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Post by efanton on Jul 4, 2019 17:01:27 GMT -5
It's a matter of what I think the final format of key1 is. If my hunch is right, we've pretty much already figured this one out. But I have the opposite view than some. I think the most important thing is finding the location first because then we can see what the input fields for unlocking the chest look like. Also we can try keys to see if they work. in confused. Key 1 is I assume a URL that takes you to the website Are you suggesting yo got a url from somewhere else and think the 3 parts of key 1 are used once you get to website?
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Post by susb8383 on Jul 4, 2019 17:15:17 GMT -5
Hi efanton,
This is the same disagreement we've had on another thread.
You think key 1 will get us a url, but I don't.
I think stanza 7 will get us a url and key 1 is just used to unlock the chest once we get there.
But, no, I have not figured out stanza 7 or found a url yet.
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Post by efanton on Jul 6, 2019 19:01:02 GMT -5
YAY. !!! I think I have made a breakthrough. What has always bugged me about stanza 5 is the first line Having searched for hours, days and nearly weeks, for a song that uses the notes C4 F5 C6 E6 its irritatingly obvious that its tricky, no let me correct that, its damn near impossible. That got me thinking why is it there if not just padding to make up the verse. Then I had a eureka moment. What if that was supposed to be The last part is a Tricky one If I said the last part was a Mick Jagger one it would be totally obvious as to where to start searching. Now it happen there is an artist called Tricky who was very famous for a while (possibly still, but its not my sort of music) So I spent hours yesterday listening to any song he made that I could find. And then I think I found it. Hell is round the corner www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ebCs2mWawyou have to listen VERY closely to the first 5 seconds of the song. CONCENTRATE on the SYNTH in the background. You might have to stop and replay a few times to get it. Its a sample so gets a bit mushed on the second or third note but I think that's it. Going with my .TM theory, I went hunting and found that HELL.TM was a registered domain. With a DNS lookup it says the domain is live but there is no IP address. Simply entering HELL.TM into a browser will not work. So then I tried every combination possible (I think) of Michigan area codes. for example 313.hell.tm 1313.hell.tm MI.hell.tm dearborn.hell.tm michigan.hell.tm plus 100+ more It got very tedious so I created a spreadsheet with all 38 area codes, area codes with a 1 in front, and the actual area in text, got excel to generate hyperlinks and then clicked my way through all 114 combinations. No joy I'm afraid. I'm pretty certain that Hell.TM is a dead domain that's registered but not in use. I was so excited that I didnt realise it took me nearly two hours to go through them all. I dont think I have yet listened to all his songs, so I might be using the wrong one, but I think this idea has legs. (Lukas you are turning me into a sad bastard, I'll turn into one of those geeks that never leave their room if this keeps up. But I hope you get a giggle out of this.)
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Post by elysethecat on Jul 7, 2019 5:05:06 GMT -5
What if that was supposed to be The last part is a Tricky one Hell is round the corner www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ebCs2mWawyou have to listen VERY closely to the first 5 seconds of the song. CONCENTRATE on the SYNTH in the background. You might have to stop and replay a few times to get it. Its a sample so gets a bit mushed on the second or third note but I think that's it. Are you talking about the "Glory Box" sample or the first few song notes? I believe the first two notes to Hell is Round the Corner are D4 and A6 (then it does get muddled when Glory Box takes over). (EDIT: Oops! The sample is from "Ike's Rap II" by Isaac Hayes, which Portishead also sampled)
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Post by efanton on Jul 7, 2019 6:39:14 GMT -5
What if that was supposed to be The last part is a Tricky one Hell is round the corner www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ebCs2mWawyou have to listen VERY closely to the first 5 seconds of the song. CONCENTRATE on the SYNTH in the background. You might have to stop and replay a few times to get it. Its a sample so gets a bit mushed on the second or third note but I think that's it. Are you talking about the "Glory Box" sample or the first few song notes? I believe the first two notes to Hell is Round the Corner are D4 and A6 (then it does get muddled when Glory Box takes over). (EDIT: Oops! The sample is from "Ike's Rap II" by Isaac Hayes, which Portishead also sampled) I'm not talking about the strings and drums part. Listen for the synth that seems to play 5 notes, four ascending and the last one descending. The synth seems to play the very first note and the ascends through your portishead/Ike sample.
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Post by elysethecat on Jul 7, 2019 6:42:35 GMT -5
The synth plays a d4 then an a6, ascending, before the sample.
