Fenn does not help anyone privately?

[zaphod73491]

The weight of the chest is an interesting problem. He mentions the weight of the gold in the chest (20.2 lbs.), but the weight units on the gold are NOT the same as what one would ordinarily use to describe the chest's weight. A "pound" of gold weighs considerably less than a pound of bronze. 20.2 troy pounds of gold weighs 16.62 pounds. So assuming the 42-lb. weight is reasonably accurate for the chest plus all its contents, then the chest, olive jar with autobiography, Wetherill bracelet, dragon coat bracelet, jade figures, jewels, etc. collectively weigh about 25.4 pounds. Forrest has separately stated that the bronze chest weighs 22 lbs., so that means the non-gold items in the chest would add up to about 3.4 pounds.

It is somewhat coincidental, then, that the math adds up in Forrest's answer to Richard Eeds' question in 2015:

Eeds: "Okay. Um, how much does it weigh?"

FF: "The gold in the treasure chest weighs 20.2 troy pounds. And the chest weighs forty, uh, twenty-two pounds. So the whole thing, I think, is around 42 pounds."

The implication is that you can simply add 20.2 pounds to 22 pounds and come up with around 42 pounds. But that's misleading because of the mixed weight units.

[grapette79or80]

Thank you Zap. An avoirdupois pound is 21.53% (7000/5760 grains) heavier than a troy pound, so regular pound weight will then be:

Contents: 20.2 troy pounds = 24.5 pounds
Total package: 42 troy pounds = 51 pounds

The normal pound conversions do not ring any bells with me.

However, 42 normal pounds = 3 stones, and 44 normal pounds equal 3.14 stones which of course is pi(e) - (“Why does it seem like I’m talking in circles). I think the pie references have to do with angles, degrees and geometry. People forget Fenn is highly versed in navigation, map reading and is educated a radar specialist. I guarantee you understanding this aspect is a big part of the winning solve.

20.2 I have not figured out but B‘s gematric value is 2 and XX can be interpreted as 20 or T.

I’m just not sure with Fenn how much should be applied in a solve and how much is just fun with numerology with him.

[fundamentaldesign]

Mar 10, 2020 6:35:07 GMT -5 me9 said:

I will give you an important clue, no need to look for the treasure in a place where a 79 or 80 year old man couldn’t go with a 44 pound treasure chest full of gold and precious gems. Good luck. f

dalneitzel.com/2012/10/02/forrest-gets-mail/

This is an important clue?? Really? Is f saying “clue” in the sense that what he is telling here will get one closer to the treasure? Obviously not, but f calls it an important clue anyway.

To me, that’s the same as giving out private helpful information out to a searcher even though it won’t help them get closer to the treasure, if done in private. Just like Zap’s example above with Cynthia and her hoB. Just like with Cynthia and when she wrote that f told her that many lines in the poem have a word that is key (paraphrased).

And telling one searcher group that some other searcher’s location is not correct for some reason.

[thrillchaser]

For all those searchers looking in difficult places to get to, it could be given in the way as- get a clue. it's important to listen good

[grapette79or80]

1 cubic inch of gold weighs 0.7 pounds. Must be alot of air in that chest.

I assume theres about 4-500 cubic inches inside the chest.

What am I missing?

[zaphod73491]

Mar 22, 2020 17:36:36 GMT -5 grapette79or80 said:

1 cubic inch of gold weighs 0.7 pounds. Must be alot of air in that chest.

I assume theres about 4-500 cubic inches inside the chest.

What am I missing?

You're not missing anything; if the chest was filled with solid gold and no air pockets, no one could lift it. (I've always snickered when watching movies with characters handling gold bars like they're regular bricks.) Gold weighs about 19.3 grams per cubic centimeter: people don't realize just how dense that is. It's 70% heavier than lead.