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Key 2
Jun 5, 2020 9:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by silentpartner on Jun 5, 2020 9:05:54 GMT -5
I don't think so...It acts as instructions to a location of a Code. Even though it was a very logical and sort of clever method that I used, I am hesitant to think that this is what we're looking for, I guess because I really don't like the ambiguity of anagrams. Also, the phrase itself is all letters Did you get the phrase as a result of using the cipher alluded to in the eighth stanza?
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Jun 5, 2020 9:16:54 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 5, 2020 9:16:54 GMT -5
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Key 2
Jun 5, 2020 9:44:48 GMT -5
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Post by blahpsh on Jun 5, 2020 9:44:48 GMT -5
That’s a very interesting method and something similar to what I was playing around with but didn’t St. Archer Gold just come out this year?
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Post by navelgazer on Jun 5, 2020 15:49:43 GMT -5
the books are club classics by Walter j black I think there are 47 or 48 volumes so there's no way to know for sure which book he's reading from, however, I don't think its important, I think it was to show the number 12 was important but I think vol 12 is the Iliad of homer but not 100% sure Ahh. That was very generous. I searched for hours. Thank you.
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Key 2
Jun 5, 2020 16:31:35 GMT -5
Post by dalakita on Jun 5, 2020 16:31:35 GMT -5
Now, I admit I may be over thinking this, but I am not yet convinced that the use of a "Street Map" view is ruled out. I have re-watched the hint video several times, and to me it seems as though Lukas is talking about the type of map program being used (Google vs Bing) and not the level of detail of the map. As a matter of fact, he says "I personally use Google Maps, and there might be a slight advantage to doing so, compared to Bing maps." One thing of note is that the Equis sign shows up in the street view in Google, but not in Bing! Could that be the "advantage" he mentions? Perhaps he didn't compare and contrast the two version of maps when he created the hunt. If he just used Google, then that is what we should use. Maybe Equis is still in play! Just my two cents.
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Jun 5, 2020 16:41:14 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 5, 2020 16:41:14 GMT -5
If that is the advantage that he is referring to, that wouldn't be slight that would be huge imo. I really think that street view isn't required because like someone else said, he made this hunt with longevity in mind, so if after 5 years this wasn't solved, a lot of the features in the street view would be way different or non existent, because google changes it's street view every year right? However, the map view which is what you see at map.google.com btw, wouldn't change. He did say "it doesn't matter which map you use" and then later named google and bing off the top of his head? I think that is another reason he says that this is fair and equal?
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Post by fishmini on Jun 5, 2020 16:54:39 GMT -5
I think street view is still in play because you can view old versions of Google street view maps. He said he designed the riddle with longevity in mind but another stanza uses a phone number for a buisiness, which could change. I don't think that excludes street view because it is only updated every few years.
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Key 2
Jun 5, 2020 17:06:40 GMT -5
Post by dalakita on Jun 5, 2020 17:06:40 GMT -5
Google can actually be really slow in updating their street views. The street view for my house is now 3 years old and counting.
My justification for the Equis clue being a "slight advantage" is that Lukas has already shown us there can be several different ways to get to the same clue. Look at the different paths to get to the cipher, for example. Maybe there is another clue that would lead us to Equis that nobody has tied in to the hunt yet. Or at least has posted about yet.
In either case, I think it's great that people are sharing their ideas and thoughts here, and it's probably a good thing to be coming at the solution from different perspectives!
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Jun 5, 2020 17:45:18 GMT -5
Post by Aech on Jun 5, 2020 17:45:18 GMT -5
Before the new clue, I was also thinking the key had to do with the EQUIS sign, but now I'm not so sure because it seems Lukas was saying that he designed the hunt around things more permanent than if a business had a sign in a window the day the Google car captured street view or not, although he has used info from street view in this hunt before.
I don't know Latin, but my research about EQUIS shows that EQUIS is the plural form of the name of the Latin-script letter X. Also it could have something to do with horses? The singular word is EQUUS. The Latin word for equal is AEQUUS (appended A since aces have A's on them) The Latin word for fair is AEQUUM. I've tried a lot of things and can't come up with the solution. Does this bring up any thoughts for any of you?
Also I think the last line of the cipher is very important since he wouldn't clue us in on if it's A cross vs. Across.
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Post by efanton on Jun 5, 2020 18:29:01 GMT -5
MY take on this is that google Streetview and Bing Streetside are both valid BUT ONLY IF THEY BOTH SHOW THE SAME THING
The great news about this is we can use this to our own advantage. Lukas has probably inadvertently given us a far greater hint than he realises.
If it appears in one and not the other we can eliminate that completely as a clue.
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Jun 5, 2020 19:18:32 GMT -5
Post by goldhunter on Jun 5, 2020 19:18:32 GMT -5
Guys Lukas was very cagey about the A Cross / across issue. Take a look at the MARSTALL Building. It struck me that a capital T might relate to 'a cross appended'. The T is missing the upright to turn it into a cross Could he be pointing us to that. I mean MARSTALL and MARSHALL are very close and we know MARSHALL has a significant part to play in this hunt. Curiously MarstallBldg or MarshallBldg would both be 12 characters, I have tried them both in the key checker in various forms but no joy. But with 12 characters and the cross appended clue I wonder if there is more to that? I've looked at Marstall, too. Here was my reasoning...
"across appended high or low in hand" translates to "across appended ace" translates to "across from a supplement of ace"
I consider the small Ace building between the main Ace building and Chevron to be an appendage (although not touching) the hardware store. And, Marstall is directly across from that appendage.
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Jun 5, 2020 19:36:00 GMT -5
Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 5, 2020 19:36:00 GMT -5
Google and Bing show different views. The Equis sign, for example, is not on Bing, so that's why I'm leaning towards Street View not playing a role. Maybe next month's question could be: "Can key 2 be obtained without any form of Street View?"
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Key 2
Jun 5, 2020 19:45:11 GMT -5
Post by efanton on Jun 5, 2020 19:45:11 GMT -5
Guys Lukas was very cagey about the A Cross / across issue. Take a look at the MARSTALL Building. It struck me that a capital T might relate to 'a cross appended'. The T is missing the upright to turn it into a cross Could he be pointing us to that. I mean MARSTALL and MARSHALL are very close and we know MARSHALL has a significant part to play in this hunt. Curiously MarstallBldg or MarshallBldg would both be 12 characters, I have tried them both in the key checker in various forms but no joy. But with 12 characters and the cross appended clue I wonder if there is more to that?
Yes every time I revisit that building I see to find another interpretation to justify looking at it again.
MARSTALL/MARSHALL just seems too convenient
Problem is apart form the name there seem nothing else to work on.
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Jun 5, 2020 20:13:49 GMT -5
Post by goldhunter on Jun 5, 2020 20:13:49 GMT -5
Same here on Marshall/Marstall. Especially if Marshall Mathers was part of the Dearborn clue- which I don't know if he was or not.
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Jun 5, 2020 20:35:19 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 5, 2020 20:35:19 GMT -5
What are some methods that people have been or are trying? We need collaboration unless we want to wait another month to get it narrowed down more. Lukas, either thinks that giving us the exact number of characters isn't going to help us very much, or that he is ready for someone to win this one so that he can launch his new one? Also on the other hand, he seems to think that we already had more information than we needed, and figures it should have been found by now lol. Is it still possible that we can be looking for all numbers solution? Didn't Coy say that he was able to create a paypal password with all numbers?
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