Is the double omega a clue?

[thrillchaser]

thanks sad so short

[kk]

Second chances perhaps

[Jenny]

Feb 2, 2020 15:55:32 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

Hi Jenny: since there are clues (for me) in Seventeen Dollars a Square Inch -- including that quadplet to Eric -- I would not be at all surprised if there is an Eric Sloane tie-in to the omegas. Two can keep a secret if one is dead, so perhaps Eric knew Forrest's hiding location.

With the story of flying over places together and their deep friendship.....and the two omegas first appearing in the 17 book, Eric very well could be the 'second person'. This place could be very special to Forrest because of his memories shared with Eric.

[zaphod73491]

Trouble is, Forrest was specifically asked if anyone else ever knew where he hid the treasure and he said something close to "No, just me." So sounds like not only did Eric not know, no one has ever known.

[Jenny]

Feb 7, 2020 17:20:44 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

Trouble is, Forrest was specifically asked if anyone else ever knew where he hid the treasure and he said something close to "No, just me." So sounds like not only did Eric not know, no one has ever known.

Do you have that quote?


Because the way you put it, it doesn't sound conclusively like that to me. I wonder how Forrest took the question.

I understand what you are saying. However, I 'could' take that question as asking if anyone else ever knew where the treasure is buried -- not necessarily knowing the location, but knowing he hid the treasure there. Others might have once known of the location (just not that he hid it there). And in the case of Eric, who had since passed- he wouldn't know he hid the treasure there.

Only he ever knew where he hid the treasure, which he was always asked, and always stated he was the only one who knew.

He might have taken it that way. It's difficult to say without the quote. Not that it much matters....

[brianu]

It was probably top secret Forrest stuff, but I'm not certain, with my solve you can tell the whole world and they'll just scroll on by.

[zaphod73491]

Hi Jenny: on my phone, not my computer, so hard to search it for you. There is the KOAT interview in 2015: "Does anyone know where it is besides yourself?" to which he answered "Only me." But that doesn't necessarily address people who might have known but are no longer alive. Similar loophole in the Torg & Elliott show. I ~feel~ like there was a quote that addressed the "ever knew" angle, but I'll need my computer database to find it.

[Jenny]

Feb 7, 2020 20:26:59 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

Hi Jenny: on my phone, not my computer, so hard to search it for you. There is the KOAT interview in 2015: "Does anyone know where it is besides yourself?" to which he answered "Only me." But that doesn't necessarily address people who might have known but are no longer alive. Similar loophole in the Torg & Elliott show. I ~feel~ like there was a quote that addressed the "ever knew" angle, but I'll need my computer database to find it.

'Does anyone know where it is besides yourself?' - 'only me'


Again that quote doesn't say anything conclusive about if anyone else ever knew the location or not. Like you said, 'It' in the sentence could be referring to the 'treasure chest', or the person that could know is dead. In that example it's very possible someone else knew/visited the location (but has now passed)...and not saying it is Eric...could be someone else.


It was third hand...but I know there was a Q/A about if his dad (or brother) read the poem would he know. I've heard both yes and no to that Q/A.

[zaphod73491]

Hi Jenny: okay, back with computer access. Took 3 seconds to find the quote:

MW Q&A (12/6/2017): "Dear Forrest, In your book you mention ‘two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Did someone else know the place you hid your Treasure Chest? ~ Carolyn" FF: "No, just me. f"

Note the past tense: DID someone else know the place. That covers dead people.

[shark]

Feb 8, 2020 21:57:40 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

Hi Jenny: okay, back with computer access. Took 3 seconds to find the quote:

MW Q&A (12/6/2017): "Dear Forrest, In your book you mention ‘two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Did someone else know the place you hid your Treasure Chest? ~ Carolyn" FF: "No, just me. f"

Note the past tense: DID someone else know the place. That covers dead people.

Eric may not know "the place he hid the treasure chest"... but he may know the place.

