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Post by fennzenn on Apr 25, 2020 13:59:16 GMT -5
Is there a full blown conversation about that, ...all I've found is sort of periphery reference to it, ....regardless, if it's true she in fact guessed correctly the first two clues , WWWH and the correct canyon and only had a map, I'm kind of thinking she either 1. got randomly and incredibly lucky....unlikey imo, or 2. used the most obvious example a child might think of , once they know about the rockies and it's most famous geologic features....like say, Old faithful in Yellowstone or something equally famous...Fenn himself has said it doesn't take specialized knowledge but it helps to know about geography some....
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Post by me9 on Apr 25, 2020 15:32:29 GMT -5
5Q) Your treasure hunt has inspired people worldwide to discover history, culture and nature, but many people, (even in the US) might be deterred because they don’t live near the Rockies or can’t afford to travel. Should they be deterred? Can a little girl in India, who speaks good English, but only has your poem and a map of the US Rocky Mountains, work out where the treasure is? And would she be confident as she solves each clue, or only confident when she has solved them all? I wish I had another treasure to hide in the Appalachians. The little girl in India cannot get closer than the first two clues. There are many disabled people who are deeply into maps and geography, and they are having a lot of fun. mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-treasure-resource-page-on-six-questions-with-forrest-fenn-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt/ |
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Post by me9 on Apr 25, 2020 15:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by miracleman on Apr 25, 2020 20:41:58 GMT -5
It’s not that she’s from India that stops her from getting past the first two clues...
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Post by fennzenn on Apr 25, 2020 21:21:26 GMT -5
5Q) Your treasure hunt has inspired people worldwide to discover history, culture and nature, but many people, (even in the US) might be deterred because they don’t live near the Rockies or can’t afford to travel. Should they be deterred? Can a little girl in India, who speaks good English, but only has your poem and a map of the US Rocky Mountains, work out where the treasure is? And would she be confident as she solves each clue, or only confident when she has solved them all? I wish I had another treasure to hide in the Appalachians. The little girl in India cannot get closer than the first two clues. There are many disabled people who are deeply into maps and geography, and they are having a lot of fun. mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-treasure-resource-page-on-six-questions-with-forrest-fenn-and-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt/Are you saying she was a hypothetical person for the sake of posing a question!? Wow did I have this all wrong then lol |
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Post by ironwill on Apr 25, 2020 21:53:36 GMT -5
I wish I had another treasure to hide in the Appalachians. The little girl in India cannot get closer than the first two clues. There are many disabled people who are deeply into maps and geography, and they are having a lot of fun.Are you saying she was a hypothetical person for the sake of posing a question!? Wow did I have this all wrong then lol Fennzenn, I'll share with you my opinion of this. First... clear your mind of all expectations. Good? Lets begin.... When you are looking in Google Maps at locations, you see all of the streets, mountains, and streams. But there are many that you won't see until you zoom in. These are canyons, draws, trails, etc. Now think about that for a moment in conjunction with what Forrest said. The little girl IN India cannot get CLOSER than the first two clues. Then he adds... disabled people who are deeply into maps. The girl is IN INDIA, and cannot get off her Country (per the premise of the subject)... therefore she must use google maps to get to the first two clues. But why only the first two? Because she had to ZOOM IN on Google maps to see them. Now, being in India, she cannot get any closer  She might be able to figure out many more clues and see them on the map, but she cannot get any closer, because she is zoomed all the way in. The disabled comment was of the same nature. Disabled people cannot get to the the treasure as Forrest has stated (person in a wheelchair cannot get to the treasure without help), so they sit at home looking DEEPLY INTO MAPS (ZOOMING IN) IMO, its all about imagination and perspective. Just something to think about. |
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 25, 2020 22:14:25 GMT -5
No IronWill: Little Indy cannot use Google Earth. That was not one of the tools specified in Jenny's question. Jenny used the word *ONLY* when describing what she had at her disposal. "Only" is a word of exclusion, and remember that Forrest has frequently taken people literally when they pose questions (e.g. Cynthia's "Can I ask a question?" followed by her question, to which Forrest complained/teased that that was two questions).
