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Post by Jenny on May 26, 2020 16:14:55 GMT -5
So most feel Meek is NOT a reference to a specific person, (like Joe Meek), but is an adjective..... to clue us in to what type of location the chest is hidden in..... Hi Jenny: grammatically it is still be used as a noun in the poem: "the meek" as opposed to (for example) "a meek person." Yes...I just worded the thought wrong... thanks |
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Post by woollybugger on May 28, 2020 14:45:43 GMT -5
Hi Jenny: grammatically it is still be used as a noun in the poem: "the meek" as opposed to (for example) "a meek person." Yes...I just worded the thought wrong... thanks I actually agree with your first statement Jenny, about it indeed serving as an adjective.
There are many instances of adjectives used without nouns that appear this way. When someone is talking about the rich or the poor, neither rich nor poor are nouns. So in the instance of "no place for the meek," it would make just as much sense to say "no place for the rich" where the noun is implied but rich still serves as an adjective. The reason I reject meek being reference to a person like Joe Meek, besides the capitalization piece, is referring to him as the meek just doesn't make sense. No one refers to people as 'the surname' singularly unless you were talking about his whole family, which would then be the Meeks.
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Post by flyjack on May 28, 2020 15:16:41 GMT -5
"no place for the meek" > "home of the brave" > James Madison > Madison River...
I'll be here all week, try the veal...
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Post by zaphod73491 on May 29, 2020 1:45:34 GMT -5
Yes...I just worded the thought wrong... thanks I actually agree with your first statement Jenny, about it indeed serving as an adjective.
There are many instances of adjectives used without nouns that appear this way. When someone is talking about the rich or the poor, neither rich nor poor are nouns. So in the instance of "no place for the meek," it would make just as much sense to say "no place for the rich" where the noun is implied but rich still serves as an adjective. The reason I reject meek being reference to a person like Joe Meek, besides the capitalization piece, is referring to him as the meek just doesn't make sense. No one refers to people as 'the surname' singularly unless you were talking about his whole family, which would then be the Meeks.
Hi Woolybugger: The rules for grammar are pretty clear, and when you preface a word like "meek" or "brave" or "rich" or "crazy" with the article "the," then what follows is transformed to a noun. You rightly point out that associating "the meek" with a singular person with that last name is not very sensible, grammatically. |
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Post by Jenny on Jun 5, 2020 7:30:08 GMT -5
Stanza 3 switches tenses from the commands issued to us in stanza 2 to a description of what is encountered beyond the home of Brown. I think these lines pair with the last two lines of the poem. Only the brave will go through "no place for the meek" to the chest. Forrest is daring us to cross the barrier preventing us from stumbling upon the chest. IMO. What type of barrier is this? Is it just 'heading off into the wood' without following a trail or is it something more substantial, like ignoring a fence or no trespassing sign? |
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