FF could have easily played a word game there being honest and deceptive at the same time

[zaphod73491]

Shark: it's a possible loophole, but I'm not much of a fan of forever invoking subterfuge as an explanation, when Occam's Razor suggests a simpler alternative. The solution that most simply explains Forrest's response to this and similar questions is that he alone knows or ever knew the spot.

I don't doubt that there are, or were, people that might suspect the rough area that Forrest chose, but not the specifics. And I would not put Eric on my short list of candidates.

[Jenny]

Feb 9, 2020 2:08:09 GMT -5 shark said:

Feb 8, 2020 21:57:40 GMT -5 zaphod73491 said:

Hi Jenny: okay, back with computer access. Took 3 seconds to find the quote:

MW Q&A (12/6/2017): "Dear Forrest, In your book you mention ‘two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Did someone else know the place you hid your Treasure Chest? ~ Carolyn" FF: "No, just me. f"

Note the past tense: DID someone else know the place. That covers dead people.

Eric may not know "the place he hid the treasure chest"... but he may know the place.

FF could have easily played a word game there being honest and deceptive at the same time

Thanks Zap.... that is a great quote, but it still doesn't confirm anything. I think the question needs to be something like:

'Are you the only person who was ever At the location you later chose to hide your treasure chest?'

Those Q/A's do not answer that question in my opinion.

Forrest is only saying he is the only one who knows the place where he hid the treasure. Which he has always said. No one but him knows the place where he hid the treasure, but that doesn't mean no one knows the place (before he hid it there)..... The past tense use of DID is only confirming no one has since passed, which knew where he hid the treasure (died after 2010).

It's not invoking subterfuge-- It's not wanting to make a false assumption that Forrest has said he is the only one who was ever at the location.


He hasn't said that at all.

There isn't any proof of that with the Q/A examples given.

[thrillchaser]

I agree that saying not knowing where the chest is hidden is not the same as saying no one else ever went to the location with him.



sounds to me like eric could have known the location. do we know if he ever went up to yellowstone with forrest?

[crm114]

Feb 10, 2020 12:10:19 GMT -5 thrillchaser said:

I agree that saying not knowing where the chest is hidden is not the same as saying no one else ever went to the location with him.



sounds to me like eric could have known the location. do we know if he ever went up to yellowstone with forrest?

I'm not aware, but that does not mean they could not have talked about it. In fact, I recall reading in the past year an account that Eric and Forrest at least joked about hiding a treasure together. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I read that. It could have just been speculation. This would have had to be before Forrest got cancer if true. They did joke about building a bridge together:

dalneitzel.com/2019/12/08/scrapbook-two_hundred-forty-five/#comment-855800

Nevertheless, it prompted me to think that Forrest contemplated burying a treasure for a long time. I'm pretty sure he's read Treasure Island. He certainly knows of it, and I'm sure he didn't discover it at Borders bookstore.

[heidini]

Feb 10, 2020 14:33:19 GMT -5 crm114 said:

Feb 10, 2020 12:10:19 GMT -5 thrillchaser said:

I agree that saying not knowing where the chest is hidden is not the same as saying no one else ever went to the location with him.



sounds to me like eric could have known the location. do we know if he ever went up to yellowstone with forrest?

I'm not aware, but that does not mean they could not have talked about it. In fact, I recall reading in the past year an account that Eric and Forrest at least joked about hiding a treasure together. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I read that. It could have just been speculation. This would have had to be before Forrest got cancer if true. They did joke about building a bridge together:

dalneitzel.com/2019/12/08/scrapbook-two_hundred-forty-five/#comment-855800

Nevertheless, it prompted me to think that Forrest contemplated burying a treasure for a long time. I'm pretty sure he's read Treasure Island. He certainly knows of it, and I'm sure he didn't discover it at Borders bookstore.

Pirates! Maybe brave and in the wood means “walk the plank!”