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Post by Jenny on Jun 14, 2019 6:44:28 GMT -5
Is the Location of 'Where Warm Waters Halt' only discerned by the rest of the Poem being followed correctly, or is it precisely given/hinted to in the Poem in some way? What do you think?
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Post by Jenny on Jun 14, 2019 7:03:32 GMT -5
One of the comments leading a person to feel WWWH is not confirmed until the treasure is found is from Forrest saying something to that effect: He mentioned until someone finds the Treasure you can't be sure you have discovered the first clue.
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Post by npsbuilder on Jun 14, 2019 10:35:54 GMT -5
I have taken many approaches and thinking for this very topic. For me, WWWH is just a clue and not a particular place.
The Clue helps the searcher to determine where to start. Of course this is just my thinking and very well could be wrong.
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Post by Jenny on Jun 14, 2019 11:07:49 GMT -5
Please know... just bringing up for discussion.... Forrest is known to have said, 'there are many places in the Rocky Mountains where warm waters halt'....
This does seem to suggest what you are saying, not a particular place, but circumstance....a clue where to start...
however, you have to discover the 'correct one'.... which after following the other clues..then you might become more confident in your 'starting place'...
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 14, 2019 12:20:53 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: we have some more guidance on the nature of WWWH. It's not direct from Forrest's mouth or fingers, but it is (I believe) reliable second-hand information via Dal. In Nine Clues part 25, Dal posted on 12/29/2013 in reply to well-known searcher dollarbill: "$bill-I agree.. Forrest once told a searcher who suggested that the entire YNP could be the place where warm waters halt that he was wrong... That it was a specific place and not a region... Which suggests to me that it could not be something like the continental divide or the western front of a range of mountains... as has been suggested in other posts on this blog.."
I'm confident that Forrest's WWWH is a precise geographic spot on a map, and that it is confidently and definitively determinable from the poem. This is pretty much a requirement for a searcher to "move with confidence" and for Forrest to be able to claim "Nothing about it will be accidental."
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Post by rolltide on Jun 14, 2019 22:16:21 GMT -5
"So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure :"
Forrest has said that the first clue is "Begin it where warm waters halt".
In order to be able to follow that clue "precisely", then it has to be a particular place, and not some general area or broad region.
I don't claim to be correct on any of this but, according to my translation of the poem, it gives me a State, a mountain range, a county, and the name of a town. That's pretty precise, in my opinion. And it gets even more precise than that.
So, imo, the poem identifies wwwh as a very precise spot.
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Post by Bownarrow on Jun 14, 2019 22:47:51 GMT -5
I agree with rolltide. I believe that WWWH is a very particular spot.
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least a dozen clues/hints both in the poem and elsewhere, that can be linked to this spot.
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Post by heidini on Jun 15, 2019 0:00:28 GMT -5
The setting for the chase is started in stanza one. Find that area, find WWWH.
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Post by heidini on Jun 15, 2019 0:01:17 GMT -5
"So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure :" Forrest has said that the first clue is "Begin it where warm waters halt". In order to be able to follow that clue "precisely", then it has to be a particular place, and not some general area or broad region. I don't claim to be correct on any of this but, according to my translation of the poem, it gives me a State, a mountain range, a county, and the name of a town. That's pretty precise, in my opinion. And it gets even more precise than that. So, imo, the poem identifies wwwh as a very precise spot. Hi rolltide!
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Post by npsbuilder on Jun 15, 2019 13:20:15 GMT -5
My most recent approach to WWWH is with science in mind. With that said, my WWWH is using the Triple Point of water. This is the precise point where perfect equilibrium where water is Gas, Ice and Liquid at the same time.
GIL - Fish gills
Using this approach, in my thinking, will require 3 solves that triangulates the Precise location of the TC.
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Post by dibbler on Jun 15, 2019 13:36:43 GMT -5
I believe I know the location of where the warm waters halt, I made a post of my own if anyone is willing to do the leg work and go 50/50 on the location I have found, must be able to head to Wyoming and sign an NDA. See my post on the main page.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Jun 16, 2019 22:51:35 GMT -5
My most recent approach to WWWH is with science in mind. With that said, my WWWH is using the Triple Point of water. This is the precise point where perfect equilibrium where water is Gas, Ice and Liquid at the same time. GIL - Fish gills Using this approach, in my thinking, will require 3 solves that triangulates the Precise location of the TC. Have to disagree. Runs afoul of specialized knowledge.
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Post by npsbuilder on Jun 17, 2019 17:37:04 GMT -5
My most recent approach to WWWH is with science in mind. With that said, my WWWH is using the Triple Point of water. This is the precise point where perfect equilibrium where water is Gas, Ice and Liquid at the same time. GIL - Fish gills Using this approach, in my thinking, will require 3 solves that triangulates the Precise location of the TC. Have to disagree. Runs afoul of specialized knowledge. Not sure if I agree that this is specialized knowledge. It's basic science. It did lead me to possible meaning and confirmation of what I thought it meant - Your effort will be worth the cold - If you are brave and in the wood Shiver your/me/my timbers - I have used it all 3 ways in the past When I saw Scrapbook 202 posted and read what it was about, I was taken aback when I saw Treasure Island mentioned by FF. I had already started digging into this since shiver my timbers was used in Treasure Island numerous times (8 or 9 times) GIL has also lead me to the East Coast to a city that has a cemetery surrounded by roads that can easily be the names described by lines in the poem. Now I need to Putt the ball into the mausoleum and see what family's name is on in or go across the street to where the Linden tree is.
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Post by ironwill on Jun 18, 2019 20:30:09 GMT -5
The setting for the chase is started in stanza one. Find that area, find WWWH. I agree completely And if you find that area...start thinking about the "big picture" that Forrest suggested. It just might help you find the precise spot...or not.
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Post by heidini on Jun 18, 2019 21:04:05 GMT -5
The setting for the chase is started in stanza one. Find that area, find WWWH. I agree completely And if you find that area...start thinking about the "big picture" that Forrest suggested. It just might help you find the precise spot...or not. I’m looking forward to that pie thing you make. Be there or be square! Ha!
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