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Post by brtlatjgt on Apr 1, 2020 21:42:57 GMT -5
21+4x4-50x6dividedbyitself+2X61-3x44+80X61add43plus12546dividedby 19less263466787Ifyoulookatthatfinalnumberonyourpho nedialitwillgiveahint aboutwherethetreasureisbutyouhaveonlya33%chanceofg ettingtherightanswerandIdon'tguaranteemyfigures. f
Order of operations?
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Post by van on Apr 2, 2020 6:35:43 GMT -5
Three possible answers and the calculation is irrelevant, most likely 0, which gives you an operator. The hint is to remove all spaces. IMO. This is a significant methodology hint, which I find to be true.
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Post by astree on Apr 2, 2020 7:27:09 GMT -5
. Is the final number on a phone dial a nine or zero? And there are normally letters associated with the digits on a phone dial but I don’t think X is in the final position. But three letters per digit and you need one of them which would give the 33%
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Post by gnossos on Apr 2, 2020 10:06:21 GMT -5
#
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Post by astree on Apr 2, 2020 10:22:15 GMT -5
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 2, 2020 10:28:10 GMT -5
dail
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 2, 2020 16:11:15 GMT -5
Much ado about nothing. He was messing with her. He said he wouldn't give anyone private hints and I hold him to that word.
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Post by thetruthisoutthere on Apr 2, 2020 16:18:35 GMT -5
Look at which states have both letters of their code on one number on the dial. They are CA, HI, MN, MO, NM, VT, UT and WY. Of those we're only interested in NM and WY. Since there are three letters on the 6 (MNO) the odds of getting the letters M and N in a random pick of two of those letters are one in three. On the 9 (WXYZ) the chance of getting W and Y is one in six since there is an extra letter in this group. So could this be a hint to what state? I played around with the equation given and there are so many ways to put the operations in order that I couldn't solve it with any confidence. But if this gives you a number on a phone dial and the odds are only 33% I think that NM could be one way to interpret this.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 2, 2020 20:53:08 GMT -5
21+4x4-50x6dividedbyitself+2X61-3x44+80X61add43plus12546dividedby 19less263466787Ifyoulookatthatfinalnumberonyourpho nedialitwillgiveahint aboutwherethetreasureisbutyouhaveonlya33%chanceofg ettingtherightanswerandIdon'tguaranteemyfigures. f Order of operations? Because of ambiguity about order of operations when parentheses are absent, there are far more than three possible outcomes for the expression, so Stephanie would not have a 33% chance of getting the right answer. But where does Forrest even say to compute it? It’s a trick. What he does say is "If you look at that final number on your phone dial it will give a hint about where the treasure is." One interpretation is that the "final number" is 7. But then how to interpret the 33% chance? Unlike most numbers on the phone, the 7 has 4 letters: PQRS, so if 7 was correct it couldn’t be a case of guessing the correct letter on that key.
However, Forrest writes "phone dial" not "phone keypad," and so he could be referring to the old rotary dial phones which lacked the Q. In that case Stephanie ~would~ have a 33% chance if the hint was one of the letters P, R or S. Still, it's hard to imagine that a single letter of the alphabet could act as any kind of helpful hint, even though one of these does actually work for my solution.
Another possibility is that the final number is “263466787” which has no ones or zeros, and therefore could spell a word or words on a phone keypad. For instance, one possibility is 263=AND, 46=IN, 67=OR, 87=UP, but that doesn’t seem very helpful, and again the odds of getting the intended message right are certainly less than 33%.
And the final possibility is that we're to ignore everything preceding "Ifyoulook..." and take the statement literally: the final number on a phone dial. Could be the zero, or on a phone pad could be the # ("number" sign). In either case, it's not apparent how your odds would be 33% of getting the right answer.
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Post by thetreasurehunter on Apr 3, 2020 12:00:17 GMT -5
If Forrest were to give a clue he thought was helpful, he would give it to all.
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Post by ironwill on Apr 3, 2020 17:44:54 GMT -5
21+4x4-50x6dividedbyitself+2X61-3x44+80X61add43plus12546dividedby 19less263466787Ifyoulookatthatfinalnumberonyourpho nedialitwillgiveahint aboutwherethetreasureisbutyouhaveonlya33%chanceofg ettingtherightanswerandIdon'tguaranteemyfigures. f Order of operations? can you find the link on Chase Chat where she posted it? I remember doing the operation and came up with 3 possible outcomes. I cannot say why its 33% chance, but there is a reason. I just never followed up and called. One of the numbers is in Texas, another in CA and I forget the third.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 3, 2020 17:46:05 GMT -5
If Forrest were to give a clue he thought was helpful, he would give it to all. But what about a clue that isn't helpful? ;-). And is it really a clue or hint if you have to already know the answer to appreciate it?
