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Post by goldilocks on Mar 15, 2020 14:02:53 GMT -5
Yes maybe the spot can be driven to and the chest (or if it's buried whatever covering and concealing the spot) can be visible with binoculars. That maybe so, but FF has said that he hasn't been back to the spot, and it seems he travels very little now. How would he know that there has been no movement or retrieval without (very) regular trips to the area? I would suggest that there are no easy explanations that stand up to scrutiny. At the risk of thrillchaser getting upset with me again (  ) I believe it's worth thinking the unthinkable: that when FF says he feels almost umbilically attached, he really does mean it. There are a lot of people in the Chase who profess to believe in stories written thousands of years ago, but when confronted by things that are similarly inexplicable by conventional standards today, refuse to accept that just maybe we're witnessing something quite remarkable. Where is our curiosity? Where is our ability to adjust? No, I don't "know" anything, but this adventure has changed what I believe. He wouldn't have to go to the spot to see it, just near it so I guess it depends how exact he is with his wording - back to the spot or back to the spot within hundreds of yards etc. As far as your comment, I don't really know what you are suggesting. Can you be more specific. I have an open mind but not sure what you are trying to say. |
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Post by chesttroll on Mar 15, 2020 14:07:52 GMT -5
All of the solutions above are just not practical. It is my opinion, that the secret on how you find the chest is the Pandora's box that ff speaks of, and that ff thinks the finder will not be able to keep it a secret; Hence a quick announcement. The longer it takes for the announcement of finding the chest, the stronger I feel if my opinion. One more possibility is that the finder just may want to keep a lid on Pandora's box for a time.
Again, this is my opinion as I tend to think outside the norm, lol.
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Post by voxpops on Mar 15, 2020 14:39:43 GMT -5
That maybe so, but FF has said that he hasn't been back to the spot, and it seems he travels very little now. How would he know that there has been no movement or retrieval without (very) regular trips to the area? I would suggest that there are no easy explanations that stand up to scrutiny. At the risk of thrillchaser getting upset with me again ( ) I believe it's worth thinking the unthinkable: that when FF says he feels almost umbilically attached, he really does mean it. There are a lot of people in the Chase who profess to believe in stories written thousands of years ago, but when confronted by things that are similarly inexplicable by conventional standards today, refuse to accept that just maybe we're witnessing something quite remarkable. Where is our curiosity? Where is our ability to adjust? No, I don't "know" anything, but this adventure has changed what I believe. He wouldn't have to go to the spot to see it, just near it so I guess it depends how exact he is with his wording - back to the spot or back to the spot within hundreds of yards etc. As far as your comment, I don't really know what you are suggesting. Can you be more specific. I have an open mind but not sure what you are trying to say. We have a poem that can be, and has been, interpreted tens of thousands of different ways, across millions of acres, and all to no avail. That must tell us that our approach maybe mistaken, and that it simply isn't possible to use conventional methods. At the same time we hear reports from a number of searchers of strange events and finds occurring in their personal searches (I am one of them). Fenn has made many remarks and told multiple stories that leave people baffled. He has said that nothing is as it seems, and that he is the most spiritual person you'll ever know (worth thinking about that); he has spoken about the importance of kindness; he has been seen in a video (one of Dal's IIRC) hinting at how to approach the spiritual journey in the modern world. If you go through his writings and pronouncements with that notion in mind, the hints are all over the place. Most importantly he has told us we have to LISTEN GOOD, and that the clues can LEAD you to the treasure. So if the solution is to listen and then act in response, what are we supposed to listen to? And if FF is also listening for the "clomp" of a boot, how is the deaf old coot managing that? In the end, no one else can break down the barrier that we've all built around ourselves. I can't tell you directly what your inner self is trying to tell you; only you can decide to listen. That's why it's pretty pointless trying to "spit it out" to someone in this thread - it has to come from within. This is as much as I want to say about that aspect, but it bears heavily on how FF KNOWS (without a shadow of doubt IMO) the situation regarding his treasure. And it explains why the eventual finder will be confident. There are many odd things happening in the world right now. I don't know if there is a connection to what we're engaged in, but I do believe that connections, links, passages - call 'em what you will - are what the Chase is all about. |
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Post by theoretical on Mar 15, 2020 15:00:21 GMT -5
Although I am intrigued by the spiritual, perhaps alien, solution being proposed; I would like to offer a possible scientific explanation. Solar panels that could track the sun were known around 2008-2009. Asset tracking devices have also been out there for a while. Although I don’t think solar powered tracking devices were introduced commercially until after the chase started, they certainly exist. Is it possible, FF created such a device? Or had connections for a beta device? I don’t think the blaze is a solar panel but who knows!