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Post by efanton on Jul 7, 2019 6:50:36 GMT -5
The synth plays a d4 then an a6, ascending, before the sample. Not having a musical background I will take your word for it. The main point of my post was about the first line, how to narrow down the search by substituting Tricky for tricky. As I have said I am slowly trawling through any song I can find by the artist Tricky. You and others might have access to more of his music than I have. I cant see how Lukas would expect us to find a song with those notes from every song ever created, I think he has given us a clue to narrow down our search.
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Post by squirejames88 on Jul 7, 2019 8:16:46 GMT -5
I like the tricky artist idea, but I have a very musical ear and I don't hear anything more than an octave skip in the synth.
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Post by efanton on Jul 7, 2019 13:27:09 GMT -5
I like the tricky artist idea, but I have a very musical ear and I don't hear anything more than an octave skip in the synth. Like I said 'Hell is round the corner' might not be the rights song. I am not familiar with Tricky's music so slowly trying to go through all his songs to try find a match
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Post by squirejames88 on Jul 7, 2019 15:15:52 GMT -5
I'll give it a shot also. Right or wrong, its a great idea. I have the gift/curse of perfect pitch. I say curse because anything slightly out of tune makes me cringe.
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Post by mrpoirot on Jul 8, 2019 16:13:39 GMT -5
I love the theory with C4 F5 C6 and E6. Makes a lot of sense to me. BUT. Assuming Dearborn and XXX (or variants of those) are correct, this stanzas should probably also be of the same format: Multiple descriptions of a word/term/name... All I can think of is Chess. (tricky, play) and C4 F5 being the English Anglo-Dutch defense situation... www.365chess.com/eco/A10_English_Anglo-Dutch_defense
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Post by efanton on Jul 8, 2019 16:36:12 GMT -5
I love the theory with C4 F5 C6 and E6. Makes a lot of sense to me. BUT. Assuming Dearborn and XXX (or variants of those) are correct, this stanzas should probably also be of the same format: Multiple descriptions of a word/term/name... All I can think of is Chess. (tricky, play) and C4 F5 being the English Anglo-Dutch defense situation... www.365chess.com/eco/A10_English_Anglo-Dutch_defenseThe problem with the chess solution is that the third move would be illegal. I did suggest othello or reversi as a solution as those moves could possibly be in sequence but I see no way to incorporate it. I have searched a lot of Top Level Domains but apart from one which turned out to be a hotel Othello website I found none. That doesnt mean it CANT be part of the solution, just that my incompetence  has prevented me from finding it
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Post by mrpoirot on Jul 8, 2019 17:36:25 GMT -5
Also: XXX is a domain. Have we considered it? I think that domain can be ruled out quite easily as it is for adult related material it seems. 
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Post by elysethecat on Jul 8, 2019 23:46:53 GMT -5
For the record, I've also given up on XXX as a domain. I've been working primarily with numeric solutions, in varying orders. So far, I really love the 42/ A2 / 101010 theory for the second stanza. Also, excellent find on the Greek Church! How random, fun, and fitting! I will definitely be adding that to my growing collection of (infinite) possibilities to pry and plug.
As far as C4 F5 C6 E6, I've also been considering other HEX characters in lieu of C6 (still uncertain about that one), such as DC (dizzy?) and the whole A range. A, because of "play it CArEFully" used as an indication of order/position. I've also been using "turn" as a reversal for every combo (part 3 and the key in its entirety) as I eliminate possible solves.
I have also been re-examining the chess angle for the last few days, looking at various chess openings, moves, etc. I'm not even sold on my own guesses of C4, F5, etc., being 100% accurate, so have been trying all types of variations.
(fun fact, and almost certainly NOT intentional: "alchemy's best" anagrams into "my chess table" LOL)
Today I'll revisit the musical angle with the addition of an A-note range and various ordering to see if anything might vaguely correspond to Lukas' music, mostly as a process of elimination. A few weeks ago, I focused on a musical angle by my search parameters were too narrow. I feel we have much more perspective and a wider field of potential possibilities now.
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Post by mrpoirot on Jul 9, 2019 19:40:50 GMT -5
This stanza seems to be the one to solve first and I think I have found a solution that might work...
A song by D.D.E: Dixie by Daniel Decatur Emmett. This has been mentioned before and I think it makes most sense. No sea legs here: Tennessee. This state is landlocked so it makes sense. Strongest wind: Tropical cyclone Olivia on April 10, 1996 is the strongest wind on record. Explode: Alfred Nobel invented the dynamite and his price is handed out on December 10 every year.
What to make out of this?
Some historians say Dixie comes from the French word for 10 (dix) as it was written on the 10-dollar bills at the time in New Orleans.
See the pattern? 10 seems to fit them all. Now as some as suggested we should do it in reverse. BUT, before we do, let's write it out. So TEN backwards is NET! Bingo. That could be the top level domain...
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