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Post by brtlatjgt on Apr 3, 2020 19:16:44 GMT -5
Sorry but don't have link. I saw it being discussed on Thor and copied it.
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Post by ironwill on Apr 5, 2020 9:38:45 GMT -5
Sorry but don't have link. I saw it being discussed on Thor and copied it. Its alright I found a similar link just for veracity. Okay I ran the operation like I did before. I would love for anyone to double check my calculations to make sure I did not misclick when using online calculator. What I did way back when Stephanie got this was follow Forrest's directions, not following math protocol. If that's what he intended then it looks like this... A=21+4x4-50x6 Then divide by A(itself) which gives you the answer of 1
so... 1+2x61-3x44+80x61+43+12546/19-263466787
If you just go from left to right without any order of mathematical operations...this ends up giving you... -263,440,440.2105263. I eliminated everything beyond the decimal giving you -263,440,440 . Pay close attention in the equation to the final underlined number that was subtracted. I believe all of the operations beforehand were just "FLUFF" and he used the last number subtraction to give him the intended answer he needed. Notice it is 9 digits. You would ask you self... but phone numbers are 10 digits so this doesn't work? Well it works, if you consider the the NEGATIVE SYMBOL as a VARIABLE NUMERAL much like X, Y, or Z. That then makes the phone number: (-26)-344-0440. Now, if you remember...Forrest told her there was only a 33% chance of being right? Well I believe he said that because if you go through the AREA CODE LIST available... www.bennetyee.org/ucsd-pages/area.htmlThere are only 3 area codes in U.S. and Canada that end in 26. They are... (226)- Windsor Canada (626)- Altadena California (726)-San Antonio Texas So if you look at that, there is your 1 in 3 chance of being right. The numbers are .... (226)-344-0440 Daniel Fanelli (did not find further info) (626)-344-0440 Lucas Janin Altadena California, Cinemagraphic designer, video editor (726)-344-0440 San Antonio TX, Unknown- Verizon could not complete the call. As I said this is just a possibility, and perhaps this was legit and the San Antonio number was a hint line if anyone figured it out. Possibly Forrest has now taken that number down. San Antonio is only 2 hours from where he was born and grew up.
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Post by locolobo on Apr 5, 2020 14:01:56 GMT -5
Sorry but don't have link. I saw it being discussed on Thor and copied it. Its alright I found a similar link just for veracity. Okay I ran the operation like I did before. I would love for anyone to double check my calculations to make sure I did not misclick when using online calculator. What I did way back when Stephanie got this was follow Forrest's directions, not following math protocol. If that's what he intended then it looks like this... A=21+4x4-50x6 Then divide by A(itself) which gives you the answer of 1
so... 1+2x61-3x44+80x61+43+12546/19-263466787
If you just go from left to right without any order of mathematical operations...this ends up giving you... -263,440,440.2105263. I eliminated everything beyond the decimal giving you -263,440,440 . Pay close attention in the equation to the final underlined number that was subtracted. I believe all of the operations beforehand were just "FLUFF" and he used the last number subtraction to give him the intended answer he needed. Notice it is 9 digits. You would ask you self... but phone numbers are 10 digits so this doesn't work? Well it works, if you consider the the NEGATIVE SYMBOL as a VARIABLE NUMERAL much like X, Y, or Z. That then makes the phone number: (-26)-344-0440. Now, if you remember...Forrest told her there was only a 33% chance of being right? Well I believe he said that because if you go through the AREA CODE LIST available... www.bennetyee.org/ucsd-pages/area.htmlThere are only 3 area codes in U.S. and Canada that end in 26. They are... (226)- Windsor Canada (626)- Altadena California (726)-San Antonio Texas So if you look at that, there is your 1 in 3 chance of being right. The numbers are .... (226)-344-0440 Daniel Fanelli (did not find further info) (626)-344-0440 Lucas Janin Altadena California, Cinemagraphic designer, video editor (726)-344-0440 San Antonio TX, Unknown- Verizon could not complete the call. As I said this is just a possibility, and perhaps this was legit and the San Antonio number was a hint line if anyone figured it out. Possibly Forrest has now taken that number down. San Antonio is only 2 hours from where he was born and grew up. hmmm.... "itwillgiveahintaboutwherethetreasureis"
Another San Antonio only 2 hours from where he is currently: San Antonio is an unincorporated community and census-designated place in Socorro County, New Mexico, United States, roughly in the center of the state, … en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio,_New_Mexico
Socorro: Spanish meaning "succour, help, relief, aid".
Would knowing the state where the treasure is be an "aid" to a searcher?
Nah, couldn't be.....or could it!!!
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