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Post by theoretical on Jan 16, 2020 23:58:07 GMT -5
I find the last line of the poem intriguing “I give you title to the gold”. He doesn’t say I give you the gold. Although some think that is simply some sort of legal protection, perhaps FF is stating an obvious truth. There is a title in the chest. To me, this would explain his absolute conviction no one has found the chest. The gold could be somewhere secure that would require the title to access it, even after he passes away. A couple of “important” nouns might reinforce this. A MW (Merriam-Webster) definition of trove is discovery,find. Doesn’t necessarily mean treasure. Oh yea, it just so happens that discovery means “disclosure” as well. And then, he doesn’t say take the gold or treasure and go in peace; he says take the CHEST and go in peace. My largest question to this theory is why did he say he took two trips in to hid it if there was nothing heavy in the chest? Perhaps only part of the treasure is there? Forrest has said a few times that the treasure is there waiting for the one who solves the clues, for the one who makes the lines cross in the right place, etc. Forrest makes it sound like the literal treasure is there intact at the treasure site. I think he even said more specific things about taking the treasure items out first and then the treasure box out second. Do a little bit more research on his words and you will realize that your theory is inconsistent with his words. Thanks Heidini. I will definitely look for those words of FF. You wouldn’t happen to have links would you? |
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Post by heidini on Jan 17, 2020 19:57:09 GMT -5
Forrest has said a few times that the treasure is there waiting for the one who solves the clues, for the one who makes the lines cross in the right place, etc. Forrest makes it sound like the literal treasure is there intact at the treasure site. I think he even said more specific things about taking the treasure items out first and then the treasure box out second. Do a little bit more research on his words and you will realize that your theory is inconsistent with his words. Thanks Heidini. I will definitely look for those words of FF. You wouldn’t happen to have links would you? I could probably find it myself but you would probably get more out of it if you put the work in yourself. It would mean more to you. Try on Tarryscant.com maybe or some of MysteriousWritings website. It might be in a scrapbook also on dalneitzel.com |
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Post by astree on Jan 17, 2020 20:07:01 GMT -5
Thanks Heidini. I will definitely look for those words of FF. You wouldn’t happen to have links would you? I could probably find it myself but you would probably get more out of it if you put the work in yourself. It would mean more to you. Try on Tarryscant.com maybe or some of MysteriousWritings website. It might be in a scrapbook also on dalneitzel.com Heidini, Would you point out how to find information on the mysterious writings website? They used to be a search function on the homepage but I can no longer find it. Thanks in advance astree |
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Post by heidini on Jan 17, 2020 20:20:31 GMT -5
Forrest has said a few times that the treasure is there waiting for the one who solves the clues, for the one who makes the lines cross in the right place, etc. Forrest makes it sound like the literal treasure is there intact at the treasure site. I think he even said more specific things about taking the treasure items out first and then the treasure box out second. Do a little bit more research on his words and you will realize that your theory is inconsistent with his words. Thanks Heidini. I will definitely look for those words of FF. You wouldn’t happen to have links would you? Question posted 6/9/2014: Forrest, You said in the past that the chest is not in a dangerous place; yet searchers are searching along Cliffside’s, raging water, and other seemingly dangerous places. Could you please elaborate or qualify your statement in which you said” The chest is not in a dangerous place” Thanks Edward Edward, thanks for the question. The treasure is not hidden in a dangerous place in the normal definition of the word, realizing that there probably is no place on this planet that is safe under all conditions. Bloggers have quoted me as saying that a child could walk up to the treasure. I don’t think that’s an accurate quote because a three year old girl would have a problem without some help. Remember, I was about 80 when I hid the chest, and had to make two trips.f |
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Post by heidini on Jan 17, 2020 20:21:29 GMT -5
I could probably find it myself but you would probably get more out of it if you put the work in yourself. It would mean more to you. Try on Tarryscant.com maybe or some of MysteriousWritings website. It might be in a scrapbook also on dalneitzel.com Heidini, Would you point out how to find information on the mysterious writings website? They used to be a search function on the homepage but I can no longer find it. Thanks in advance astree I wish I knew. I did do an Internet search in MysteriousWritings archives popped up and I found some stuff that way. Maybe ask Jenny? |
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Post by astree on Jan 17, 2020 21:50:31 GMT -5
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Thank you heidini. I thought might be missing something. Thanks for providing the quote.
