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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 14, 2020 1:56:51 GMT -5
If my memory serves me correctly, ff made a statement/remark somewhere, that was something like :" It was the worst thing I've ever done".
Does anybody remember, have a record of, or/and know where that statement can be found?
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Post by longfellow on Apr 14, 2020 10:17:32 GMT -5
If my memory serves me correctly, ff made a statement/remark somewhere, that was something like :" It was the worst thing I've ever done".
Does anybody remember, have a record of, or/and know where that statement can be found?
Excerpt below with relevant part bold and underlined. EEDS: What will you do to create more buzz, create more activity to keep people interested or get more people into it? FENN: Well you know, it’s out of my hands now really. When I hid that treasure chest, there was nobody around. And I was walking back to my car and I looked around and I started laughing. And I said out loud, Forrest Fenn did you really do that? And I started laughing. I thought it was the most atrocious thing that I’d ever done. But, in the back of my mind, I told myself that if I’m sorry tomorrow, I can go back and get the treasure chest. But the more I thought about it, I said, no I’m not going to do it. And I told myself it’s out of my hands now. I’m an interested bystander at this point. But I get between 100 and 120 emails every day from people that, most of them know where the treasure chest is. They just want me to confirm it. This one lady says, you know Mr. Fenn, I’m coming out there in my pickup truck but it’s not a very good truck anymore. If my truck breaks, will you pick me up and take me the rest of the way to the treasure? |
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Post by Bownarrow on Apr 15, 2020 1:59:05 GMT -5
If my memory serves me correctly, ff made a statement/remark somewhere, that was something like :" It was the worst thing I've ever done".
Does anybody remember, have a record of, or/and know where that statement can be found?
Excerpt below with relevant part bold and underlined. EEDS: What will you do to create more buzz, create more activity to keep people interested or get more people into it? FENN: Well you know, it’s out of my hands now really. When I hid that treasure chest, there was nobody around. And I was walking back to my car and I looked around and I started laughing. And I said out loud, Forrest Fenn did you really do that? And I started laughing. I thought it was the most atrocious thing that I’d ever done. But, in the back of my mind, I told myself that if I’m sorry tomorrow, I can go back and get the treasure chest. But the more I thought about it, I said, no I’m not going to do it. And I told myself it’s out of my hands now. I’m an interested bystander at this point. But I get between 100 and 120 emails every day from people that, most of them know where the treasure chest is. They just want me to confirm it. This one lady says, you know Mr. Fenn, I’m coming out there in my pickup truck but it’s not a very good truck anymore. If my truck breaks, will you pick me up and take me the rest of the way to the treasure? Thanks Longfellow.
The statment stuck with me. The combination of laughing and thinking it was the most atrocious thing that he'd ever done seemed, and stilll seems, strange. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 15, 2020 3:18:32 GMT -5
"Atrocious" ... or audacious?
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Post by astree on Apr 15, 2020 5:12:27 GMT -5
"Atrocious" ... or audacious? Audacious makes more sense. Unless he was being tricky, unless walking to his car was the ATROCIOUS thing, SO I CAR OUT. And that would only be part of it. I don’t think he could seriously consider going back and getting the treasure after working on the poem and building the contents of the chest for 15 years or so. Or maybe forest just wanted to see if people were paying attention to what he said and the words he used, just like he sometimes says blatantly incorrect things to see if people are paying attention and thinking about what he says |
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Post by engr101 on Apr 15, 2020 6:15:38 GMT -5
“But, in the back of my mind, I told myself that if I’m sorry tomorrow, I can go back and get the treasure chest.”
Does this statement imply that the chest is within a half day’s travel from his home?
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Post by longfellow on Apr 15, 2020 6:59:19 GMT -5
“But, in the back of my mind, I told myself that if I’m sorry tomorrow, I can go back and get the treasure chest.” Does this statement imply that the chest is within a half day’s travel from his home?
Not necessarily. He could have been staying in a rented cabin in Montana at the time.
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Post by engr101 on Apr 15, 2020 15:54:19 GMT -5
The logistic of an eighty year old man hauling 42 lbs. of a million dollar treasure on a two-to-three day trip from Santa Fe to Montana by himself seems to be a daunting task, all the while leaving a paper trail at every motel, gas station, and restaurant along the way. Then there is the rental agreement for that Montana rental cabin. The logistic becomes even more complicated if he decided to use public transportation for any portion of the trip (I can’t see him waiting in a baggage claim area wondering if his chest made the flight or “Riding the Dog” to Montana).
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Post by brianu on Apr 15, 2020 16:23:27 GMT -5
I think it's actually easy, and definitely Should have been easy peazy for Fenn because he has went there since one years old. He probably even has a homing beacon by now(like the hematite in birds beaks). 80 yrs old equals 80 trips times two (each way), plus he would know everyone up there.
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Post by brianu on Apr 15, 2020 16:29:08 GMT -5
And Forrest went on to later become an air Force pilot. I have used this as supporting data to confirm my migratory flying Fenn theory solve. New Mexico to Montana. Treasure Definitely in Montana.
