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Post by engr101 on Apr 5, 2020 6:18:23 GMT -5
I think Mr. Fenn found the casket interesting and a convenient size for his purpose, plus it was made of durable material and soundly constructed, and nothing more. I don’t believe there is any linkage to a map. The history of the Allegorical Seize can be found here, with an ecclesiastical version of the Seize that is almost identical to the image on Mr. Fenn’s casket: Figure 7 – “The Attack on the Castle of the Church by the World” www.jstor.org/stable/497460 |
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 5, 2020 10:49:13 GMT -5
I think Mr. Fenn found the casket interesting and a convenient size for his purpose, plus it was made of durable material and soundly constructed, and nothing more. I don’t believe there is any linkage to a map. The history of the Allegorical Seize can be found here, with an ecclesiastical version of the Seize that is almost identical to the image on Mr. Fenn’s casket: Figure 7 – “The Attack on the Castle of the Church by the World” www.jstor.org/stable/497460
Hi engr101,
Thank you. I am familiar with that article.
The chest on which the design was taken, was/is? at the Sigmaringen Museum in Southern Germany and was dated to 1280 - 1340.
You bring up an interesting point in that the decoration on the chest is an ecclesiastical version of the Siege of the Castle of Love. The fact that the decoration refers to a Church may be a clue as to where the Castle of Love is located.
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 5, 2020 11:47:40 GMT -5
The Castle Of Love -> The COL -> The CLO -> the lock (W.)
The Castle of Love may be interpreted as the lock in which the key fits
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 5, 2020 12:24:03 GMT -5
The Castle Of Love -> The COL -> The CLO -> the lock (W.)
The Castle of Love may be interpreted as the lock in which the key fits
Or simply castle could be the operative word. I'm thinking Castle Mountains in Montana (Elk Peak - wherever the bugle blows), Meagher County (meek)...just happened to be looking in this area today (on a map of course). |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 5, 2020 18:27:27 GMT -5
For those that favor Colorado, they could take (C)astle (O)f (L)ove as a hint for their state. ;-)
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 6, 2020 11:15:53 GMT -5
One of many things that leads me to believe that The Castle of Love might indicate the hiding place of Indulgence, is the line : If you are brave and in the wood
you are acer(L.) en(fr.) on(L.) the timber -> If you are caer at(F.) on the timbre -> if you are castle(W.) at on the trunk(F.) -> If you are at castle on the chest
This interpretation of the line flows smoothly and logically on from the interpretation of the preceeding lines of the poem.
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 7, 2020 13:14:47 GMT -5
The original chest like ff's depicted in this article is/was located in the museum in Sigmaringen in South Germany.
The coat of arms of Sigmaringen depicts a deer/hart. It may be interpreted from this that the location of the original chest is where the deer/hart is. If ff's chest is based on this chest from Sigmaringen it may be surmised that the location of ff's chest is also where the deer/hart is.
The keep of the Castle of Love on the above map of the Allegorical Seige of the Castle of Love has a flag with a heart on it.
Since hart and heart are homophones it may be interpreted from this that the location of ff's chest is where the heart is - i.e The Castle of Love
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 8, 2020 2:44:00 GMT -5
cariad in English
love { noun }
lover { noun }
friend { noun }
In Welsh the word for love and friend/lover are the same - cariad
The Castle of Love therefore may refer to a castle/chateau/mansion/house of a friend or lover.
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 8, 2020 7:21:36 GMT -5
poem in Scottish Gaelic
òran { noun masculine }
aron: a chest, ark
ff has said that the poem is a map.
poem -> òran -> aron -> chest
From the above, the poem may be equated with the chest, therefore the chest may be thought of as a map.
This in turn suggests that the Map of the Allegorical Siege of the Castle of Love from the British Museum is relevant.
The Welsh word for friend/lover - cariad - is an anagram of "cardia" meaning "heart". The heart on the flag of the Castle of Love is consistent with the idea that the Castle of Love refers to a castle/chateau/mansion/house of a friend/lover.
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