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Post by goldilocks on Feb 22, 2020 17:54:37 GMT -5
Thirdeyefirst: Forrest has used that "all the lines cross" idiom multiple times, more than once in reference to things not tied to the Chase. So it may not have a literal connection to the clues. Forrest's lawyer also used the idiom in the Santa Fe Reporter article "Stealing the Past" from 2009. When defending Forrest he said, "He is well on this side of the line and careful never to cross it." |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 18:11:17 GMT -5
I still think there's an X to be found because he didn't use one in the poem.
On the other hand that could be why he didn't use one in the poem because there isn't one to be found.
I'm so confused right now.
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Post by heidini on Feb 22, 2020 18:44:52 GMT -5
“Heck Shannon, you just widened one of my largest fault lines. In my haste to get back to the helicopter and leave that place, my effort was expended trying to remember the inscription, and I repeated it over and over. In that process the soldier’s name was not retained. All I remember is that his last name had an x in it. Is it strange that I would remember that? But there are no regrets because now he is my personal Unknown Soldier whose lack of identity stands as a metaphor for all men and women who fell in that ugly war and have now faded from our memory. f”
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Post by heidini on Feb 22, 2020 18:45:45 GMT -5
I will try Adell. Read the blogs for entertainment, and the poem like you were going to put an X on a map. Beyond that I am not compelled to reiterate. Hunt prepared and go safely. Good luck. F
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 20:03:45 GMT -5
I will try Adell. Read the blogs for entertainment, and the poem like you were going to put an X on a map. Beyond that I am not compelled to reiterate. Hunt prepared and go safely. Good luck. F Thanks heidini that helps cement my feeling about the X. Thank you very much for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 20:08:09 GMT -5
I will try Adell. Read the blogs for entertainment, and the poem like you were going to put an X on a map. Beyond that I am not compelled to reiterate. Hunt prepared and go safely. Good luck. F Thanks heidini that helps cement my feeling about the X. Thank you very much for that. He's definitely saying read the blog's for entertainment But as far as the poem he was being serious And all is needed is the poem and a good map So I'm sure he wasn't bsing when he mentioned the poem |
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Post by van on Feb 22, 2020 20:13:06 GMT -5
Did FF ever mention a coil type gun in his stories?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 21:11:44 GMT -5
Did FF ever mention a coil type gun in his stories? Van I haven't seen anything on a coil gun before. What you got going with that? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 22:32:23 GMT -5
Can someone help me? I'm probably way off course But I tied a string on the north axis of my globe and taped the other end at Port Elizabeth it automatically made a X at the on the equator The lines crossed pretty much the Congo basin lomami national Park. Lomami is a lomatia forest that produces a yellow crystalline around all the bases of the trees. And it read /see Ubuntu/ Ubuntu is like the same message Forrest said about the human race. It said the origin = Xhosa and Zulu. Rabbit hole or not I tried to put longitude and latitude to hosa and Zulu one way I was at Bonita beach in Florida the other way Greenland. I was hoping for Yellowstone when I saw yellow crystalline. Is this anything? Could I have long and lat wrong?  |
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 4, 2020 2:12:52 GMT -5
A question that I have not seen anybody ask or try to answer anywhere (although it may have been discussed somwhere), is why did ff chose the chest he did for the Chase? Why was it perfect?
This question has bugged me from the outset. The chest does not seem to align with any of ff's interests, so why this chest?
I have found my answer to this question, but am interested if anyone else has thought about it.
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 4, 2020 8:31:15 GMT -5
A question that I have not seen anybody ask or try to answer anywhere (although it may have been discussed somwhere), is why did ff chose the chest he did for the Chase? Why was it perfect? This question has bugged me from the outset. The chest does not seem to align with any of ff's interests, so why this chest? I have found my answer to this question, but am interested if anyone else has thought about it. I haven't really thought about it lately but the first thing I think of when you say chest is ladder. A ladder has a series of steps or rungs to go up or down which help you reach the next level. You can climb up a ladder and slide down the other side like the fire escape in TTOTC, climbing the ladder on The Tower (No Lifeguard on Duty) with his friend Sammy Meyers or standing next to the ladder in Dizzy Dean in which he mentioned ladder 3 times. When he mentions something more than once we need to listen. I'm not sure how a ladder plays into this but it sounds like you may if a ladder is what you had in mind. What about a word ladder (invented by Lewis Carroll)? Now that could be useful when looking at the poem... |
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 4, 2020 10:03:12 GMT -5
A question that I have not seen anybody ask or try to answer anywhere (although it may have been discussed somwhere), is why did ff chose the chest he did for the Chase? Why was it perfect? This question has bugged me from the outset. The chest does not seem to align with any of ff's interests, so why this chest? I have found my answer to this question, but am interested if anyone else has thought about it. I haven't really thought about it lately but the first thing I think of when you say chest is ladder. A ladder has a series of steps or rungs to go up or down which help you reach the next level. You can climb up a ladder and slide down the other side like the fire escape in TTOTC, climbing the ladder on The Tower (No Lifeguard on Duty) with his friend Sammy Meyers or standing next to the ladder in Dizzy Dean in which he mentioned ladder 3 times. When he mentions something more than once we need to listen. I'm not sure how a ladder plays into this but it sounds like you may if a ladder is what you had in mind. What about a word ladder (invented by Lewis Carroll)? Now that could be useful when looking at the poem... Hi Goldi,
I didn't particularly have a ladder in mind, although my word transformations might be thought of in terms of a word ladder.