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Post by ironwill on Apr 25, 2020 22:21:03 GMT -5
No IronWill: Little Indy cannot use Google Earth. That was not one of the tools specified in Jenny's question. Jenny used the word *ONLY* when describing what she had at her disposal. "Only" is a word of exclusion, and remember that Forrest has frequently taken people literally when they pose questions (e.g. Cynthia's "Can I ask a question?" followed by her question, to which Forrest complained/teased that that was two questions). At this point, I must ask you Zap...would Google maps zoomed in on the Rocky Mountains, be considered ... a map of the US Rocky Mountains? |
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Post by harrytruman on Apr 25, 2020 23:09:56 GMT -5
Are you saying she was a hypothetical person for the sake of posing a question!? Wow did I have this all wrong then lol Here are some of my thoughts on the "little girl in India" (as Jenny originally phrased it, not the little girl "from" India): A little girl who is in India, someone who is in the Appalachians, and disabled people (or at least people with certain disabilities) cannot get physically closer than the first two clues. All of them can get deeply into maps and geography, but the main thing all of them have in common is that they cannot physically/literally "put in below the home of Brown." (For me, that's the third clue, and several pre-2016 searchers solved the first two clues but then "left the poem" when/because they didn't identify the home of Brown and thus failed to put in below it.) We know that "rocking chairs ideas" can lead a searcher to the first few clues. This means that the little girl in India, someone in the Appalachians, disabled people, and other searchers can get mentally closer than just the first two clues (and I'm assuming Forrest would have said "the first couple of clues" if he meant just the first two clues, an assumption based on the fact that Forrest has used "a couple" many times when referring to "two"). This fits with something else Forrest recently confirmed: the little girl in India can get mentally closer to identifying clues three through nine if she doesn't "let her thinking . . . get in a rut." This is one of many, many things that most searchers who discuss things publicly seem to misunderstand and misinterpret, in my opinion. . . . |
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 25, 2020 23:11:00 GMT -5
The ocean prevents her from retrieving chest. Lagerta the bold answered it.
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Post by zaphod73491 on Apr 26, 2020 0:42:17 GMT -5
No IronWill: Little Indy cannot use Google Earth. That was not one of the tools specified in Jenny's question. Jenny used the word *ONLY* when describing what she had at her disposal. "Only" is a word of exclusion, and remember that Forrest has frequently taken people literally when they pose questions (e.g. Cynthia's "Can I ask a question?" followed by her question, to which Forrest complained/teased that that was two questions). At this point, I must ask you Zap...would Google maps zoomed in on the Rocky Mountains, be considered ... a map of the US Rocky Mountains? No. A computer is not a map. A computer was not listed among Little Indy's allowed assets. She has the poem and *a* map of the US Rocky Mountains. One map. Of *all* the US Rocky Mountains. No phone, no PC. |
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Post by simpleson on Apr 26, 2020 6:26:13 GMT -5
Are you saying she was a hypothetical person for the sake of posing a question!? Wow did I have this all wrong then lol Here are some of my thoughts on the "little girl in India" (as Jenny originally phrased it, not the little girl "from" India): A little girl who is in India, someone who is in the Appalachians, and disabled people (or at least people with certain disabilities) cannot get physically closer than the first two clues. All of them can get deeply into maps and geography, but the main thing all of them have in common is that they cannot physically/literally "put in below the home of Brown." (For me, that's the third clue, and several pre-2016 searchers solved the first two clues but then "left the poem" when/because they didn't identify the home of Brown and thus failed to put in below it.) We know that "rocking chairs ideas" can lead a searcher to the first few clues. This means that the little girl in India, someone in the Appalachians, disabled people, and other searchers can get mentally closer than just the first two clues (and I'm assuming Forrest would have said "the first couple of clues" if he meant just the first two clues, an assumption based on the fact that Forrest has used "a couple" many times when referring to "two"). This fits with something else Forrest recently confirmed: the little girl in India can get mentally closer to identifying clues three through nine if she doesn't "let her thinking . . . get in a rut." This is one of many, many things that most searchers who discuss things publicly seem to misunderstand and misinterpret, in my opinion. . . . She can solve those first two clues with the poem and a map. Taking it in the canyon down is a road, IMHO, and on a map of the Rocky Mountains. From there is botg. She can't get closer. The poem IS THE MAP at that point and without being there she can't follow the map anymore. |
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Post by astree on Apr 26, 2020 9:48:32 GMT -5
The ocean prevents her from retrieving chest. Lagerta the bold answered it. If i recall correctly, forrest also said there were people in the u.s. who couldnt get past the first two clues, like the india girl. And talked about getting some good mileAGE out of his joke. |
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Post by fennzenn on Apr 26, 2020 16:30:50 GMT -5
Just so I'm clear then, there is/was no real girl in India? She was simply a hypothetical for a question?
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Post by goldilocks on Apr 26, 2020 16:42:37 GMT -5
Just so I'm clear then, there is/was no real girl in India? She was simply a hypothetical for a question? Yes Jenny made her up I believe. |
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She might be able to figure out many more clues and see them on the map, but she cannot get any closer, because she is zoomed all the way in. The disabled comment was of the same nature. Disabled people cannot get to the the treasure as Forrest has stated (person in a wheelchair cannot get to the treasure without help), so they sit at home looking DEEPLY INTO MAPS (ZOOMING IN) IMO, its all about imagination and perspective. Just something to think about.