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Post by longfellow on Apr 15, 2020 17:23:10 GMT -5
The logistic of an eighty year old man hauling 42 lbs. of a million dollar treasure on a two-to-three day trip from Santa Fe to Montana by himself seems to be a daunting task, all the while leaving a paper trail at every motel, gas station, and restaurant along the way. Then there is the rental agreement for that Montana rental cabin. The logistic becomes even more complicated if he decided to use public transportation for any portion of the trip (I can’t see him waiting in a baggage claim area wondering if his chest made the flight or “Riding the Dog” to Montana). It’s about a 1.5 hour flight From KSFE (Santa Fe, NM) to KWYS (West Yellowstone, MT) in a privately chartered jet, and it’s just one of the easy ways Forrest could get the chest and himself there without leaving a glaring trail to follow. He could have just rented an airplane a flown it there himself. |
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Post by engr101 on Apr 15, 2020 18:21:48 GMT -5
The logistic of an eighty year old man hauling 42 lbs. of a million dollar treasure on a two-to-three day trip from Santa Fe to Montana by himself seems to be a daunting task, all the while leaving a paper trail at every motel, gas station, and restaurant along the way. Then there is the rental agreement for that Montana rental cabin. The logistic becomes even more complicated if he decided to use public transportation for any portion of the trip (I can’t see him waiting in a baggage claim area wondering if his chest made the flight or “Riding the Dog” to Montana). It’s about a 1.5 hour flight From KSFE (Santa Fe, NM) to KWYS (West Yellowstone, MT) in a privately chartered jet, and it’s just one of the easy ways Forrest could get the chest and himself there without leaving a glaring trail to follow. He could have just rented an airplane a flown it there himself. Mr. Fenn did not have a pilot’s license or an airplane at the time he hid the chest. Yes, charting a private jet would be possible. The problem occurs when moving 42 lbs of treasure plus personal items from his car to the plane, and then from the plane to a rental car. When he arrives in West Yellowstone does he ask the charter pilot to watch his million dollar treasure while he goes rent a car? Does he make two trips from the plane to the car like he did when hiding the treasure? Does he take the treasure first and leave it in the car then go back to the plane and get the chest and leave that in the car then get his personal belongings? Then there is the paper trail problem. A charter jet or rental car leaves very detailed records. Mr. Fenn said “That’s why I’ve told people that I buried treasure, that I hid the treasure chest when I was either 79 or 80 years old because I don’t want the exact date to be known because I’m afraid someone will go check the rental car records and how many miles did Mr. Fenn put on the truck or the car, and so I don’t answer those kinds of questions.”
I believe he used his own vehicle.
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Post by longfellow on Apr 15, 2020 19:04:39 GMT -5
It’s about a 1.5 hour flight From KSFE (Santa Fe, NM) to KWYS (West Yellowstone, MT) in a privately chartered jet, and it’s just one of the easy ways Forrest could get the chest and himself there without leaving a glaring trail to follow. He could have just rented an airplane a flown it there himself. Mr. Fenn did not have a pilot’s license or an airplane at the time he hid the chest. Yes, charting a private jet would be possible. The problem occurs when moving 42 lbs of treasure plus personal items from his car to the plane, and then from the plane to a rental car. When he arrives in West Yellowstone does he ask the charter pilot to watch his million dollar treasure while he goes rent a car? Does he make two trips from the plane to the car like he did when hiding the treasure? Does he take the treasure first and leave it in the car then go back to the plane and get the chest and leave that in the car then get his personal belongings? Then there is the paper trail problem. A charter jet or rental car leaves very detailed records. Mr. Fenn said “That’s why I’ve told people that I buried treasure, that I hid the treasure chest when I was either 79 or 80 years old because I don’t want the exact date to be known because I’m afraid someone will go check the rental car records and how many miles did Mr. Fenn put on the truck or the car, and so I don’t answer those kinds of questions.”
I believe he used his own vehicle.
Why would he be afraid of someone going to check rental car records if he used his own vehicle? |
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Post by engr101 on Apr 15, 2020 20:51:31 GMT -5
Mr. Fenn did not have a pilot’s license or an airplane at the time he hid the chest. Yes, charting a private jet would be possible. The problem occurs when moving 42 lbs of treasure plus personal items from his car to the plane, and then from the plane to a rental car. When he arrives in West Yellowstone does he ask the charter pilot to watch his million dollar treasure while he goes rent a car? Does he make two trips from the plane to the car like he did when hiding the treasure? Does he take the treasure first and leave it in the car then go back to the plane and get the chest and leave that in the car then get his personal belongings? Then there is the paper trail problem. A charter jet or rental car leaves very detailed records. Mr. Fenn said “That’s why I’ve told people that I buried treasure, that I hid the treasure chest when I was either 79 or 80 years old because I don’t want the exact date to be known because I’m afraid someone will go check the rental car records and how many miles did Mr. Fenn put on the truck or the car, and so I don’t answer those kinds of questions.”
I believe he used his own vehicle.
Why would he be afraid of someone going to check rental car records if he used his own vehicle? Sorry I should have included the entire exchange.
"Was the car, you walked back to after hiding the treasure, rented? You know that’s the first time I’ve been asked that question. But, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve thought about that. That’s why I’ve told people that I buried treasure, that I hid the treasure chest when I was either 79 or 80 years old because I don’t want the exact date to be known because I’m afraid someone will go check the rental car records and how many miles did Mr. Fenn put on the truck or the car, and so I don’t answer those kinds of questions."
So does he not answer the question because he was worried someone would check rental records and find the dates he rented a car, or because someone would check the records and find he never rented a car?
Renting a car has other issues. Does he drive to the rental dealer and leave his car there while he drives the rental home to load the chest or does he call Enterprise and have them deliver a car to his home? In either case it would raise questions at home. Using his own car is so much easier to do and it fits in with his normal routine like visits to San Lazaro Pueblo Ruins that are only an hour’s drive from Santa Fe.
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Post by brianu on Apr 15, 2020 21:25:46 GMT -5
I think Rental record is way overboard for treasure hunting with a poem in a book. I have record searches ongoing for three hundred years or so old stuff, but a living man, an author family ect. Kinda Overkill and stalkerish has always been my thoughts. How it got there physically has nothing to do withe solving or extraction. He could've dropped it out of a plane for all that mattered, it still had to be solved, and the instructions were, poem and a map. Hopefully a mic drop one of these years on that.
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