILDERS BUSINESS CAPETOWN CATERING CATHOLIC CHRYSLER CIPRIANI CITYEATS CLEANING CLINIQUE CLOTHING COMMBANK COMPUTER DELIVERY DELOITTE DEMOCRAT DIAMONDS DISCOUNT DISCOVER DOWNLOAD ENGINEER ERICSSON ESURANCE ETISALAT EVERBANK EXCHANGE FEEDBACK FIDELITY FIRMDALE FOOTBALL FRONTIER GOODYEAR GRAINGER GRAPHICS GUARDIAN HDFCBANK HELSINKI HOLDINGS HOSPITAL INFINITI IPIRANGA ISTANBUL JPMORGAN LIGHTING LUNDBECK MARRIOTT MASERATI MCKINSEY MEMORIAL MERCKMSD MORTGAGE MOVISTAR OBSERVER PARTNERS PHARMACY PICTURES PLUMBING PROPERTY REDSTONE RELIANCE SAARLAND SAMSCLUB SECURITY SERVICES SHOPPING SHOWTIME SOFTBANK SOFTWARE STCGROUP SUPPLIES SYMANTEC TRAINING UCONNECT VANGUARD VENTURES VERISIGN WOODSIDE YOKOHAMA I can see no way possible of converting C4F5C6E6 into one of these. Unfortunately I think the flipping of characters and using anagrams theory is well and truly dead. Time to try something else |
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Post by squirejames88 on Jun 26, 2019 12:48:33 GMT -5
how did you generate this list? not sure how you got there, but I see something interesting.
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Post by efanton on Jun 26, 2019 13:32:57 GMT -5
how did you generate this list? not sure how you got there, but I see something interesting. then cut paste, and lots of manual editing |
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Post by squirejames88 on Jun 26, 2019 18:37:49 GMT -5
curious that one of the words is budapest and we had both come up with budapest as the ip address location obtained from converting the theoretical hex code into an ip address. However,
this seems like merely an interesting coincidence to me.
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(sigh).