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Post by efanton on Jun 26, 2019 19:59:17 GMT -5
tcdad's idea based on stanza 2 that stanza 3 is an album (10 cuts) makes a huge amount of sense to me. It follows that stanza 4 is bowling (10 pins) related and I think we have nailed that, or are there abouts. That would mean that with this stanza (stanza 5) we have to some how TURN C4 F5 C6 E6. I suspect its some sort of simple (yeah I know  ) code or cipher. If it is music related then I would imagine the song or the artist has either TURN in it or somehow relates to the term turn. I'm still not sure whether the web address will be stanza3.stanza4.stanza5 or stanza3.stanza5.stanza4. The problem is until we can get some sort of solution to this stanza (stanza 5) we are dead in the water. We cant even start guessing at web addresses or solutions to this stanza, there's simply too many websites even in limited domains such as .TM (Turkmenistan) or .TR (Turkey) |
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Post by efanton on Jun 27, 2019 17:53:30 GMT -5
this might be relevant, but I'm probably grabbing at straws at this point
C4 F5 C6 E6 are potentially valid moves in the game REVERSI sometime called OTHELLO
what makes this attractive is that REVERSE and TURN (the clue given in stanza 2) have similar meanings.
I have yet to find a website in Turkey or Turkmenistan that have the words REVERSE, REVERSI or OTHELLO in their names except for a hotel website
Also correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Shakespear's Othello about a war between Venice and Turkey?
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jun 29, 2019 19:38:14 GMT -5
The Soprano vocal range is from C4 - E6  |
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Post by fishmini on Jul 1, 2019 9:34:56 GMT -5
If this stanza is the "turn" part of "ten cuts, ten pins, and turn" there is such thing as a turn in music
From Wikipedia:
"A turn is a short figure consisting of the note above the one indicated, the note itself, the note below the one indicated, and the note itself again. It is marked by a backwards S-shape lying on its side above the staff. The details of its execution depend partly on the exact placement of the turn mark"
There are images and more information on the Wikipedia page for "Ornament (music)"
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 1, 2019 16:42:58 GMT -5
I had a jolting thought (that I do NOT think is valid), but I thought of 'tricky' and 'play' as in play a trick, that this whole stanza is a red herring.
Again, I don't think that's true, but it brought me up short.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jul 1, 2019 17:41:05 GMT -5
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 1, 2019 17:56:45 GMT -5
That sounds like it should be the opening of a piece.
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Post by efanton on Jul 1, 2019 19:58:54 GMT -5
I had a jolting thought (that I do NOT think is valid), but I thought of 'tricky' and 'play' as in play a trick, that this whole stanza is a red herring. Again, I don't think that's true, but it brought me up short. it could well be true. I find it hard to believe that so far making sense of the C4 F5 C6 E6 has been so difficult. It strike me that we are over looking something obvious. But the obvious isn't obvious until you have found it. |
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Post by efanton on Jul 2, 2019 19:30:14 GMT -5
I think I have found what has to be the greatest anagram tool in the interwebs wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.htmlIts amazingly good and if you play with the advanced settings there's some very cool features. For instance SHOW CANDIDATE WORDS ONLY will give you a list of possible words that can be made from the letters you entered without them actually being anagrams. Really useful when trying to narrow down likely answers one of the words that popped out using this was 'chest' for instance. I have been playing with different combinations of A4 C5 C6 E6 substituting letters for the numbers (6 for instance could be an a, b, g, p depending on which way you rotate it or view it in a mirror) I have also tried substituting TNT instead of C4 (the clue explode) just to see what could be found. There's so many combinations to try that its going to take a few days to go through them, but if someone else wants to play with it as well it might be beneficial |
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 2, 2019 19:51:02 GMT -5
That's the same anagram tool I always use. I didn't realize there are advanced options, though. That's useful.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jul 3, 2019 23:00:02 GMT -5
A thought...
could "no sea legs here" be C-flat (Cb or B)? No sea legs needed if it's flat.
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Post by elysethecat on Jul 4, 2019 4:57:00 GMT -5
I've been considering that "play it carefully" refers to the order in which the numbers are placed. Perhaps Jenny was onto something when she made the suggestion that the letters were not part of the third key fragment, just numbers. I've been working on this idea since yesterday, but haven't been able to come up with anything. If CArEFully indicates the order of the notes/numbers, then perhaps we need an A instead of two Cs. I haven't come up with any good A-words that would fit with no sea legs or explode. I've attempted quite a bit of brute force with the numbers since the parameters aren't very big when dealing with music notes. I've tried combos like 4?65 and ?465, etc. As well as the full alphanumerics - C4A?E6F5, etc. Of course, the E or F could also be totally off.
I like the idea of single digits because it fits with the "10-cuts" angle I've been working: ten numeric digits - XXX YYY ZZZZ.
I do like the C-flat idea because it fits really well with the riddle. I'm definitely keeping it in mind as I attempt to muscle through my CArEFully craziness. HA!
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 4, 2019 11:04:52 GMT -5
To be honest, I think I figured out this stanza. But I'm only about 75% sure, so no bingo moment. I won't know for sure until I see the actual treasure chest.
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Post by TheCoyWonder on Jul 4, 2019 14:07:26 GMT -5
To be honest, I think I figured out this stanza. But I'm only about 75% sure, so no bingo moment. I won't know for sure until I see the actual treasure chest. That's awesome. If you find yourself in a more comfortable place to share about it, let us know, but I get holding a few cards close to your vest. |
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 4, 2019 16:09:42 GMT -5
It's a matter of what I think the final format of key1 is. If my hunch is right, we've pretty much already figured this one out. But I have the opposite view than some. I think the most important thing is finding the location first because then we can see what the input fields for unlocking the chest look like. Also we can try keys to see if they work.
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) code or cipher. 