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Post by CJ on Jan 18, 2020 2:45:15 GMT -5
I find the last line of the poem intriguing “I give you title to the gold”. He doesn’t say I give you the gold. Although some think that is simply some sort of legal protection, perhaps FF is stating an obvious truth. There is a title in the chest. To me, this would explain his absolute conviction no one has found the chest. The gold could be somewhere secure that would require the title to access it, even after he passes away. A couple of “important” nouns might reinforce this. A MW (Merriam-Webster) definition of trove is discovery,find. Doesn’t necessarily mean treasure. Oh yea, it just so happens that discovery means “disclosure” as well. And then, he doesn’t say take the gold or treasure and go in peace; he says take the CHEST and go in peace. My largest question to this theory is why did he say he took two trips in to hid it if there was nothing heavy in the chest? Perhaps only part of the treasure is there? Forrest has said a few times that the treasure is there waiting for the one who solves the clues, for the one who makes the lines cross in the right place, etc. Forrest makes it sound like the literal treasure is there intact at the treasure site. I think he even said more specific things about taking the treasure items out first and then the treasure box out second. Do a little bit more research on his words and you will realize that your theory is inconsistent with his words. I would argue that his words are nearly always ambiguous - and I realize that he seems to use the words chest and treasure interchangeably - and suggested that he carried both to the hiding spot with the two trips statements. But I've often wondered if he made two trips because he had to dog or create the hiding space, and then make a 2nd trip for the chest...which didn't necessarily contain the gold. Consider the possibility that the deed or rights to the land where the treasure is hidden is at clue 8, 9 is the blaze of his signature at the bottom of the page...that would still put a smile on anyone's face - when you go to pick it up from the private land....I could be wrong, but I have to keep pushing the boundaries. Great questions to ask would be: Were the two trips from the car required because you had to take the chest in one trip and the gold in the other? I mean - was 42 pounds just too heavy for him? Perhaps. Where would he have kept the gold when he did that? Did he have two backpacks? Just trying to imagine how he went about the whole hiding of it... |
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 18, 2020 2:50:42 GMT -5
Forrest has said a few times that the treasure is there waiting for the one who solves the clues, for the one who makes the lines cross in the right place, etc. Forrest makes it sound like the literal treasure is there intact at the treasure site. I think he even said more specific things about taking the treasure items out first and then the treasure box out second. Do a little bit more research on his words and you will realize that your theory is inconsistent with his words. I would argue that his words are nearly always ambiguous - and I realize that he seems to use the words chest and treasure interchangeably - and suggested that he carried both to the hiding spot with the two trips statements. But I've often wondered if he made two trips because he had to dog or create the hiding space, and then make a 2nd trip for the chest...which didn't necessarily contain the gold. Consider the possibility that the deed or rights to the land where the treasure is hidden is at clue 8, 9 is the blaze of his signature at the bottom of the page...that would still put a smile on anyone's face - when you go to pick it up from the private land....I could be wrong, but I have to keep pushing the boundaries. Great questions to ask would be: Were the two trips from the car required because you had to take the chest in one trip and the gold in the other? I mean - was 42 pounds just too heavy for him? Perhaps. Where would he have kept the gold when he did that? Did he have two backpacks? Just trying to imagine how he went about the whole hiding of it... Try going for a hike at altitude inconspicuously carrying 42lbs. Now imagine you're in your eighties. Pretty sure he made two trips due to the weight. |
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Post by heidini on Jan 18, 2020 9:43:14 GMT -5
youtu.be/09sfMGtGRFACrysty fiorello, a fenn tuber, went to planet fitness. She hiked with 20 pounds in her backpack and tried to hike a few miles. She said it was super difficult. She is young and in good shape. Now imagine her being an 80-year-old man.