globalstar.com/en-us/products/asset-management/smartonesolar
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Post by voxpops on Mar 15, 2020 15:03:53 GMT -5
Although I am intrigued by the spiritual, perhaps alien, solution being proposed; I would like to offer a possible scientific explanation. Solar panels that could track the sun were known around 2008-2009. Asset tracking devices have also been out there for a while. Although I don’t think solar powered tracking devices were introduced commercially until after the chase started, they certainly exist. Is it possible, FF created such a device? Or had connections for a beta device? I don’t think the blaze is a solar panel but who knows! globalstar.com/en-us/products/asset-management/smartonesolar All transmitting devices can be intercepted and traced. |
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Post by goldilocks on Mar 15, 2020 15:45:19 GMT -5
He wouldn't have to go to the spot to see it, just near it so I guess it depends how exact he is with his wording - back to the spot or back to the spot within hundreds of yards etc. As far as your comment, I don't really know what you are suggesting. Can you be more specific. I have an open mind but not sure what you are trying to say. We have a poem that can be, and has been, interpreted tens of thousands of different ways, across millions of acres, and all to no avail. That must tell us that our approach maybe mistaken, and that it simply isn't possible to use conventional methods. At the same time we hear reports from a number of searchers of strange events and finds occurring in their personal searches (I am one of them). Fenn has made many remarks and told multiple stories that leave people baffled. He has said that nothing is as it seems, and that he is the most spiritual person you'll ever know (worth thinking about that); he has spoken about the importance of kindness; he has been seen in a video (one of Dal's IIRC) hinting at how to approach the spiritual journey in the modern world. If you go through his writings and pronouncements with that notion in mind, the hints are all over the place. Most importantly he has told us we have to LISTEN GOOD, and that the clues can LEAD you to the treasure. So if the solution is to listen and then act in response, what are we supposed to listen to? And if FF is also listening for the "clomp" of a boot, how is the deaf old coot managing that? In the end, no one else can break down the barrier that we've all built around ourselves. I can't tell you directly what your inner self is trying to tell you; only you can decide to listen. That's why it's pretty pointless trying to "spit it out" to someone in this thread - it has to come from within. This is as much as I want to say about that aspect, but it bears heavily on how FF KNOWS (without a shadow of doubt IMO) the situation regarding his treasure. And it explains why the eventual finder will be confident. There are many odd things happening in the world right now. I don't know if there is a connection to what we're engaged in, but I do believe that connections, links, passages - call 'em what you will - are what the Chase is all about. Thank you for the explanation. If you are alluding to a personal quest of sorts that we have each embarked on I think that is true. I'm just not sure how this theory would lead to an actual tangible object, the treasure chest, unless the treasure is to be awarded rather than found. |
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Post by voxpops on Mar 15, 2020 15:54:55 GMT -5
We have a poem that can be, and has been, interpreted tens of thousands of different ways, across millions of acres, and all to no avail. That must tell us that our approach maybe mistaken, and that it simply isn't possible to use conventional methods. At the same time we hear reports from a number of searchers of strange events and finds occurring in their personal searches (I am one of them). Fenn has made many remarks and told multiple stories that leave people baffled. He has said that nothing is as it seems, and that he is the most spiritual person you'll ever know (worth thinking about that); he has spoken about the importance of kindness; he has been seen in a video (one of Dal's IIRC) hinting at how to approach the spiritual journey in the modern world. If you go through his writings and pronouncements with that notion in mind, the hints are all over the place. Most importantly he has told us we have to LISTEN GOOD, and that the clues can LEAD you to the treasure. So if the solution is to listen and then act in response, what are we supposed to listen to? And if FF is also listening for the "clomp" of a boot, how is the deaf old coot managing that? In the end, no one else can break down the barrier that we've all built around ourselves. I can't tell you directly what your inner self is trying to tell you; only you can decide to listen. That's why it's pretty pointless trying to "spit it out" to someone in this thread - it has to come from within. This is as much as I want to say about that aspect, but it bears heavily on how FF KNOWS (without a shadow of doubt IMO) the situation regarding his treasure. And it explains why the eventual finder will be confident. There are many odd things happening in the world right now. I don't know if there is a connection to what we're engaged in, but I do believe that connections, links, passages - call 'em what you will - are what the Chase is all about. Thank you for the explanation. If you are alluding to a personal quest of sorts that we have each embarked on I think that is true. I'm just not sure how this theory would lead to an actual tangible object, the treasure chest, unless the treasure is to be awarded rather than found. Goldilocks, I think it's the only way to find the treasure chest. The poem helps us learn how to listen... |
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Post by fennzenn on Mar 15, 2020 17:18:29 GMT -5
All of the solutions above are just not practical. It is my opinion, that the secret on how you find the chest is the Pandora's box that ff speaks of, and that ff thinks the finder will not be able to keep it a secret; Hence a quick announcement. The longer it takes for the announcement of finding the chest, the stronger I feel if my opinion. One more possibility is that the finder just may want to keep a lid on Pandora's box for a time. Don't necessarily disagree in principal, but there are clips of Fenn flat out rejecting to give an answer to the direct question...would he turn down giving what appears to be an obvious and innocuous answer if it were as simple and straightforward as words to the effect of simply 'waiting for the finder to announce himself' in some way? We kind of already know that's a given and possibly inevitable at some point once found, but he pointedly rejected answering , as if he has another means of knowing. I could be wrong though, just my sense of it. |
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Post by brianu on Mar 15, 2020 17:50:36 GMT -5
Its been awhile since I've given this thought, but besides an ingenious wire tap on a phone, I'm voting telepathy. Yes good old fashioned mind reading, somewhere collecting Arrowhead, Fenn learned an ancient form of mind reading and will instantly know what and when the finder is thinkin the found thought.
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Post by edgewalker on Mar 15, 2020 19:44:56 GMT -5
Its been awhile since I've given this thought, but besides an ingenious wire tap on a phone, I'm voting telepathy. Yes good old fashioned mind reading, somewhere collecting Arrowhead, Fenn learned an ancient form of mind reading and will instantly know what and when the finder is thinkin the found thought. I am not nearly 90 and sometimes I can't even read my own mind. |
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Post by me9 on Apr 2, 2020 16:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by Jenny on Apr 3, 2020 7:27:59 GMT -5
....so the mystery continues.....lol... |
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) I believe it's worth thinking the unthinkable: that when FF says he feels almost umbilically attached, he really does mean it. There are a lot of people in the Chase who profess to believe in stories written thousands of years ago, but when confronted by things that are similarly inexplicable by conventional standards today, refuse to accept that just maybe we're witnessing something quite remarkable. Where is our curiosity? Where is our ability to adjust?