I was however thinking about the decoration on the chest. It 's theme sticks out like a sore thumb to me, as I see no connection between it and any of ff's interests. Why not chose a chest associated with Native American culture, Egyptian culture, or at least something that FF has written about?
His statement that the chest is not associated with any structure also makes no sense as it is obvious that the chest is associated with a structure - i.e. The Castle of Love. He does not qualify his meaning of structure anywhere, and so the fact that the chest is assoiated with this structure clearly negates his statement.
It might be argued that because the chest is bronze this links to ff's interests. This is a possibility, but the obscurity, and hence notability, of the decoration, makes this idea unlikely in my opinion.
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 4, 2020 11:17:59 GMT -5
I haven't really thought about it lately but the first thing I think of when you say chest is ladder. A ladder has a series of steps or rungs to go up or down which help you reach the next level. You can climb up a ladder and slide down the other side like the fire escape in TTOTC, climbing the ladder on The Tower (No Lifeguard on Duty) with his friend Sammy Meyers or standing next to the ladder in Dizzy Dean in which he mentioned ladder 3 times. When he mentions something more than once we need to listen. I'm not sure how a ladder plays into this but it sounds like you may if a ladder is what you had in mind. What about a word ladder (invented by Lewis Carroll)? Now that could be useful when looking at the poem... Hi Goldi,
I didn't particularly have a ladder in mind, although my word transformations might be thought of in terms of a word ladder.
I was however thinking about the decoration on the chest. It 's theme sticks out like a sore thumb to me, as I see no connection between it and any of ff's interests. Why not chose a chest associated with Native American culture, Egyptian culture, or at least something that FF has written about?
His statement that the chest is not associated with any structure also makes no sense as it is obvious that the chest is associated with a structure - i.e. The Castle of Love. He does not qualify his meaning of structure anywhere, and so the fact that the chest is assoiated with this structure clearly negates his statement.
It might be argued that because the chest is bronze this links to ff's interests. This is a possibility, but the obscurity, and hence notability, of the decoration, makes this idea unlikely in my opinion.
In Psychology the language one uses to describe something is often very telling. So rather than our interpretations of The Castle of Love or ladders, maybe we should be looking at the language Forrest uses to describe the chest. This could be a useful way to take our biases out of the equation and listen to what he thinks the chest is. So what do we know about the chest in Forrest's words? "beautiful little Romanesque treasure chest: 10 inches by 10 inches by 6 inches high. Wonderful Romanesque thing. An antiques scholar told me that it was probably Romanesque, 11th or 12th century. Maybe it held a Bible or a Book of Days. But it was wonderful; had a great patina on it." "the treasure box is I think an 11th or 12th Century Romanesque lock box. So the treasure chest alone is worth $25,000." "the chest weighs 40 uh 22 pounds". "It's in an 11th Century Romanesque Bible box, or a box of letters, and it's a beautiful box. I gave a fortune for that thing, but I loved it so much." "...wonderful little metal cast bronze box, paid $25,000 for this beautiful little chest that's - I don't know how old it is. It's Romanesque." Could Romanesque be the important part - characterized by the use of arches and barrel vaults? You could be right, the chest doesn't seem to fit the personality of the contents. My point is whether the box is Romanesque or not is irrelevant. It is how he describes it. |
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 4, 2020 13:06:23 GMT -5
In Psychology the language one uses to describe something is often very telling. So rather than our interpretations of The Castle of Love or ladders, maybe we should be looking at the language Forrest uses to describe the chest. This could be a useful way to take our biases out of the equation and listen to what he thinks the chest is.
Could Romanesque be the important part - characterized by the use of arches and barrel vaults? You could be right, the chest doesn't seem to fit the personality of the contents. My point is whether the box is Romanesque or not is irrelevant. It is how he describes it.
I like your use of the word "personality". As well as the chest not fitting the personality of the contents, I think more importantly that the decorative scheme does not fit neatly anywhere into ff's known range of interests/personality.
After looking at this aspect for a long time I have little doubt that the thing that to be focused on with regard to the decorative scheme of the chest is the structure depicted - The Castle of Love.
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 5, 2020 1:14:04 GMT -5
After looking at this aspect for a long time I have little doubt that the thing that to be focused on with regard to the decorative scheme of the chest is the structure depicted - The Castle of Love.
It’s “where my heart is,” Fenn writes in “Ramblings and Rumblings.”
"Unusually for a map of love, the plan is drawn from a male perspective: the Castle of Love is the male heart,..."
One of the things that I looked at for along time in connection with the Castle of Love is the Allegorical Map of the Siege of the Castle of Love( see above link)
On this map the Castle of Love is the male heart. In his "Ramblings and Rumblings" apparently says "it's where my heart is". From the context of the article it seems that the "It" refers to Yellowstone. Could however the "it" also be referring to the location of the chest.?
Since the Castle of Love may be equated with the male heart, the place where ff's heart is might be interpreted as the Castle of Love. In other words the Castle of Love marks the location of the chest.
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