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Post by brianu on May 5, 2020 18:47:17 GMT -5
Eric Sloane did that once too! But all in the same, does it really matter what time! In my solve it made it easier with a perception of death, but all in the same the significance of time wasn't present, nor needed. In short, time is what we remember and that's the memory, not the date. I imagine the same ideology is part of the solve since were chasing fenns dreams as we persist to chase our own at the same time. Therefore time is not present nor significant if that makes any sense
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Post by brianu on May 5, 2020 18:49:43 GMT -5
I also add that the chase is pursuant for physical gold and stuff,...most gut theory's (explanations of all known science) accept that time is only imagined. Like numbers and math, they always equal zero!!
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Post by crm114 on May 5, 2020 20:17:11 GMT -5
I think Margie Goldsmith was the first to state that the conversation with Ralph Lauren was in 1996, but at the beginning of his Moby Dickens talk (2013), Forrest seems to indicate that the conversation was in 1988 -- around the time he had cancer, was selling his gallery, and various clients were coming to see him in his home. Forrest has stated numerous times that he acquired the chest in 1988. In her 2011 Huffington Post story, Goldsmith conveyed Forrest's original plan: "If it comes back, I'm going to grab a pocketful of sleeping pills, take a treasure chest filled with treasure and a copy of my bio; and I'm going to walk out into the desert. Sometime they'll find my bones and the treasure, but my bio will be inside the box, so at least they'll know who I was." That he stated "if it comes back" suggests to me that he firmed up this idea after his cancer was gone. That would mean 1993, and this original (1993) plan seems not to have included a poem. Doug Preston has stated that Forrest showed him the chest in his vault and explained his plan (including a poem) in "the early 1990s." If Forrest's repeated references to the "15 years" he worked on the poem are to be believed, and if he hid the chest in 2009 (which looks highly likely to me), and if he finished the poem in his mind before he hid the chest (“I could have written the poem before I hid the treasure chest, but I didn’t”), then he must have started working on the poem no later than 1994. For me, all of this suggests that he decided to write the poem and started doing so during the second half of 1993 or the first half of 1994 (which also means the conversation with Ralph Lauren couldn't have been as late as 1996). Thanks, Harry, great info. I either read Margie and forgot this or it never registered. I generally agree with your conclusions, but have heard several people make compelling cases he hid it in 2010: youtu.be/wDSpsOL1C3INevertheless, I give Forrest +/- 1 or 2 years when he says 15 years so 1994 could still be right and match with Doug Preston's statement. I agree the Ralph Lauren meeting is likely not 1996. I had completely forgot the desert story. That makes me wonder about the special spot in the mountains. Could he possibly have discovered the special spot after he got cancer and after he contemplated hiding it in the desert? If not, why consider the desert when he already had that spot in the mountains? |
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Post by crm114 on May 5, 2020 20:37:05 GMT -5
The start of the Hemispheres article: "BLAME RALPH LAUREN. In 1996 the designer paid a visit to his friend Forrest Fenn, who lived in Santa Fe, N.M. Fenn had recently undergone chemo and radiation for kidney cancer, and was told there was only a 20 percent chance for his survival. He sold his successful Santa Fe art gallery and settled in to await the inevitable." Note: "recently undergone" and "sold his successful Santa Fe art gallery". It is well established that both of these events occurred in 1988. Thanks, Zap. I get the impression the whole idea may have evolved over a few years, maybe in the late eighties, but more likely the early nineties. |
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Post by goldilocks on May 6, 2020 18:06:57 GMT -5
When he wrote the poem is probably less important then when he first went to his spot. Absolutely correct IMO... Q: When did you find this spot to bury the treasure like year? A: I have not said that I buried it, and I don’t want to reveal when I discovered the spot. It is too much of a clue. Q: When was the first time you went to the place where you hid the treasure? A: I don’t want to answer that question. It is more of a clue than I want to give. The "when" seems like it would answer the "where". I think the "when" would have to be a pretty specific time which would reveal the "where". |
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Post by me9 on May 7, 2020 9:17:33 GMT -5
Q. When you wrote the poem, did you start with the first clue or the ninth? A. ” I knew all along where I wanted to hide the treasure so I didn’t need a map or any information to write the poem. Everything was in my head. It took me a while to get the wording exactly how I wanted it. Counting the clues and hiding the chest came later. It is not likely that anyone will find it without following the clues, at least in their mind.” thefenndiagrams.com/q-a-with-fenn/fourth/ |
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Post by goldilocks on May 7, 2020 10:51:20 GMT -5
Q. When you wrote the poem, did you start with the first clue or the ninth? A. ” I knew all along where I wanted to hide the treasure so I didn’t need a map or any information to write the poem. Everything was in my head. It took me a while to get the wording exactly how I wanted it. Counting the clues and hiding the chest came later. It is not likely that anyone will find it without following the clues, at least in their mind.” thefenndiagrams.com/q-a-with-fenn/fourth/If you put the quotes above together it seems the when and where are connected. The significance of the day/date and the place seem to correspond in some way. |
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