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Jun 5, 2020 21:37:52 GMT -5
Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 5, 2020 21:37:52 GMT -5
If it's a PayPal password, then the rules for it are as follows:
"No consecutive numbers (like 1234 or 4321). At least 1 letter or symbol (like !@#$%^). At least 1 number or symbol (like !@#$%^).". Since Lukas stated there are no special characters, we know it's anything ranging from 1 number and 11 letters, to 11 numbers and 1 letter.
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Jun 5, 2020 23:20:49 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 5, 2020 23:20:49 GMT -5
Okay, so that means that it can't be all numbers, there has to be one letter at least, and you can't have any consecutive letters? like for example would the answers: Ifoundkeys54 or 197084167Key work since they both have consecutive numbers?
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Jun 5, 2020 23:36:09 GMT -5
Post by dalakita on Jun 5, 2020 23:36:09 GMT -5
It looks like it only complains about consecutive numbers if you enter 4 or more (1234 or 4321). Therefore, 2 or 3 consecutive digits should be ok. It doesn't complain about consecutive letters at all.
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Jun 5, 2020 23:39:45 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 5, 2020 23:39:45 GMT -5
thank you I was wondering about that
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Jun 6, 2020 8:26:37 GMT -5
Post by chipveres on Jun 6, 2020 8:26:37 GMT -5
Have tried phone numbers of all three businesses across from Ace seperately & together. (Reply for the person who asked us to post misses.)
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Jun 7, 2020 11:10:30 GMT -5
Post by chipveres on Jun 7, 2020 11:10:30 GMT -5
"A CROSS APPENDED HIGH OR LOW IN HAND". As I see it a cross is X roman numeral 10. Appended is Ace for one. So 101? Maybe the key is an address on 101? Or it is across 101 from the Ace hardware store? Or the key actually ends in 101? I haven't been able to make this pay out. So I'm posting hoping somebody else will do better.
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Jun 7, 2020 11:27:04 GMT -5
Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 7, 2020 11:27:04 GMT -5
I always assumed "high or low in hand" referred to the Ace Hardware store. Still not 100% what "across appended"/"a cross appended" refers to, but I was thinking the "watery tragedy" is the 1964 flood of Gold Beach. That one seems to fit best?
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Jun 7, 2020 12:20:36 GMT -5
Post by Aech on Jun 7, 2020 12:20:36 GMT -5
I agree that the point of the cipher is to get us to the Ace Hardware. My take is that each line gets us closer to it. First we get the city (aurum sand). I think the watery tragedy is the Mary D. Hume. I'm still puzzled by the last line, and perhaps each line has multiple meanings. It could be "a cross appended" and refer to Shore Pine Ln and Strahan St, which seem to make a perfect cross. Our little red line stretch is appended to that.
I think Street view also plays into this because otherwise the stanza about chairs makes no sense.
Also I think its the Ace because there is literally a sign with a picture of a key in the window. KEYS CUT HERE. You can see this sign in both the Google and Bing street views, so it's been there for a while. Are we to take something and cut it to make a key? Do you think the cipher is just to get us to this location, or do you think it's also used to get key 2?
From what Lukas said in the last hint video, it seems the solution is based on things that won't change. The zip code for Gold Beach (at least our stretch) is 97444. I keep looking at those 3 fours, each equal and thinking it play into this somehow, but how?
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Jun 7, 2020 12:27:42 GMT -5
Post by thedutchcoder on Jun 7, 2020 12:27:42 GMT -5
The stanza about chairs refers to (imo) the fact that you can solve this literally from you chair (since it's an armchair hunt) and you don't need to physically go to a location (probably as a safety so that people won't actually go to that store and bother the owners/employees with this). I think the HP cipher only was supposed to lead to the location, I think the main poem/stanzas should be used to actually find key 2, but I could be wrong of course I've also tried to combine a lot of pieces of info in that area, to no avail. The 12 characters hint helps, but not a lot I think, simply because there's _so much_ info in that area that could be used. I also think the last stanzas are purposefully vague, considering this hunt gets progressively harder (imo)... I think stanza 8 is deceivingly difficult to solve. It sounds straightforward, but I don't think it is, considering what we had to do just to get to this location (stanza 7 + difficult to cack cipher + hard to find physical location).
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Jun 7, 2020 13:43:45 GMT -5
Post by Aech on Jun 7, 2020 13:43:45 GMT -5
Yes, the 12 character hint helps a lot to eliminate millions of wrong answers.
I'm hopeful that we are very close to the end and that it won't be too much more. Lukas has said for the past 2 months that he thought so, which makes me think it's something obvious that we just haven't noticed yet.
I had another thought about the last line of the cipher. The whole thing reads like a series of clues to me, which made me think of a crossword puzzle. Crossword puzzle have ACROSS clues and DOWN clues. Maybe it's supposed to be Across in the last line of the cipher and "need not rise up from your chair" is sit DOWN. Since we are looking for an alpha-numeric solution, perhaps the across clue leads to either a number or letters and the down leads to the other? Just a thought.
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Jun 7, 2020 19:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by silentpartner on Jun 7, 2020 19:35:10 GMT -5
The crossword puzzle is a good idea, but for me, since the across part is in the cipher and the down part is referred to in the main stanza, I feel like they're separate hints.
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Jun 10, 2020 13:54:38 GMT -5
Post by roxstarness on Jun 10, 2020 13:54:38 GMT -5
Random thoughts; a friend could be a dog, not necessarily human. I don't know where I read something about a dog earned image or something to that effect...
Each of you is equal could have something to do with "men being created equal"?
Also, could Paypal lock you out if you try too many wrong passwords?
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Jun 10, 2020 15:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by tabfrankie on Jun 10, 2020 15:03:16 GMT -5
You can check the keys on the buried treasure website, so you would know if you had the right password. And if it's not paypal after all, you are only entering an incorrect password once.
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Jun 10, 2020 16:37:01 GMT -5
Post by balloonsrfun on Jun 10, 2020 16:37:01 GMT -5
You are right, but we have to remember. Lukas never intended to have the Key checker set up, so the solution HAS to be something that is nearly unmistakable once figured out. Had he not put the checker up, would we be trying all these "hundreds" of passwords in Paypal?
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Jun 10, 2020 16:41:54 GMT -5
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Post by nicoledigsahole on Jun 10, 2020 16:41:54 GMT -5
I'm surprised he expected people to figure out key 1 without a checker. Seems odd to expect you to call potentially real numbers, and that middle part was pretty difficult to figure out.
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