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Post by heidini on Jan 18, 2020 9:45:11 GMT -5
Forrest has said a few times that the treasure is there waiting for the one who solves the clues, for the one who makes the lines cross in the right place, etc. Forrest makes it sound like the literal treasure is there intact at the treasure site. I think he even said more specific things about taking the treasure items out first and then the treasure box out second. Do a little bit more research on his words and you will realize that your theory is inconsistent with his words. I would argue that his words are nearly always ambiguous - and I realize that he seems to use the words chest and treasure interchangeably - and suggested that he carried both to the hiding spot with the two trips statements. But I've often wondered if he made two trips because he had to dog or create the hiding space, and then make a 2nd trip for the chest...which didn't necessarily contain the gold. Consider the possibility that the deed or rights to the land where the treasure is hidden is at clue 8, 9 is the blaze of his signature at the bottom of the page...that would still put a smile on anyone's face - when you go to pick it up from the private land....I could be wrong, but I have to keep pushing the boundaries. Great questions to ask would be: Were the two trips from the car required because you had to take the chest in one trip and the gold in the other? I mean - was 42 pounds just too heavy for him? Perhaps. Where would he have kept the gold when he did that? Did he have two backpacks? Just trying to imagine how he went about the whole hiding of it... Maybe his words are ambiguous because you haven’t figured out what he’s trying to say. Maybe once it is solved, everything will come together and we will all realize that he was actually quite literal and straightforward with most of his statements. |
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Post by theoretical on Jan 18, 2020 11:00:55 GMT -5
Thanks Heidini. I will definitely look for those words of FF. You wouldn’t happen to have links would you? I could probably find it myself but you would probably get more out of it if you put the work in yourself. It would mean more to you. Try on Tarryscant.com maybe or some of MysteriousWritings website. It might be in a scrapbook also on dalneitzel.com What I’m getting at is that in the blog searching that I’ve done, I have not found anything that disproves there may literally be a title to the gold in the chest. I was wondering from your post as a moderator that you may have such proof? Although I am new to this MW blog as a poster, and I do not generally post on any social media, I am not new to the search or to reading the blogs. I try to limit my analysis to only things FF has said. But these blogs are a massive, confusing world of opinions, for sure, and all of us may miss or misinterpret things. I am of the belief there is something in the chest that allows Forrest to know with certainty it has not been found. Just my opinion. I think this would be a great question to ask FF. As I posted originally, I understand there is a lot suggestive that the treasure is in the chest. But no one has found it in ten years so I am currently re-examining the words in the poem, as FF suggests to do. As Jenny has previously stated, FF has made seemingly contradictory statements in the past. Using trove without the word treasure I don’t think is normal, so I am exploring that. Using chest in place of gold or treasure also caught my interest. And I am looking at other words that I will now keep to myself. I really do not need a lecture on what I will or will not get out of my search. I would not presume to tell you what you will get from the search. |
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Post by heidini on Jan 18, 2020 11:55:20 GMT -5
OK so you don’t need a lecture? Why would you say that when you’re asking questions. That would be counterintuitive. If you don’t want help then you don’t want to help. Good luck in your search.
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Post by CJ on Jan 18, 2020 12:07:48 GMT -5
OK so you don’t need a lecture? Why would you say that when you’re asking questions. That would be counterintuitive. If you don’t want help then you don’t want to help. Good luck in your search. I don't think anyone was lecturing - we're having an interesting discussion....on the ambiguous comments, I DO believe that SOME things that he has said will be very clear and make sense and be straight forward. I guess my point is that I also believe that many things that he says don't have any meaning to the hunt and are not helpful at all....like the fact that he took a "sedan". I'm definitely not one of the people who analyze every word that he writes or says. I think if you know what you're looking for, then some of the things that he writes or says are clear hints...if you know what the poem and big picture story are about. I don't think he ever said anything about whether the box or the treasure were first in those two trips...and I'll bet if you ask he'll say something like "does it really matter?". I don't have any problem with it - and I may be way off base with the thinking about a "deed" (I came up with that because of an interesting way that I found it in the poem)....I guess a paper deed would be ruined if the treasure was wet....unless the deed is in the box, but the treasure isn't....I'm probably wrong - but just trying to stretch my thinking. I've been in the hunt for several years and sometimes it's hard to come up with new ideas after 10k people have already had so many. |
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Post by richard on Jan 18, 2020 12:14:34 GMT -5
If you read Jenny's remarks you would know of the story she tells about when she, her husband, and Forrest, went to San Lazaro. She stated they had to walk a short distance, and that Forrest had to stop a couple of times to rest. That in it's self should tell you a lot.
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Post by davebakedpotato on Jan 18, 2020 12:18:14 GMT -5
The fact he took a sedan, and wants someone to throw a bedroll in the back of a pickup and go look tells us something about the route he took to the parking spot. IMO it's one of the more useful statements, bearing in mind the search area is specifically in the Rockies.
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